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Hello, l am new to Team Liquid, and posting here,
Never the less i have been experiencing some technical problems with my CPU and its usage. When I play Starcraft 2 it hogs about 70% of the CPU cycle, and maybe more and just makes for slow game play. which can be very annoying.
I was just wondering what solutions can you guys offer to fix this. Also sometimes when i watch YouTube CPU usage also shoots to 100%. I've tried the svchost.exe thin, that wasn't the problem. Out of the game I look at the processes and there is no high CPU Using program, and sometimes its Google Chrome, and sometimes its a new program all the time.
If your as confused as I am with the above ^. Then I don't know.....
System Specs
Intel(R)Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80 GHz Over clocked at 3.15GHz
Ram: 2.0 GB
HD: 300Gb
VGA Nvidia 7600GT(i hate it)
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I think you might just have an outdated processor. Pentium 4 single cores are stone age technology
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but it never used to happen before. but what i have to buy a whole new mobo to get dual core
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ugrades is the solution.. need at least a dual core processor and more ram... new graphics card wouldnt hurt at all either.
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It is supposed to use all your CPU. The game renders frames as fast as the system will allow for the best experience. If it is too slow try disabling running services or upgrading your hardware.
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On July 03 2010 12:18 Millsington wrote:
It is supposed to use all your CPU. The game renders frames as fast as the system will allow for the best experience. If it is too slow try disabling running services or upgrading your hardware.
okay but what about out of game just a while ago i was watching youtube and it sky rocketed,
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i'm no expert at all but the overclock might be causing the problem, haha
but that's the slightest chance there is,since you've been using it day-in, day-out for a whilei 'm guessing.
i think you'll have to think of a hyper threaded upgrade, i3, i5, i7 (lower series) are all really cheap.
there was this bundle with the i3 (i'm using one btw) with a fine motherboard for 220 US
i hate to be critical but your video card is pretty old now too, does it support shaders 2.0 ?
id on't think there's anything software related, but you can give formatting a try
slow gameplay is nothing out of the ordinary for newer games and somewhat old systems
unelss you played sc2 fine before ?
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just a question about youtube.. were you trying to watch in HD.. cause with that old gpu and little ram it would sky rocket.
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On July 03 2010 12:24 ADeZ wrote:
just a question about youtube.. were you trying to watch in HD.. cause with that old gpu and little ram it would sky rocket.
no the the setting under 480p
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well it is possible you have some malware.. have you tried formating?
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On July 03 2010 12:28 ADeZ wrote:
well it is possible you have some malware.. have you tried formating?
im going to when i get my hands on that vista CD
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ugh... vista.. such a pig
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sorry to be an ass here but....
if you're going to format, i'd reaelly... really suggest jsut getting a new processory u _ u
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Dude P4's are like, completely outdated. They're well known for having some of the worst performance of all time.
Get yourself a cheap AM3 mobo, 4gb of ddr3 and Athlon II x2, for like $200 you'll be able to play with no lag whatsoever.
You also need to upgrade your video card. There are hundreds of choices so i won't pick one for you.
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On July 03 2010 12:36 nanaoei wrote:
sorry to be an ass here but....
if you're going to format, i'd reaelly... really suggest jsut getting a new processory u _ u
mabie i should just buy a new computer because like previously posted sing CPU are outdated
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On July 03 2010 12:40 freshiie22 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 12:36 nanaoei wrote:
sorry to be an ass here but....
if you're going to format, i'd reaelly... really suggest jsut getting a new processory u _ u mabie i should just buy a new computer because like previously posted sing CPU are outdated
Yes. Its time for an upgrade.
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You need to get a new computer, because to upgrade all of these things will cost more.
Really just get a new computer or make your own from newegg parts. The cheapest option is to make a new computer yourself which is easy and will only take a maybe 2 hours at most, but it will be a longer wait.
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On July 03 2010 12:50 Twinweapon wrote:
You need to get a new computer, because to upgrade all of these things will cost more.
Really just get a new computer or make your own from newegg parts. The cheapest option is to make a new computer yourself which is easy and will only take a maybe 2 hours at most, but it will be a longer wait.
Building a computer > more efficient than store bought.
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I have a quad core, and it eats up probably 70% (maybe 50, i don't remember...think it's 70)...but meh...just don't run anything else w/ it b/c it's not like you're going to be doing anything else while you play a game.
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On July 03 2010 12:55 EliteAzn wrote:
I have a quad core, and it eats up probably 70% (maybe 50, i don't remember...think it's 70)...but meh...just don't run anything else w/ it b/c it's not like you're going to be doing anything else while you play a game.
but the added cpu usage makes the game laggy
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On July 03 2010 12:57 freshiie22 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 12:55 EliteAzn wrote:
I have a quad core, and it eats up probably 70% (maybe 50, i don't remember...think it's 70)...but meh...just don't run anything else w/ it b/c it's not like you're going to be doing anything else while you play a game. but the added cpu usage makes the game laggy
True...the thing with my desktop is that it has that pause problem (that some others are having). Might be a problem w/ our end of deal, but maybe phase 2's hardware/software update will smooth things out.
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I would also guess that the beta isn't optimized yet. I've heard that WoW beta was same way -- took up a lot more resources in beta than it did after release.
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On July 03 2010 13:04 MadduX wrote:
I would also guess that the beta isn't optimized yet. I've heard that WoW beta was same way -- took up a lot more resources in beta than it did after release.
I hope you're right. That patch 13 (I think it was 13...you guys know which one) messed everything up, but I thought they cleaned it up nicely after a week. What I'm worried about is after this hard/software update, it may be messy for the first week again...
*crosses fingers w/ confidence*
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On July 03 2010 12:57 freshiie22 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 12:55 EliteAzn wrote:
I have a quad core, and it eats up probably 70% (maybe 50, i don't remember...think it's 70)...but meh...just don't run anything else w/ it b/c it's not like you're going to be doing anything else while you play a game. but the added cpu usage makes the game laggy
i dont understand. any quad core should be fine, hell, i think most dual cores 2ghz + will be fine depending on the settings/resolution.
Im pretty sure that the p4 wont cut it no matter what you do.
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highly recommend formatting
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On July 03 2010 13:08 gEzUS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 12:57 freshiie22 wrote:On July 03 2010 12:55 EliteAzn wrote:
I have a quad core, and it eats up probably 70% (maybe 50, i don't remember...think it's 70)...but meh...just don't run anything else w/ it b/c it's not like you're going to be doing anything else while you play a game. but the added cpu usage makes the game laggy i dont understand. any quad core should be fine, hell, i think most dual cores 2ghz + will be fine depending on the settings/resolution. Im pretty sure that the p4 wont cut it no matter what you do.
It is fine...but I don't think SC2 actually utilizes all 4 cores. It's just the pausing (for the beginning of the first game and just random times) that annoys me....but oh well, SC2 is still one hell of a game.
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you playing against AI?
some of the AI's are crazy on CPU.
also the beta still has some crash/freeze bugs
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On July 03 2010 13:25 bulge wrote:
you playing against AI?
some of the AI's are crazy on CPU.
also the beta still has some crash/freeze bugs
well i am playing the sc2allin1 with greatea AI
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I've got some problems when there are more than 400(2v2 + matches) units on screen.My pc starts to crawl,the game becomes very choppy. I've got an ati 4850 and a 4200+ amdX2. I'm thinking it's my processor thats causing the problem(it's about 3 years old now). Or is it my graphics card choking on all the units(cause I heard sc2 was designed to stress gfx cards more than the cpu)? Dont want to upgrade one and find out that the other component was causing the problem..thanks guys.
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On July 03 2010 13:35 dartoo wrote:
I've got some problems when there are more than 400(2v2 + matches) units on screen.My pc starts to crawl,the game becomes very choppy. I've got an ati 4850 and a 4200+ amdX2. I'm thinking it's my processor thats causing the problem(it's about 3 years old now). Or is it my graphics card choking on all the units(cause I heard sc2 was designed to stress gfx cards more than the cpu)? Dont want to upgrade one and find out that the other component was causing the problem..thanks guys.
some graphics settings affect the cpu more than the gfx and reverse, try increasing cpu intensive settings and see if performance worsens more than if you increase gpu intensive settings.
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Upgrade the CPU and video card should do. However you need to check your motherboard before you do incase of any changes.
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Can we start calling it CPUsage?
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On July 03 2010 12:39 ghermination wrote:
They're well known for having some of the worst performance of all time.
Then how come 2 of my computers running pentium 4s 64b @ 3.6gz are still perfectly fine for todays games ?
1337 upgraede for teh lazy computah illiterates much ?
Dual cores are only now getting "somewhat" used to their true potential... Nevermind a quad that will probably be just a dual until 2-3 years from now. But if it makes you feel important whatever ....
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Adobe flash is a real CPU hog now, I've noticed. If you watch youtube videos (especially at fullscreen if you have a high resolution display), and livestream, it can quite easily bring CPU usage to 100% for older CPUs. Even many flash games bring CPU usage to 100%.
On July 03 2010 14:49 Santriell wrote:
Dual cores are only now getting "somewhat" used to their true potential... Nevermind a quad that will probably be just a dual until 2-3 years from now. But if it makes you feel important whatever ....
1. CPUs aren't only used for gaming. Even with Windows Vista Quad cores could be used to more efficiently run programs and operating system, let alone all the newer programs and versions of programs (and operating systems) that have come out since then. Many many games have had quad core performance boosts for a long time now too. Blizzard doesn't because they take a longer timeframe to develop their games, and do not have the time to completely revamp their game engine any time that sort of thing happens.
2. Even if game were just getting dual core advantages now (which would be a joke, since even quad cores started quite a while back), it doesn't mean that games that use quads won't be out in 3-4 years. Many people Keep their PCs for 3-6 years before getting a new one, so getting a quad now (or in the past) is an investment one can make so they don't have as much of a need to upgrade again 1 or 2 years later.
Lastly, if you have something like a pentium 4 Extreme edition that is overclocked, it's obviously going to perform better than this guys 3.15 Ghz CPU.
Even then, I can guarantee that CPU is not good enough to be running all PC games at decent settings. It also would not be optimal for operating system and programs. Sure you can run games on it, but it doesn't mean Gaming (or especially non-gaming) performance is even close to optimal.
That said, the dude that said P4s were crap is a complete idiot. For their time P4s were powerful, and generally gave better performance than AMD's similar CPUs(although at a higher price point).
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Xapti P4s are generally considered one of the worst CPUs. Athlon 64s at 2ghz would absolutely demolish Pentium 4s at 2.8ghz -_-
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Time for an upgrade.
My computer is pretty new but I'm still afraid of what would happen if I were to play a 4v4 game with everyone at max supply. I'm running 1920x1080 (24" widescreen) with everything on ultra.
New specs:
AMD Phenom X4 965 BE @3.4ghz
ATi Radeon 5850 1GB Black Edition @ 765/4500
MSI 790FX-GD70
8GB G.Skill Ram
I would lag in a 1v1 max food battle with everything on ultra running at 1280x1024 (19") with my old rig. There was no way to play 2v2 unless I drop the settings down to medium.
Old specs:
AMD Athlon X2 3800+ @ 2.0ghz
Nvidia Geforce 512MB 9800GTX+
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
4GB OCZ Ram
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I would check the heat if I were you. Based on the fact that your system is old, heat can be a very big problem. I used to have a problem with youtube on my old computer because bad heat dissipation.
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SC2 is CPU bottlenecked more than most games. It may not push the most poly's but it has to calculate a ton of stuff when there are a lot of units on screen. Thus the demand on CPU and poor performance.
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freshiie22,
Please use the program located at this link:
CPU Z
And kindly take a screenshot of what it says your motherboard is. It should be the first tab of the program when you run it. If you cannot provide a screen shot please provide a model name/number for your motherboard. This way members of the community can determine the most efficient upgrade for you.
For the future, there is a computer help blog that I maintain in the blog section of the forums. A shortened link to it can be located in my signature of this post.
The reason it's a good idea in this case to post the motherboard and the motherboard socket number, is because if the socket is 775, there is a relatively cheap way about bumping up from single core to dual core. If it is older than a socket 775 model, you will have to purchase a new motherboard and processor to make progress.
The 775 socket is one of, if not only, the sockets that supports a single core through a quad core processor.
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