EPTWhy the division system is better than you think - Page 8
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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revy
United States1524 Posts
1) Bronze -> Plat small divisions, Diamond single big division 2) Keep small divisions across the board but also add a global ranking I like the idea of small divisions so I don't want to see them disappear but it would be nice to see where exactly I stand in the grand scheme of things. Oh and as for the OP, it only works if all divisions are iid (independent and identically distributed). As has been pointed out before this will not be the case unless the divisions are periodically "stirred" around (and I don't mean via resets I mean at random intervals players are transferred randomly between divisions). I don't like this random transfer idea, if I'm in a division I want that to be my division. | ||
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DC Elite
United States152 Posts
The problem isnt understanding the system, it is the system itself. Who cares if i make it to top 3% diamond. Say there are 1,000 diamond divisions, which means there are 100,000 diamond players, being in the top 3% puts me in a pool of 3,000 top players... BUT WHERE AM I IN RELATION TO THEM? I dont want to be one of 3,000, i want to be #1... or #97.... or have some way to know what i am. They simply need to have a bunch of servers again, maybe 16 since the game will be popular, and then some end of season official tournament with the top 2 or 4 from each server. | ||
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ltsmash
United States31 Posts
On July 13 2010 23:14 DC Elite wrote: I also still think the system sucks. Understanding how it works currently isnt difficult and if i have to read top x% one more time i'm going to break something. It doesnt take two posts, this one just being a compilation of the old one, to explain that rank 5 in silver means you are a top 5% silver player. Saying 8000000 times that you hope we understand what you are saying is patronizing. The problem isnt understanding the system, it is the system itself. Who cares if i make it to top 3% diamond. Say there are 1,000 diamond divisions, which means there are 100,000 diamond players, being in the top 3% puts me in a pool of 3,000 top players... BUT WHERE AM I IN RELATION TO THEM? I dont want to be one of 3,000, i want to be #1... or #97.... or have some way to know what i am. They simply need to have a bunch of servers again, maybe 16 since the game will be popular, and then some end of season official tournament with the top 2 or 4 from each server. Why could they not do this with the current league system? Every Division Leader would get to participate in the tournament, it would be a massive tournament, one fully backed by Blizzard and I could see nothing bad coming from this. | ||
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DC Elite
United States152 Posts
On July 13 2010 23:33 ltsmash wrote: Why could they not do this with the current league system? Every Division Leader would get to participate in the tournament, it would be a massive tournament, one fully backed by Blizzard and I could see nothing bad coming from this. I guess i think it would be clunky because divisions are opening all the time. When the game goes public there will be a ton of diamond divisions making the end of season tournament too large. What would be great would be if they upped each division from 100 to 1,000... or 10,000. One hundred is too small, all of us at some point has gotten to the top of our divisions, its too easy. If you had more in each division there would be less room for wondering how good you are doing. | ||
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
If Blizzard needs to manipulate the divisions to make sure the top players are not all in the same one, then the system is flawed. The system would only show an aproximation of the percentile, but even if that wasn't the case, knowing I am in the top 15 percent is LESS accurate than knowing I am number 1254 of 7589. Look, I can make a point in less than 1500 words without pretenting it's mathematical and I didn't even need a degree in statistics to do it! Sorry - I get a little carried away when stupidity is defended with such vigor. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
Just dont give a crap bout where you r placed etc etc as long as u get games vs people of your skill - if this works fine it is all cool i think cuz the real deal is tournaments anyhow and this ladder is just a simple way to get practice games if u dont ve a partner for cgs. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
I just hope pro league will be a stepping stone for something similar to that of top 100 on the entire server rather than just a smaller set of divisions. Because that is ultimately what having a ladder is about. I would rather have the top be a giant penis measure contest than to have the entire thing be no contest at all. That’s the whole reason why people want a ladder. SO YOU CAN SEE WHO THE FUCK IS ON TOP, how many games he has played, his win percentage against all matchups, or is it? While the current system is good for the majority it is not good for the fans or the pros themselves. Because if this is the ultimate ladder, and you have a set of practice buddies, what is the incentive to play on ladder outside of maintaining a position in this top league? Its like making champions league for the top % of all football teams but ultimately not let anyone but the teams themselves have a look at how the team is doing in relation to a few set of other teams who just happened to be placed in the same division. From the spectator point of view this sort of system is UTTERLY CRAP. now how is that for an argument? | ||
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