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CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
July 09 2010 18:31 GMT
#241
While blizzard does many questionable things. Was this actually a bad thing? Who cares about bnet forums? With less people posting their would be less trash anyway.
your micro has been depleted
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
July 09 2010 18:32 GMT
#242
On July 10 2010 03:23 Telcontar wrote:
dont you see they had no real intention to carry out this change? of course they knew it would be met with fervent opposition i mean who wants to lose anonymity on the internet? this was all a clever ruse to divert people's anger away from the broken thing that is bnet2.0 and focus it on something else. now by seemingly 'listening' to the community and reversing this, they seem like the good guys. please dont tell me you guys are buying this.

then again im not a world class cynic for nothing...



No this was just simply a really bad PR move. Most people would just remember the news statements claiming Blizzard was going to force people to use their real names and just ignore the game. By reversing their decision they just cut off any further losses.
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MelonPan
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium12 Posts
July 09 2010 18:32 GMT
#243
They've been ruining their reputation in a matter of months which took them more than 10 years to build.

- no Lan
- no Cross Region Play
- no Chat Channels (only semi confirmed that it will have some sort of chat)
- in-game ADS? (they got a deal with the Microsoft owned AD agency)
- Facebook integration - almost no one cares
- Real ID - security issues, leaks have been made already, more will follow,
if they can hack creditcards, hardware, online banking, they can very easily
hack this
- what else did I forget?
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
July 09 2010 18:33 GMT
#244
On July 10 2010 03:31 CagedMind wrote:
While blizzard does many questionable things. Was this actually a bad thing? Who cares about bnet forums? With less people posting their would be less trash anyway.


Bnet forums is where Blizzard gets most of their information from their customers. They'd rather get that information from their forums than having to look for it at TL.net or other fan forums.
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Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 18:37:24
July 09 2010 18:36 GMT
#245
On July 10 2010 03:23 Telcontar wrote:
dont you see they had no real intention to carry out this change? of course they knew it would be met with fervent opposition i mean who wants to lose anonymity on the internet? this was all a clever ruse to divert people's anger away from the broken thing that is bnet2.0 and focus it on something else. now by seemingly 'listening' to the community and reversing this, they seem like the good guys. please dont tell me you guys are buying this.

then again im not a world class cynic for nothing...

I think this sounds like a plausible (although maybe not neccessarily likely) possibility. It does seem Blizzard has done that with all of the features in BNET 2.0. People complained about Identifiers, so they made an even worse system with non-unique usernames, so that when they converted back to Identifiers, everyone was happy. They didn't include chat rooms so that when they finally said they will include chat rooms some time after release, everyone will be happy (as opposed to it should have had chat rooms to begin with).

It is hard to believe that they would have even thought of using a real name identifier system since that would have so many negative impacts on their image, especially if someone used it to murder or harass someone or something like that and it became popular in the media. Although I guess it is possible they didn't think of that and then they finally realized that they could potentially be helping out criminals and so they decided to cancel it.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 09 2010 18:36 GMT
#246
On July 10 2010 03:31 CagedMind wrote:
While blizzard does many questionable things. Was this actually a bad thing? Who cares about bnet forums? With less people posting their would be less trash anyway.

I'm no expert, but I think most of the uproar was from WoW fans who really do use the B.Net forums to communicate. Also there was the case that if the SC2 B.Net forums were ever going to take off, this Real ID thing would have to go. And perhaps Blizzard will really make an effort to keep B.Net forums clean for SC2. They must care to some extent about their own forums.
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shiftY803
Profile Joined April 2010
200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 18:41:06
July 09 2010 18:40 GMT
#247
On July 10 2010 02:08 PokePill wrote:
The entire thing was a ploy for media attention, you guys didn't "win."


Hold on while I dig out my tin foil hat. Let's keep a lid on the crazy, please.


In seriousness, people - females in particular - had alot to be fearful of had they gone ahead with this real name business. I don't think Blizz quite thought it through the way they should have, or this never would have been proposed. Even companies like Blizz make absolute blunders now and then - this is one of them.

This post pretty much sums up what was so wrong with the idea. I like her idea of associating any post with ALL characters on a WoW account to prevent trolling on a Level 1 alt.

http://www.metafilter.com/93492/But-my-name-really-is-Deathblood-Blackaxe#3171416
live without appeal. ~ camus
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 18:41:18
July 09 2010 18:40 GMT
#248
And there's the pitch...Blizzard swings.....it's going...it'S GOING....IT'S GONE!!!!! (No swing and miss this time)

Anyways, this is a smart move by Blizz (even though the switch probably wouldn't have made a huge impact towards sales...HOWEVER, it would've feedback-wise). Probably the harass that the one admin got was one reason why they made this move, but there were also a bunch more obviously (huge thread by TL!)

Good move, and this will definitely help them improve their games via feedback through the forums.
Now if they could just bring up the EU, Asia servers from my friends not living in the US!

+OP, your picture in this tread is AWESOME.
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Serotonin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States5 Posts
July 09 2010 18:44 GMT
#249
Decision was pushed by Activision and I guess Mike Morhaime shut it down!
"We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - Al Gore, VP
MelonPan
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium12 Posts
July 09 2010 18:47 GMT
#250
Kinda funny that in the PR it mentions cross-game and cross-realm chat yet cross-realm play is nowhere to be seen.
Ababoba
Profile Joined March 2010
Finland11 Posts
July 09 2010 18:48 GMT
#251
Good good! Blizzard shows they still listen to the community!
Arcalious
Profile Joined March 2010
United States213 Posts
July 09 2010 18:51 GMT
#252
I'm not surprised at all. This was a privacy lawsuit waiting to happen.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 09 2010 18:53 GMT
#253
On July 10 2010 03:51 Arcalious wrote:
I'm not surprised at all. This was a privacy lawsuit waiting to happen.

How? You'd have to opt in to the Real ID-enabled forum, and I'm sure there would be a massive ToS that included an agreement to consent to use of your real name.
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Santriell
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium151 Posts
July 09 2010 18:54 GMT
#254
Igne Vatura Renovatur Integra...

Suck it blizz.
By the clack smack cracking of my thumbs, something wicked this may comes.
DiTH
Profile Joined March 2010
Greece116 Posts
July 09 2010 18:56 GMT
#255
In the end on thing is certain.
As much as we spam blizzard its the Internet community that is not yet mature to handle real names.This will happen eventually in the future though.
Rider
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands127 Posts
July 09 2010 18:57 GMT
#256
Good job Blizzard! Awesome news!
My grandpa could've proxied better. And not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead.
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
July 09 2010 18:59 GMT
#257
On July 10 2010 03:53 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 03:51 Arcalious wrote:
I'm not surprised at all. This was a privacy lawsuit waiting to happen.

How? You'd have to opt in to the Real ID-enabled forum, and I'm sure there would be a massive ToS that included an agreement to consent to use of your real name.

ToS != Law. They can write in their ToS whatever they want it does not make it a law =).
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scBane
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands35 Posts
July 09 2010 19:00 GMT
#258
Good that they listen to the community on big changes like this.

As for all the cynics, this would have affected WoW alot more than SC2, so this being a ´pr stunt´ is really farfetched. If anything this is costing them sc2 copies cause I doubt all media is gonna rectify that they are not gonna go through with this change now.
Wigz
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada42 Posts
July 09 2010 19:02 GMT
#259
Hell, it's about time!
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
July 09 2010 19:03 GMT
#260
On July 10 2010 03:59 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2010 03:53 JWD wrote:
On July 10 2010 03:51 Arcalious wrote:
I'm not surprised at all. This was a privacy lawsuit waiting to happen.

How? You'd have to opt in to the Real ID-enabled forum, and I'm sure there would be a massive ToS that included an agreement to consent to use of your real name.

ToS != Law. They can write in their ToS whatever they want it does not make it a law =).

It would be illegal if they just gave out your name. you wouldnt be allowed to post on the forums unless you gave them consent to post your name

it was fine and legal, but it doesnt matter because it got reversed so lets not start up the same arguments as in the other 200 page thread.

It doesnt matter anymore
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
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