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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
June 15 2010 19:12 GMT
#121
First I saw the pictures. Then I saw the words "APM TECHNOLOGY". Now I'm convinced fucking FakeSteve has everything to do with this. I hope I'm wrong because if not, prepare for an onslaught of irate PMs Mister!
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norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
June 15 2010 19:16 GMT
#122
On June 16 2010 04:00 nicoaldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 03:56 USn wrote:
On June 16 2010 02:24 holy_war wrote:
A high dpi mouse is very important for FPS's


no it isn't :<


^i don´t know, FPS players play on very low sens, and a high dpi mouse gives you more precise moves on low sens...


As a moderately successful counter-strike player I can safely say that all the 'gaming gear' is complete marketing bullshit. Please don't buy anything from razer or these other XTREME gaming companies. Many of my teammates have been suckered into buying razer gear over the years and my old microsoft intellimouse with side buttons has outlasted at least 4 generations of their mice. My mouse is still going strong and not once have I wanted more DPI. I'm especially pissed at razer because their small and overpriced $50 mousepad (WITH CARRYING CASE ROFL) replaced the $9 enormous super mat they used to sell at Comp USA. Thanks razer, definitely looking out for my pro gaming interests. Without your scientifically (note: not) advanced mousing surfaces I'd never be ABLE TO GO FROM JOE TO PRO IN 1.337 seconds (gaming glove reference for those that witnessed that abomination of an ad campaign).

Basically this stuff just appeals to the same sort of person who buys those cs servers that advertise 10,000+ FPS mega boosted hyper laser accelerated.
kekeke
Darpinion
Profile Joined January 2010
United States210 Posts
June 15 2010 19:17 GMT
#123
Retarded? Sorry to bash, but seriously? Put a sticker on your lachesis.
"A well formulated question is more important than the answer." -Albert Einstein
Therick
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway324 Posts
June 15 2010 19:18 GMT
#124
On June 16 2010 04:11 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:07 Therickz wrote:
On June 16 2010 03:59 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Razer naga is a joke, not razer

Shut your face.

You even ever tried the Naga?
Its a freaking beast, not only for MMOs, but I make great use of it playing SC2, micro has never been so easy to control

Oh, seems very fair, have fun using that on LANs Should boost your APM ^_^;;

Did i ever mention APM?

Read again.
Lift. Laugh. Love. <3
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 19:21:18
June 15 2010 19:20 GMT
#125
On June 16 2010 04:11 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:07 Therickz wrote:
On June 16 2010 03:59 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Razer naga is a joke, not razer

Shut your face.

You even ever tried the Naga?
Its a freaking beast, not only for MMOs, but I make great use of it playing SC2, micro has never been so easy to control

Oh, seems very fair, have fun using that on LANs Should boost your APM ^_^;;
If you don't know what that is razer explains it on the new Sc2 site so baddies will buy it.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:09 Paramore wrote:
according to earlier thread, can't use these items since they contain macro capabilities and all macro is cheat...

lolol

Pretty much this.
Wasn't fakesteve calling the steelseries mouse cheating a while back..?
+ Show Spoiler +

What is APM?
APM stands for Action per Minute. It is a measure of how many clicks and key presses a gamer can do per minute with his mouse and keyboard.

Why is APM important?
APM is important because it measures your speed with which you're able to give out new commands. It is therefore a good indicator of the control over your game you have in terms of both micro and macromanagement.

What would be a standard APM?
For beginners an APM of around 40-60 is not uncommon. More experienced players will have between 100-150. Professional players have around 300 APM with some exceptions even exceeding that.

What is effective APM?
Effective APM or eAPM is a more accurate way of measuring APM, as it only counts those clicks/key presses that actually issue a command as opposed to standard APM, which counts every single click and key press.


You don't know what the Naga does, do you? Its a great mouse for SC2. Lets you hit number keys very efficiently, particularly 7-10.

Edit: 12? lawl
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 19:22:18
June 15 2010 19:20 GMT
#126
On June 16 2010 04:18 Therickz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:11 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On June 16 2010 04:07 Therickz wrote:
On June 16 2010 03:59 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Razer naga is a joke, not razer

Shut your face.

You even ever tried the Naga?
Its a freaking beast, not only for MMOs, but I make great use of it playing SC2, micro has never been so easy to control

Oh, seems very fair, have fun using that on LANs Should boost your APM ^_^;;

Did i ever mention APM?

Read again.

I am very sorry sir
" make great use of it playing SC2, micro has never been so easy to control" Still sounds fair for tournaments / LANS, wont become jaedong that way ^_^
Any mouse with macroable buttons isn't allowed in any tournament or anything for a FPS, unless people don't know that you were using it, but it's like if I took my keyboard for "P" I moved it to "A" still makes it easier, doesn't make it right ^_^
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Darpinion
Profile Joined January 2010
United States210 Posts
June 15 2010 19:21 GMT
#127
On June 16 2010 04:18 Therickz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:11 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On June 16 2010 04:07 Therickz wrote:
On June 16 2010 03:59 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Razer naga is a joke, not razer

Shut your face.

You even ever tried the Naga?
Its a freaking beast, not only for MMOs, but I make great use of it playing SC2, micro has never been so easy to control

Oh, seems very fair, have fun using that on LANs Should boost your APM ^_^;;

Did i ever mention APM?

Read again.

The Naga the one with all the buttons on the side? Looks pretty cool... the only thing is whenever I buy a mouse/keyboard with that type of functionality I only use it a handful of times and I go back to the oldschool way.
"A well formulated question is more important than the answer." -Albert Einstein
qoolqop
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden71 Posts
June 15 2010 19:23 GMT
#128
not that anyone would see your high APM anyway, since sc2 doesnt have LAN.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 15 2010 19:23 GMT
#129
On June 16 2010 03:59 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 03:51 jamesr12 wrote:
i cant wait to see the price tag for these

80 dollar keyboard
who else has guesses

150 for keyboard
50 for mourse
65 for headset..
APM and base alert thing is kinda...ew.. Like i was going to buy this because i need a new keyboard and headset but I dont like the "STARCRAFT II" gimmicky looking stuff aswell as the APM BASE ALERT stuff is kinda n00bing "I WANNA BE GOOD SO IMMA BUY THIS"
Instead ill just like the Steelseries 7G keyboard, Razer or steelseries mousebad and Astro/Steelseries headset..Razer sphex, lycosa and krait/salmosa atm.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 03:57 Joey.rumz wrote:
Razer is a joke. The only thing I ever got from them that was good was the Razer Naga.

Does anyone even use their mousepads? Are they any good? I'm in the market for a good mouse pad.


Wrong about the razer, they have amazing mice and mouse pads are decent too aswell as they're cord shortner..
Razer naga is a joke, not razer
Steelseries and Razer have nice mousepads, I like razer's abit more..
Where is FAKESTEVE?



How is the razer naga a joke? I've had mine since the product was released, a nice mouse, a great feel on my right hand. The side buttons, not as useful as you think, but the price was the same as most of these 'high dpi gaming mouse,' so I didn't really care.


The Razer naga is a solid wired mouse. 5600 DPI feels really nice as well. Razer mouse are good and feel good, their keyboards are friggin terrible, their circuitry was split from w a s and d between some of the 6 circuits. If your PTT was caps lock or left ctrl (I use caps lock, my hands are big, it's comfortable,) I couldn't use w/a/and PTT at the same time. Poor design choices and it was headlining as the 'top keyboard to pick up,' at the time. I have no idea how.



As far as the mouse pad, thanks for the suggestion. Agree to disagree perhaps on the naga, I don't know.


p.s. - What the hell is with this APM technology? What a joke.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 19:25:12
June 15 2010 19:24 GMT
#130
Haha that apm thing looks so ridiculous and awesome at the same time :p

It remembers me when i used to watch replays of gosu players with chaoslauncher. When the apm colour switched from red to blue ( 400+) i was like "goooooooood "
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
June 15 2010 19:24 GMT
#131
[image loading]

This keyboard costs 10 times less
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 15 2010 19:26 GMT
#132
they look very cool
that mouse is kinda lame though.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
rS.Sinatra
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada785 Posts
June 15 2010 19:29 GMT
#133
with the release of these mouse/keyboard i will take that as blizzard saying macro is not cheating since these devices are macro enabled!! :D gogo spawn 50,000 larva with 1 button!!!
www.rsgaming.com
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 15 2010 19:30 GMT
#134
On June 16 2010 04:29 Paramore wrote:
with the release of these mouse/keyboard i will take that as blizzard saying macro is not cheating since these devices are macro enabled!! :D gogo spawn 50,000 larva with 1 button!!!



You think macros will be acceptable in competitive play?

Doubtful at best.
Nutshell
Profile Joined March 2010
United States41 Posts
June 15 2010 19:31 GMT
#135
On June 16 2010 04:29 Paramore wrote:
with the release of these mouse/keyboard i will take that as blizzard saying macro is not cheating since these devices are macro enabled!! :D gogo spawn 50,000 larva with 1 button!!!

Can be done without a macro!
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
June 15 2010 19:35 GMT
#136
On June 16 2010 04:16 norterrible wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:00 nicoaldo wrote:
On June 16 2010 03:56 USn wrote:
On June 16 2010 02:24 holy_war wrote:
A high dpi mouse is very important for FPS's


no it isn't :<


^i don´t know, FPS players play on very low sens, and a high dpi mouse gives you more precise moves on low sens...


As a moderately successful counter-strike player I can safely say that all the 'gaming gear' is complete marketing bullshit. Please don't buy anything from razer or these other XTREME gaming companies. Many of my teammates have been suckered into buying razer gear over the years and my old microsoft intellimouse with side buttons has outlasted at least 4 generations of their mice. My mouse is still going strong and not once have I wanted more DPI. I'm especially pissed at razer because their small and overpriced $50 mousepad (WITH CARRYING CASE ROFL) replaced the $9 enormous super mat they used to sell at Comp USA. Thanks razer, definitely looking out for my pro gaming interests. Without your scientifically (note: not) advanced mousing surfaces I'd never be ABLE TO GO FROM JOE TO PRO IN 1.337 seconds (gaming glove reference for those that witnessed that abomination of an ad campaign).

Basically this stuff just appeals to the same sort of person who buys those cs servers that advertise 10,000+ FPS mega boosted hyper laser accelerated.


Sorry razer is a solid company sponsoring a lot of tournaments and players, especially teamliquid. I love my razer products, I've had 4 razer mice now, and I've never gone back to a logitech or anything else. Go razer!

Im curious to how this APM technology works.. the
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 19:36:40
June 15 2010 19:36 GMT
#137
The only thing from razer that works for me is the goliathus control surface mousepad. I didn't like the other stuff they made.

I use an A4Tech mouse on the pad and am quite happy with it.
Not enough energy
Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
June 15 2010 19:36 GMT
#138
I like the KB look and the layout seems good. I have been wanting a back lit KB for a while. There is no way im paying 120$ tho.

I use this now and it works great. came free with a lenovo pc

[image loading]
you think as i do
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 19:42:09
June 15 2010 19:37 GMT
#139
Apparently one of the lightning options is "unit created". Can't read most of the others in that tiny screenshot.

Things like that might be handy. Visual queues beyond the easily ignored and forgotten text on the left-hand side of the screen.

- Your base is under attack
- Ally base is under attack
- Your unit is under attack
- Ally unit is under attack
- Building complete
- Upgrade complete
- Training complete
- Resource exhausted?
- Research complete
- Warp-in Complete
- Calldown launched?
- Morph complete
- Mothership complete
USn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 19:45:12
June 15 2010 19:39 GMT
#140
On June 16 2010 04:00 nicoaldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 03:56 USn wrote:
On June 16 2010 02:24 holy_war wrote:
A high dpi mouse is very important for FPS's


no it isn't :<


^i don´t know, FPS players play on very low sens, and a high dpi mouse gives you more precise moves on low sens...


it's the opposite, you want high dpi for high sensitivities... that's because you'll be moving the mouse by tiny amounts and you want it to pick up on that as accurately as possible. For example, cs is a game where people play with really low sensitivities because it's slow and you need to be pre-positioned for one hit kills - usually they play with 400 dpi. Unless you've got your mouse speed cranked up there's no real point to dpi past about 1000 for somone with normal cursor movement, and even that's probably pretty excessive.

On June 16 2010 04:16 norterrible wrote:replaced the $9 enormous super mat they used to sell at Comp USA.


I use one of those, took me a while to find one at a reasonable price. Fantastic :D. I'm thinking of cutting it in half and carrying the other part with my laptop.
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