EPTI've started using my left hand for my mouse as frequently as possible, but it still hurts. Am I just adjusting to a much bigger mouse after 4 years of a tiny little thing in my hand, or should I be more concerned?
Wrist pain due to new mouse?
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Rhyme
United States1069 Posts
I've started using my left hand for my mouse as frequently as possible, but it still hurts. Am I just adjusting to a much bigger mouse after 4 years of a tiny little thing in my hand, or should I be more concerned? | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
anyways pain associated with a new mouse is generally not good. there are muliple different factors that could cause it but seeing is how it seems to be specifically in the wrist i suggest looking for a mouse wrist cushion. a couple follow up questions though. how old are you? have you increased your play time more than usual? do you notice differences in mouse sensitivity between the two? | ||
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
Take the DPI you're using, cut it in half, turn the sensitivity to 9 or so in the razer drivers. I'm using a Razer Deathadder 3500 DPI mouse @ 900 dpi with sensitivity proped at 10. Now keep tweaking it like this until you get that "sweet spot" I have my in-game sensitivity set at 65-70 if I could remember correctly. I actually WANTED to try playing on high 3500, but I couldn't do it at all. I then started playing at 1800 dpi thinking that I would just get used to it. Most people told me that they play on high dpi like 3500 and they just got used to it, but I never did. It really hurt my game a lot, I felt like I was doing much worse than I did before. But still, don't do what I did and play for 2 months like that....it really held me back. Anyway have fun using your new mouse! It really is a trip to be able to move quite more effectively around the screen, but don't put too much tension in your hand. After one game only my hand would ache so bad, but after I diagnosed and figured out the problem, I played for about 28 hours straight when the beta was going down no problem. Rest your hand for an hour or so before you try and play around with this though.  | ||
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Rhyme
United States1069 Posts
Legendary - That sounds like a pretty reasonable explanation of the pain. I'm sure the mouse I used (free with my computer...) had like 9 DPI, and this thing has an obscene amount. I'll lower the dpi and see how it feels. | ||
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Canada573 Posts
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Belegorm
United States330 Posts
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
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Atlare
Australia893 Posts
On June 30 2010 10:21 Rhyme wrote: I just got a new mouse (going from basic optical mouse 1.0A to Razer Mamba) and I'm starting to experience wrist soreness. This mouse is considerably bigger than my previous mouse, where my pinky and ring finger would drag on the mousepad. Initially it felt a lot more comfortable, but after a week or two I'm beginning to notice pain after a couple hours of use. I've started using my left hand for my mouse as frequently as possible, but it still hurts. Am I just adjusting to a much bigger mouse after 4 years of a tiny little thing in my hand, or should I be more concerned? It could definitely be you're hands as well, i have big hands and i currently use the razer mamba, it fits my hand to the cm (if you match it up its perfect symetry). If you've being using smaller mouses maybe you should be using them still, IMO take yours back and get the Razer naga, same sort of feel, but its ALOT smaller. I won't go on about its keypad since thats not really a big deal, the mouse itself doesnt get enough credit. | ||
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HelloSon
United States456 Posts
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
If your posture isn't the problem, I'd recommend taking frequent breaks and avoid activities that require precise motion of your fingers or wrists. If you play a sport like handball or lacrosse and can't avoid it, tape your wrist with athletic tape or buy a brace. It also helps me if I put small strips of athletic tape around my first two fingers between the joints. Getting a brace etc. is probably a bit excessive, but I get some severe CTS from playing bass guitar/lacrosse on top of gaming, so I go a little overboard. Hopefully some of this helps you out. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2010 10:23 Bosu wrote: It definitely could be the mouse. I had had pretty bad hand/wrist pain when I used a copperhead. When it died and I got a mx518 the pain went away in a couple weeks. The mx518 is pretty big though, but the way I hold the mouse feels much better on my hand. I have been thinking about getting a salmosa though. Looks smaller then mx518 and shaped in a way I prefer to a copperhead. Off-topic, but I just recently got a salmosa pro-gaming edition (smaller size) and it's been great. The buttons have a really comfortable shape. If you like very small mice I'd recommend it. | ||
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Issor
United States870 Posts
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vek
Australia936 Posts
I also had a Razer "gaming" keyboard that died about 4 months after i bought it. Even when it was working it sucked because input would freeze with certain key combinations... not really what you expect for a $120 keyboard. Razer is just cheap, nasty and poorly designed. You pay for the packaging and the name and that is all you get. I would use Genius, Logitech, Microsoft or generic $2 mice in that order over any Razer mouse. I will never fall for the Razer marketing trap again. They simply do not make good products. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
Canada1992 Posts
On June 30 2010 10:28 Legendary- wrote: I had this problem earlier and blogged about it. Your DPI setting is much too high than you are used to and same with the sensitivity. Your hand is trying to adjust to the speed, but it tenses up because you arent used to it. Like you I was using a pretty low-end mouse (it was actually a regular mini notebook logitech mouse, corded, and was a pos) to play SC2, but I changed up afterwards.... [1] Take the DPI you're using, cut it in half [2] Most people told me that they play on high dpi like 3500 and they just got used to it, but I never did. [3] Excellent post. [1] This is very likely your problem, but it doesn't have much to do with being used to the higher DPI or not. Human hands aren't capable of long-term millimeter precision when it comes to using mice. Long periods of overly high DPI usage will cause your hands to ache so badly because you are using far too many extra muscles to over- and under-compensate for the rapid cursor speed. Turn the DPI down and you'll no longer have to compensate for a too-speedy cursor with small or awkward muscle movements. The mouse should "just work" and feel good and precise. You should really expect a mouse to be an extension of your hand/brain and not some tool that you are moving around. [2] Super-good advice. Just chop your DPI too low then slowly adjust upwards. Don't use the Windows slider (it should always be at 6/11 to prevent interference with your mouse software). Use the Razer drivers to set mouse sensitivity up or down. [3] Anyone that actually says this is insane. 3500 DPI would be good if your screen was like 40", but for a ~20 inch monitor, any more than 2000 is just unusable. I'm on a 22" monitor and use ~1500 DPI, and that's on the high end. A good rule of thumb (especially for RTS play) is that you should be able to plant your wristbone and move across the entire screen without moving your arm (only using your wrist/finger movements). That's a high DPI setup. /edit - Forgot to mention this: you know your DPI is too high when you have soreness in the following: a. Thumb b. Third finger (ring finger). c. Fourth finger (pinky). d. Middle of your palm. Any three (or more) of those is pretty much a guarantee that your DPI is set too high. | ||
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matt09
United States21 Posts
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
while you're at it in the mouse settings unchecking the "enhance pointer precision" box wouldn't hurt in the long run 99 times out of a 100. Also positioning your mousehand further onto the table might help if you have the common wrist slouching off the edge of the table posture, make it so that your lower arm or even elbow provides support. | ||
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Rhyme
United States1069 Posts
/edit - Forgot to mention this: you know your DPI is too high when you have soreness in the following: a. Thumb b. Third finger (ring finger). c. Fourth finger (pinky). d. Middle of your palm. Any three (or more) of those is pretty much a guarantee that your DPI is set too high. I'm sore in all of those places! I hope it really is as simple a fix as lowering my DPI. | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On June 30 2010 12:11 Rhyme wrote: I've got all mouse accel disabled, and slider on 6. I've been tweaking my sensitivities/DPI for awhile and through all the posts I've read I never once encountered anything about discomfort at higher DPI. I'm sore in all of those places! I hope it really is as simple a fix as lowering my DPI. if you were using a crappy mouse it was surely not using more than 400dpi, why switch up unless you have some very high 4 digit resolutions going on along with high sens. For 95%+ of cases it only works as a sensitivity boost anyways since you wouldn't come close to skipping pixels ever even at 200dpi (and if you are using high enough sens for that to happen you're not going to be pixel accurate anyways, maybe 10square-pixel accurate on a good day). | ||
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
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Jettster
United States73 Posts
Edit: Nvm, apparently that's the DPI that I can change. | ||
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