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Starcraft 2 will be FREE for WoW players in Korea

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caseeker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 16:25:17
June 24 2010 07:00 GMT
#1
The blizzard had media day for starcraft 2 today, and they have announced few things.

1. Starcraft 2 will be free for WOW players. While you have the wow subscription on the battle.net account, you can just play starcraft 2 for free. (so its not wow subscription anymore, its battle.net 2.0 subscription)

2. There will be no package for Starcraft 2, Blizzard will only sell digital download copy. the price will be around $59

3. If you don't want to buy package, you can also buy Starcraft 2 subscription, one day subscription will be about $2 and one month will be $10

4. There won't be Adult version (if you didn't know, they cut all the scenes and made it teen version)

5. There won't be collector's edition

*Edited* 6. There will be open beta "after" release date. (so weird, I don't think they can call it open "beta")

What do you guys think? I feel sorry for Korean. Well wow players will love this policy

So many people wanted blizzard to announce the collectors edition for Korea today.. now blizzard took out the regular package from them.. Seriously, digital download sucks..
I know that package market is dead in Korea, but I also know that many people would still buy blizzard's game.

There was no announcement for "pro version with lan" thing or plan for starcraft 2 league.

*for people who couldn't pre-order collectors edition yet, walmart and bestbuy still have collectors edition.

original post

This is my blog that I just made few days ago, I will upload some strategy guide and stuff as well please visit sometimes

*Edited* people are complaining about 2 things
1. no package
2. no CE
Of course these are bad things for fans, so stop posting those "why people complaining?" posts :p
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
June 24 2010 06:32 GMT
#2
So, less private playing at home and more PC Bang players?
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
Yuma
Profile Joined May 2009
United States51 Posts
June 24 2010 06:33 GMT
#3
This is interesting and im happy to live in U.S
Death is on your left side about an arms distance behind you.-Don Juan
caseeker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
June 24 2010 06:33 GMT
#4
I guess so
caseeker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
June 24 2010 06:33 GMT
#5
Feel free to fix my English! I would appreciate
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
June 24 2010 06:39 GMT
#6
On June 24 2010 15:33 caseeker wrote:
Feel free to fix my English! I would appreciate


nar i kinda liked it, made me feel like i was right there in the korean air hanger :p

*your english is fine btw!
Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
June 24 2010 06:44 GMT
#7
sounds like constant income for Blizzard.
Either way they want your money and want you to play WoW.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 06:50:39
June 24 2010 06:50 GMT
#8
Sucks for Korea. That's what happens when governments try to regulate the video game industry.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 24 2010 06:50 GMT
#9
Wait, is this announcement only applicable to Korea? I'm confused.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
theuser
Profile Joined June 2008
Romania176 Posts
June 24 2010 06:51 GMT
#10
wtf?? so they just want to get in all the WoW players in sc2? Oh my god...
caseeker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
June 24 2010 06:52 GMT
#11
@MangoTango Yes, only for Korea.
Dreamexpress
Profile Joined April 2010
80 Posts
June 24 2010 06:52 GMT
#12
I guess eventually we will all be paying monthly subscription for blizzard games.
Not saying if its good or bad, but it seems like that is what they want.
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
June 24 2010 06:53 GMT
#13
At least Stork will get to play SC2 lol... hopefully he'll play that instead of WoW even though he has a WoW subscription
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Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
June 24 2010 06:54 GMT
#14
yay EVEN MORE people that will benefit from the newbie friendly system that blizzard wanted to focus on! oh wait, never mind, they are korean...
Megaphone
Profile Joined April 2010
United States64 Posts
June 24 2010 07:03 GMT
#15
What are you people talking about? How could this possibly be bad for Koreans?

If you want to buy the game ($59), you have unlimited access to battle.net.

If you want to play subscription based, you pay $10 a month, but don't have to buy the game. You can also play the game for one day for $2.

Blizzard donating ~600,000,000 won to the Korean Student Aid Foundation?

Free for WoW players?

Extra free open beta time at launch so everybody can try the game out?

I... I don't get it. Why is this bad again? Or do you guys just.. not read?


waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
June 24 2010 07:04 GMT
#16
it's a smart move to pull wow players over to sc2, and at least contribute to the esports revenue.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 07:08:21
June 24 2010 07:07 GMT
#17
would be cool if this was for europe too
since all small game shops i bought my collectors edition from are out of business since at least a year, i will be getting the download version anyway.

btw:
On June 24 2010 16:03 Megaphone wrote:
I... I don't get it. Why is this bad again? Or do you guys just.. not read?

i SO agree.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
caseeker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
June 24 2010 07:11 GMT
#18
Yeah, everything is fine, except 4 and 5
nerds need package :p
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 24 2010 07:13 GMT
#19
wow thats a lot of interesting news O_O
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
June 24 2010 07:14 GMT
#20
I wish they would do the free for WoW players thing for NA too. >_>
Writer
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
June 24 2010 07:14 GMT
#21
why is blizzard being so stupid about this game.. now making people pay. :S Nothing is free anymore damn.

User was temp banned for this post.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 24 2010 07:17 GMT
#22
On June 24 2010 16:14 Contagious wrote:
why is blizzard being so stupid about this game.. now making people pay. :S Nothing is free anymore damn.


Read before you post, for the love of god. The only thing that changes is that WoW players don't have to buy the game. Jesus.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SarcasticOne
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 07:19:03
June 24 2010 07:18 GMT
#23
weird that it's only korea...
maybe blizzard wants people to stop playing WoW and move onto a more respectible game?
CKSide
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States223 Posts
June 24 2010 07:19 GMT
#24
oh man walmart still has CE? nice, imma order one.
but yeah, interesting move by blizzard. only digital copies eh? i wonder how effective it will be.

i'm curious on the statistics on games purchases in korea based on digital copy and retail game purchases. is there a big number difference? do koreas already purchase a lot of their games digitally? and whats the number of korean WoW subscribers?
Check
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 24 2010 07:19 GMT
#25
On June 24 2010 16:03 Megaphone wrote:
What are you people talking about? How could this possibly be bad for Koreans?

If you want to buy the game ($59), you have unlimited access to battle.net.

If you want to play subscription based, you pay $10 a month, but don't have to buy the game. You can also play the game for one day for $2.

Blizzard donating ~600,000,000 won to the Korean Student Aid Foundation?

Free for WoW players?

Extra free open beta time at launch so everybody can try the game out?

I... I don't get it. Why is this bad again? Or do you guys just.. not read?




No one reads.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Megaphone
Profile Joined April 2010
United States64 Posts
June 24 2010 07:21 GMT
#26
On June 24 2010 16:19 keV. wrote:

No one reads.

<3
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
June 24 2010 07:39 GMT
#27
Why do people dislike digital download? I have enough CDs taking up space in my home.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
June 24 2010 07:47 GMT
#28
Nothing wrong with digital download, but a lot of people like the CDs and the collectors edition stuff. I still have my Broodwar Beta CD and I'll never chuck it just because it's such a cool memento. Sometimes physical stuff is just nice to have. Obviously most people in Korea disagree. I won't say this stuff isn't a surprise but I guess Blizzard know what they're doing.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
Rider
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands127 Posts
June 24 2010 07:50 GMT
#29
So, am I correct in assuming that Us/Eu will still get the adult version of the game?
My grandpa could've proxied better. And not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead.
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 07:51:38
June 24 2010 07:51 GMT
#30
On June 24 2010 16:47 Wargizmo wrote:
Nothing wrong with digital download, but a lot of people like the CDs and the collectors edition stuff. I still have my Broodwar Beta CD and I'll never chuck it just because it's such a cool memento. Sometimes physical stuff is just nice to have. Obviously most people in Korea disagree. I won't say this stuff isn't a surprise but I guess Blizzard know what they're doing.


when it comes to revenue, they know what they're doing. not so much the actual game/bnet anymore @ past levels of quality) apparently =S
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 08:01:02
June 24 2010 08:00 GMT
#31
Will Korean citizens still be able to import copies of the game from NA/US/EU if they want the collectors editions and hard copies of the game?
Wannabe zerg player
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
June 24 2010 08:00 GMT
#32
This looks really good, why are like half the people complaining? you guys really cant read...
I mean, there is nothing bad about more people starting SC2, even if they played WoW before, and the ones who wanted to buy the game as usual can still do that, and they dont have to pay a fee for bnet...

as far as packaged versions go.. i personally prefer digital downloads, i have a huge pile of CDs/DVDs here, and im happy if this doesnt get more.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
June 24 2010 08:04 GMT
#33
On June 24 2010 17:00 vlaric wrote:
Will Korean citizens still be able to import copies of the game from NA/US/EU if they want the collectors editions and hard copies of the game?

Or an AU version and play on the SEA server!... please?... anyone?
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 08:29:09
June 24 2010 08:28 GMT
#34
I wouldn't mind if they added the option to pay only for your b.net 2.0 account to play both WoW and SC2. Can imagine why they aren't getting the collectors edition since it probably has too much content in there too that would be rated M for Mature in Korea.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
June 24 2010 08:58 GMT
#35
Whatever the news, people will bitch about it because they don't read shit; it's really getting boring.

This is great for Koreans.
HenL
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway111 Posts
June 24 2010 09:00 GMT
#36
Hmm, some info is conflicting with this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399267
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
June 24 2010 09:04 GMT
#37
So what's in the T-rated edition?

It'll probably be a strange going from playing on regular adult version to watching pro matches on the T-rated version.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
June 24 2010 09:04 GMT
#38
wow thats interesting
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
June 24 2010 09:10 GMT
#39
Successful professional Starcraft II players can earn a university scholarship from Blizzard, in addition to whatever salary/prize money they earn. Hoping... :D
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
Megaphone
Profile Joined April 2010
United States64 Posts
June 24 2010 09:21 GMT
#40
On June 24 2010 18:00 HenL wrote:
Hmm, some info is conflicting with this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399267


What?
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
June 24 2010 09:26 GMT
#41
I think these are measures to counter KFTC and KeSPA regarding their rules against term of services, adult rating and ip right things. So basically they don't sell the game anymore, they sell the right to play the game instead.

It seems Blizzard will do what ever it take to control the rights to broadcast, replay, selling UMS MAP.
heynes
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany201 Posts
June 24 2010 09:29 GMT
#42
Am I getting it right that the Korean WoW players dont have to pay the initial 60 bugs ??

I mean srysly i wanna save that 60 $ + expansions + the normal WoW account money.
How can they do such a thing only for korea... so sad... guess we europeans have more money so we can pay more...
Megaphone
Profile Joined April 2010
United States64 Posts
June 24 2010 09:34 GMT
#43
On June 24 2010 18:29 heynes wrote:
Am I getting it right that the Korean WoW players dont have to pay the initial 60 bugs ??

I mean srysly i wanna save that 60 $ + expansions + the normal WoW account money.
How can they do such a thing only for korea... so sad... guess we europeans have more money so we can pay more...


After a while, it'll cost more to pay for the game if you pay $10 a month.

So, unless you plan on playing the game for exactly 5 months and never playing ever again, yes, they save a bit of money. Honestly though, it.. doesn't matter.

Nothing's sad, except you not understanding what's going on.
heynes
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 09:43:27
June 24 2010 09:36 GMT
#44
On June 24 2010 18:34 Megaphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 18:29 heynes wrote:
Am I getting it right that the Korean WoW players dont have to pay the initial 60 bugs ??

I mean srysly i wanna save that 60 $ + expansions + the normal WoW account money.
How can they do such a thing only for korea... so sad... guess we europeans have more money so we can pay more...


After a while, it'll cost more to pay for the game if you pay $10 a month.

So, unless you plan on playing the game for exactly 5 months and never playing ever again, yes, they save a bit of money. Honestly though, it.. doesn't matter.

Nothing's sad, except you not understanding what's going on.


If im an active korean WoW player i save 60 bugs + expansions ?
If im an active european WoW player i save nothing ?

Thats what i thought, which seems unfair = sad
*edit*

Allright i get it, my fault. Stop smoking weed before work kids.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 24 2010 09:54 GMT
#45
and they revealed an airplane with a SCII Design --> http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=1976986
keep it deep! @zulison
HenL
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 09:56:22
June 24 2010 09:56 GMT
#46
On June 24 2010 18:21 Megaphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 18:00 HenL wrote:
Hmm, some info is conflicting with this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399267


What?


There was no announcement for "pro version with lan" thing or plan for starcraft 2 league.


vs


Previously rumored but now confirmed - Starcraft II Professional Edition will have LAN, but will only be available for televised tournament play in South Korea.
loadme
Profile Joined April 2010
171 Posts
June 24 2010 10:18 GMT
#47
can you please post any official source?
even if its in korean?

don't get me wrong here, but as far as i can see its only your private blog with this announcement.

anyway, thanks for informing us
Yes.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 24 2010 10:21 GMT
#48
so this is why blizzard doesn't want to give lan, so it can charge everyone a monthly fee for multiplier mode -_-
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
June 24 2010 10:33 GMT
#49
On June 24 2010 19:21 aka_star wrote:
so this is why blizzard doesn't want to give lan, so it can charge everyone a monthly fee for multiplier mode -_-

This is completely false and not what the article said, at all. If you want to buy SC2 you get unlimited multiplayer for free, same as always. The only difference for paying, as has been stated five times in this thread already, is for WoW players who get it free.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
loadme
Profile Joined April 2010
171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 10:39:12
June 24 2010 10:37 GMT
#50
this whole thing is a mess

"no lan!"
"srsly no lan"
"do lan while sharing 1 connection for 100 ppl!!"
"2 versions of starcraft. one is called "professional", but you can use LAN ONLY where we want you too, because its to make love with korea"

"who wants chat rooms?"
"no chat rooms!"
"chatrooms soon after release"...........

"no unique IDs"
"unique in some way now.."


"NO cross region play"
"NO NOT FOR NOW!!"
"NOT possible, because of the insane lag, what will drop everybodyds game experience to hell.
BUT if you BUY the game a second time, you actually CAN create insane lag and ruin the experience for everyone, because then you can play cross region"
"ok ok, we fooled you again. x-region is coming soon. you only will have to download another client. its for free!!"




ladies and gentlemen, this whole SCII release drives me crazy.
i never saw this company acting soooo confused and inconsequent in any other release before
Yes.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 24 2010 10:47 GMT
#51
More options are good news for Koreans, although I don't understand why there is only digital download and no retail version at all.
But why would Blizzard give away SC2 to WOW subscribers for free? I wouldn't call it unfair at all if a WOW+SC2 combo subscription would cost, say, $16 per month, still much cheaper than separate WOW and SC2 subscriptions.
Anyway, a smart move by Blizzard to get WOW players to try SC2 and vice-versa, bind customers to Blizzard and to ensure a long-term steady flow of money.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
June 24 2010 10:54 GMT
#52
If you buy the 59 dollar version do you need to pay a subscription?
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Anarion
Profile Joined June 2010
17 Posts
June 24 2010 11:16 GMT
#53
They just want to get some of huge korean sc fanbase to play and pay for WoW too, apparently guy paying for WoW for several years will bring more cash than guy paying for single sc2 copy.
Nothing new really, they did same trick with "free WoW with satelite tv subscribtion"(that was tv promotion tho).
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
June 24 2010 11:36 GMT
#54
On June 24 2010 19:54 n.DieJokes wrote:
If you buy the 59 dollar version do you need to pay a subscription?

No

Anyone willing to translate some netizen comments? I'd like to see how the general audience perceives SC2 right now..
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
June 24 2010 11:55 GMT
#55
Well you cant really call it free if your paying for it through another game...
WoW players wont really care.
thesage42
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden13 Posts
June 24 2010 11:58 GMT
#56
Allowing the large WoW playerbase to try out and play SC2 for free seems like a really good idea, aimed at strengthening SC2 as an e-sport. The one thing an e-sport needs more than anything else is viewers. Getting more people interested in the game is so important. Giving them another reason to keep paying their WoW subscription in the lull between expansions is a nice bonus.
Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
June 24 2010 12:05 GMT
#57
Clever move by Blizz, since they lerned from WoW that subscription gives much more money than package release, they propably want to make evey other of their games, including SC2, upcoming Diablo3 and the"new" franchise into a subscription based play.

Since most people wouldn't buy a supbscription for each of SC2 or D3 and the new game, making Battlenet2.0 have it for all their games will bring them lot's of money.

Korea is propably their testing groud before rest of us will have this option.

Personally i don't like this, but times are changing and also it sucks for Koreans to not have adult nor box version.
On June 24 2010 18:54 zul wrote:
and they revealed an airplane with a SCII Design --> http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=1976986

Holy shit, nice livery! Japan has pokemon on their 747 , Koreans get Badass Jim hahaha.
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
June 24 2010 12:08 GMT
#58
Once again, I sense Blizz's catering to the casual scene. Not that that is a bad thing, but again they forget about the community that really made Broodwar what is is today..

It is rather perplexing as to why it only applies to Korean WoW players though. Perhaps the WoW scene in Korea is not too big due to the focus on more competitive-based games - and they are simply using this to get more WoW players.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like pandabearguy.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
June 24 2010 12:11 GMT
#59
On June 24 2010 21:08 moon` wrote:
Once again, I sense Blizz's catering to the casual scene. Not that that is a bad thing, but again they forget about the community that really made Broodwar what is is today..

It is rather perplexing as to why it only applies to Korean WoW players though. Perhaps the WoW scene in Korea is not too big due to the focus on more competitive-based games - and they are simply using this to get more WoW players.

Catering to casuals like this, as in in ways that in no way hurt the competitive scene is actually good for the future of the esports scene. Casuals make a big part of potential spectators of the leagues and such. I think its a clever move from Blizzard to make trying out SC2 even easier for a WoW player.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
June 24 2010 12:11 GMT
#60
I think getting more people into SC2 is good for everyone and will build Esports. I know when i buy a game i like to get a physical copy of it, so thats prob the only downside i can see for koreans.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
June 24 2010 12:19 GMT
#61
blizzard?
wow?

RAGE!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 24 2010 12:20 GMT
#62
What happens when you stop playing WoW? I guess you would then have to buy the game? Makes sense I guess, as you had it before as a free bundle with WoW. So it's 10/mo for SC2 and 15/mo for SC2+WoW. Good deal.
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
June 24 2010 12:22 GMT
#63
Download only makes alot of sense in Korea.
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Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
June 24 2010 12:24 GMT
#64
free for wow players.. TT
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Origine
Profile Joined January 2010
France167 Posts
June 24 2010 12:28 GMT
#65
Those policies are only applying on south korea right? o_O
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Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 12:33:02
June 24 2010 12:30 GMT
#66
On June 24 2010 21:11 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 21:08 moon` wrote:
Once again, I sense Blizz's catering to the casual scene. Not that that is a bad thing, but again they forget about the community that really made Broodwar what is is today..

It is rather perplexing as to why it only applies to Korean WoW players though. Perhaps the WoW scene in Korea is not too big due to the focus on more competitive-based games - and they are simply using this to get more WoW players.

Catering to casuals like this, as in in ways that in no way hurt the competitive scene is actually good for the future of the esports scene. Casuals make a big part of potential spectators of the leagues and such. I think its a clever move from Blizzard to make trying out SC2 even easier for a WoW player.

This is Very true!

Korean BW scene evolved in quite diffrent enviroment and repeating the feat the same way would be impossible. Blizz is playing it's cards right.
Also it is a long term change paving way for upcomind D3 and new franchise game.

Competitions with money are created by people that want to watch others play not by the players themselves.

edit:
On June 24 2010 21:28 Origine wrote:
Those policies are only applying on south korea right? o_O
Yes but i wouldn't be suprised if D3 or SC2 expansion would bring Bnet2.0 subscription option to the rest of the world.
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nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
June 24 2010 12:36 GMT
#67
I think this totally makes sense as a move and I can see how smart it is. They are selling Battle.net 2.0, they are no longer selling single games. WoW + SC2 are now bundled together and inseperable for the vast majority.

Amazing move by Blizzard imo. Good thing they are keeping the "Buy SC2 and play it forever" option, to keep me happy.
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dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
June 24 2010 12:39 GMT
#68
On June 24 2010 21:36 nihoh wrote:
I think this totally makes sense as a move and I can see how smart it is. They are selling Battle.net 2.0, they are no longer selling single games. WoW + SC2 are now bundled together and inseperable for the vast majority.

Amazing move by Blizzard imo. Good thing they are keeping the "Buy SC2 and play it forever" option, to keep me happy.


I see the idea behind that too. But i'm afraid that they might eventually remove the 'buy once play it forever' method and simply charge us a monthly fee in order to play WoW, SC2, Diablo 3 etc
m00n
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden14 Posts
June 24 2010 12:43 GMT
#69
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
June 24 2010 12:46 GMT
#70
makes me wish i was living in korea
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 20:03:41
June 24 2010 12:51 GMT
#71
Edit: nvm :D
Do you really want chat rooms?
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
June 24 2010 12:52 GMT
#72
I wounder why only wow players in korea should get sc2 for free. Are there so few subscribers that it wont hurt them? No idea what they are thinking there. Wow players from other countrys that are interested in sc2 will be kinda angry i think.
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
June 24 2010 12:52 GMT
#73
I kinda wonder if it will just be the first release or all three of the releases
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woolly
Profile Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
June 24 2010 12:56 GMT
#74
I like the idea of digital downloads, but only if they pass on the savings of packaging, manuals, and artwork to their customers....
Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States436 Posts
June 24 2010 13:10 GMT
#75
Wow this is great for Korea, wonder if this is the test bed for future expansion of these price structures. The amount of choice is incredible. I'd probably keep my wow subscription instead of paying for D3. Although I'd want the collectors version of it hmmm. If it does happen that way I could just put the collectors on a new account and have 2 copies I suppose. Now I'm just rambling....
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
June 24 2010 13:13 GMT
#76
On June 24 2010 21:52 007Kain wrote:
I wounder why only wow players in korea should get sc2 for free. Are there so few subscribers that it wont hurt them? No idea what they are thinking there. Wow players from other countrys that are interested in sc2 will be kinda angry i think.


First of all, Blizzard believes Korea has a lot of loyalty to the company. Additionally, many people in korea do not play on Month by Month subscriptions, but using hour by hour pay. This way, if you stop playing WoW and switch to SC2 you're still being billed by the hour.
hohoho
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 13:14:54
June 24 2010 13:14 GMT
#77
Thats kinda awesome X_X

I hope we get that o.0 I might try out cata :d

I assume they will have to pay for the expands, this is just the "bnet 2.0 subscription that happens to come with sc2 " I assume.
Bang!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 24 2010 13:31 GMT
#78
On June 24 2010 21:51 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
OP is missinformed. Koreans will be able to pay a one time fee(around 60 usd) for the full game and there will be a public beta(proper word is probably demo, lost in translation made it out to be public beta) at launch. Much similar to how you get 10 days free WOW. Overall the OP is just making people rage at stuff that is just untrue(although everything in the OP's post isnt untrue).

You'd be better off reading this thread here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129092

More specifically Waxangels post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129092&currentpage=12

That's exactly what the OP said....
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Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
June 24 2010 13:31 GMT
#79
How are people making this a bad thing?

They can still buy it for a one time fee like everyone else.
I
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
June 24 2010 13:34 GMT
#80
On June 24 2010 21:11 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 21:08 moon` wrote:
Once again, I sense Blizz's catering to the casual scene. Not that that is a bad thing, but again they forget about the community that really made Broodwar what is is today..

It is rather perplexing as to why it only applies to Korean WoW players though. Perhaps the WoW scene in Korea is not too big due to the focus on more competitive-based games - and they are simply using this to get more WoW players.

Catering to casuals like this, as in in ways that in no way hurt the competitive scene is actually good for the future of the esports scene. Casuals make a big part of potential spectators of the leagues and such. I think its a clever move from Blizzard to make trying out SC2 even easier for a WoW player.



I'm not saying it's going to hurt the competitive scene. What I meant to say was that in our modern age, companies have leaned towards catering the casual scene so much that the true entertainment value of games has dwindled. My interpretation of such things as innovation and creation being sold out by large corporations (i.e. Activision) which then has the money to market said game. I was just having a discussion with my friend on the future of games, more specifically the PC side of things.

For example, in the FPS scene there is not much innovation anymore. The Modern Warfare craze has taken over and it's pretty much the same shiz, different title. Games focused on the competitive side or even simply focused on the general player base like 1.6 have died off to a more "casual" scene. The PC platform seems to be ignored nowadays by big titles and simple ports from consoles are the only thing seen. This brings out many lackluster titles and such.

Thus, what I'm really saying is that yes, the casual scene is not a bad place to cater towards. What I truly fear is the death of creativity as more companies begin to be sold out and all companies care about is money (in Blizz's case, subscriptions to WoW).
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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
June 24 2010 13:38 GMT
#81
How in the world can some of you people turn this into a 'Blizzard is evil' thing...? I mean seriously?

All of these news makes complete sense for Korea. If you think otherwise, you have no idea what the culture is like over there.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 14:07:22
June 24 2010 14:05 GMT
#82
There's a post up on the wow korea site about this and the OP makes it seem much worse than the offer actually is. So what if the wow subscribers get to play SC2 on a trial? Perhaps the OP should go read that post and edit his posts besides trying to sensationalize this into something it is not.
There's no S in KT. :P
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 24 2010 15:16 GMT
#83
On June 24 2010 22:34 moon` wrote:
I'm not saying it's going to hurt the competitive scene. What I meant to say was that in our modern age, companies have leaned towards catering the casual scene so much that the true entertainment value of games has dwindled. My interpretation of such things as innovation and creation being sold out by large corporations (i.e. Activision) which then has the money to market said game. I was just having a discussion with my friend on the future of games, more specifically the PC side of things.

For example, in the FPS scene there is not much innovation anymore. The Modern Warfare craze has taken over and it's pretty much the same shiz, different title. Games focused on the competitive side or even simply focused on the general player base like 1.6 have died off to a more "casual" scene. The PC platform seems to be ignored nowadays by big titles and simple ports from consoles are the only thing seen. This brings out many lackluster titles and such.

Thus, what I'm really saying is that yes, the casual scene is not a bad place to cater towards. What I truly fear is the death of creativity as more companies begin to be sold out and all companies care about is money (in Blizz's case, subscriptions to WoW).

The business side of things has nothing to do with game development. This has literally no effect on Starcraft 2. If you're really so paranoid about this, complain in another thread; or, even better, play some independently-produced games. I'm not sure what you're expecting from big companies, of course they'll make games which the most people want to buy.
TaaiJoeng
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Hong Kong164 Posts
June 24 2010 15:23 GMT
#84
Membership?.....fuck that....
...but the parasites say NO!
Hyp-The-Feared
Profile Joined April 2010
United States108 Posts
June 24 2010 15:28 GMT
#85
was this the big thing for june 24th?
The-Feared
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
June 24 2010 15:31 GMT
#86
If I lived in Korea, I would just buy SC2 and register it to a different email account. So if I decide to restart my WoW subscription, I can have two SC2 accounts going
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 24 2010 15:39 GMT
#87
I think the main reason isn't for sc2, its for WoW, because of the massive numbers of competitor MMOs (think of say, 10+ that span the range from maplestory to Aion), this move will probably give WoW a bigger boost rather than make much of an impact of sc2 sales in korea and give WoW the edge over the KMMOs
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
June 24 2010 15:43 GMT
#88
On June 24 2010 16:00 caseeker wrote:
So many people wanted blizzard to announce the collectors edition for Korea today.. now blizzard took out the regular package from them.. Seriously, digital download sucks..


Digital download is amazing and I wouldn't have bought a third of the games I've bought in the past few years without it. You don't know what you're talking about.
caseeker
Profile Joined April 2010
United States63 Posts
June 24 2010 16:11 GMT
#89
On June 25 2010 00:43 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 16:00 caseeker wrote:
So many people wanted blizzard to announce the collectors edition for Korea today.. now blizzard took out the regular package from them.. Seriously, digital download sucks..


Digital download is amazing and I wouldn't have bought a third of the games I've bought in the past few years without it. You don't know what you're talking about.


I think YOU don't know what im talking about :p
Digital download it self is great, but if there is no option to buy actual package?? that truly sucks
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
June 24 2010 16:15 GMT
#90
On June 24 2010 16:03 Megaphone wrote:
What are you people talking about? How could this possibly be bad for Koreans?

If you want to buy the game ($59), you have unlimited access to battle.net.

If you want to play subscription based, you pay $10 a month, but don't have to buy the game. You can also play the game for one day for $2.

Blizzard donating ~600,000,000 won to the Korean Student Aid Foundation?

Free for WoW players?

Extra free open beta time at launch so everybody can try the game out?

I... I don't get it. Why is this bad again? Or do you guys just.. not read?




Agreed. I'm starting to wonder if I am going insane when reading these forums.
theDreamStick
Profile Joined May 2010
39 Posts
June 24 2010 16:18 GMT
#91
OMG SUCKS 4 KOREA THEY LIKE CAN'T BUY THE PHYSICAL GAME!!!

Seriously you guys that are complaining need to read. Nothing is negative about this press release. Everything is positive.

No one in the US should want this subscription BS.

And to all you WoW players that are complaining that you don't get the same deal, think of it this way.

You're paying 15$/month for WoW. You play somewhere are 40 hours a month. Okay. In one year, you pay 12*15 = 180$ for WoW.

Now if SC2 was given in addition to the WoW account, let's say you now play 20 hours SC2, 20 hours WoW. 1/2 of your money is going to SC2 => 90$ has been paid for SC2. Versus a one time 60$ offer.



Before you guys start posting your rebuttals, the above is contingent on the fact that you will play WoW/SC2 for those predetermined number of hours. Obviously if you still play WoW for 40 hours, and then play 20 hours of SC2 on top of that, then you need to go get a girlfriend.

At least for me, I quit WoW a while ago. And even if I was playing, I'd rather pay 60$ for a one time deal to guarantee a lifetime of playing SC2. By receiving SC2 in your WoW subscription, you'd be locked into 15$/month. Once you quit WoW, you'll still have to buy SC2. Unless you never quit WoW.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
June 24 2010 16:23 GMT
#92
Well I'm playing WoW currently and have been since beta went down (bored off my freaking ass), but I can safely guarantee that as soon as SC2 Phase 2 comes back, and then the subsequent release happens, I will not be touching WoW again until ATLEAST Cataclysm (and even at that I doubt I'll be jumping on playing that game ASAP like I did SC2).

Seems like Blizzard wants to encourage Korean players to take the subscription approach rather than to purchase the game. Digital Download sucks for us in NA because most of our internet is only 5-10 MBPS, with the exception of being in major cities, where fiber channels are available - however in S. Korea 20 MBPS and faster internet is widespread and cheap, and so a digital download really wouldn't be too big a deal. Of course I'm certain many Korean players would have loved to have an SC2 box if for nothing more than the collector's appeal.
i-bonjwa
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 24 2010 16:24 GMT
#93
Sounds like a great idea to me, they should do this here so we can crush wow nerds.
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Carga
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands58 Posts
June 24 2010 16:35 GMT
#94
Cool for Koreans that they get Battlenet 2.0 subscription... I am definitely gonna move to Korea lol.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
June 24 2010 16:39 GMT
#95
Woah I panicked a bit but didn't realize it was only for Korea.
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lesser_good
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada698 Posts
June 24 2010 16:40 GMT
#96
the only thing that bothered me was the censoring. If you dont want to show us than dont make something worth censoring
pew pew
Forlorn
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)69 Posts
June 24 2010 19:41 GMT
#97
So if I bought the CE would I be allowed to register it on the Korean server?

I was thinking that if they don't allow cross realm play then I might either buy 2 copies and play on the US server and Korean server or just play on the Korean one because it is more difficult.
Hi
vT.sOel
Profile Joined June 2010
122 Posts
June 24 2010 19:51 GMT
#98
reading this thread is hilarious. every 5 posts someone asks or says something painfully retarded and that is clearly addressed in the OP.
theDreamStick
Profile Joined May 2010
39 Posts
June 24 2010 19:54 GMT
#99
On June 25 2010 01:23 SichuanPanda wrote:
Well I'm playing WoW currently and have been since beta went down (bored off my freaking ass), but I can safely guarantee that as soon as SC2 Phase 2 comes back, and then the subsequent release happens, I will not be touching WoW again until ATLEAST Cataclysm (and even at that I doubt I'll be jumping on playing that game ASAP like I did SC2).

Seems like Blizzard wants to encourage Korean players to take the subscription approach rather than to purchase the game. Digital Download sucks for us in NA because most of our internet is only 5-10 MBPS, with the exception of being in major cities, where fiber channels are available - however in S. Korea 20 MBPS and faster internet is widespread and cheap, and so a digital download really wouldn't be too big a deal. Of course I'm certain many Korean players would have loved to have an SC2 box if for nothing more than the collector's appeal.



WHOA. 5-10 MBPS isn't really that slow. That's a 40-80 Mbit connection.

I think you mean Mb/S.

Also, even if it is only like a 8 Mbit/s connection, you're still download at 1 MB/s. That's really freakin fast. Starcraft 2 is probably in the neighborhood of 2 gigs, so you figure:

2048 / 60 => 30 minutes, give or take.

Think how long it'd take for you to goto gamestop, buy the game, come back, open/put CD in drive, and install it.

Digital download is completely viable. You're mistaken.
loadme
Profile Joined April 2010
171 Posts
June 24 2010 20:04 GMT
#100
Its not 2 gig

the beta maybe was 1.6 gig prepatched

but the final game includes everything
maybe more music
definitly many prerendered videos
intro video
things like tutorials
singleplayer
mass maps - at least i hope so
maybe an interactive manual


but your point is good.
a 2gig download is nothing today

and even less with a 50 mbit connection ;D
Yes.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 20:04:48
June 24 2010 20:04 GMT
#101
On June 24 2010 22:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 21:51 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
OP is missinformed. Koreans will be able to pay a one time fee(around 60 usd) for the full game and there will be a public beta(proper word is probably demo, lost in translation made it out to be public beta) at launch. Much similar to how you get 10 days free WOW. Overall the OP is just making people rage at stuff that is just untrue(although everything in the OP's post isnt untrue).

You'd be better off reading this thread here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129092

More specifically Waxangels post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129092&currentpage=12

That's exactly what the OP said....


Youre right, I totally misread the post by OP :D
Do you really want chat rooms?
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 20:24:56
June 24 2010 20:24 GMT
#102
It will be interesting to see if they catches on.

You subscribe to BNet 2.0, that's 15 bucks. You subscribe to Steam, that's 15 bucks, you subscribe to some other companies too, thats another 15-45 bucks. Next thing you know you are either only playing games from one company or you are spending a hundred dollars a month just to play your games.

Ahh, the future...

Edit: Oh, and I'm a game design major so in 2-3 years you'll be paying me muahahahahahahahahaha!
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 24 2010 20:33 GMT
#103
What fool would want a packaged physical version? It is just a bunch of junk to throw away. The important things are the data itself and the privilege to play online, neither of which require a package.
Turn off the radio
Adjudicator
Profile Joined May 2010
United States44 Posts
June 24 2010 20:40 GMT
#104
I love digital downloads (haven't purchased a hard copy of a game in more than three years), but this just seems like bad marketing...

your english was fine by the way. It was obvious you're a non-native speaker and didn't do the more obvious and obnoxious mistakes that ignorant native speakers usually make.
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
June 24 2010 20:46 GMT
#105
This really sounds like a good thing. I don't know why anyone would be unhappy about it.
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