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stolensheep
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom306 Posts
May 22 2010 10:57 GMT
#1741
This is so fucking idiotic, dropped 4 times out of 4, without no reason or hesitation, just "You were dropped!"

I'm not playing any more games until they get this fixed.
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Trickityhouses
Profile Joined February 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 11:02:50
May 22 2010 11:01 GMT
#1742
They should add an Unobtanium league
Autofire2
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Pakistan290 Posts
May 22 2010 11:04 GMT
#1743
Is this the last patch? I mean, no one but blizz knows for sure I suppose but it seems to me that they're suspending the beta on may 31st, only to reinstate it at some point and end it again June 21st? Or are they no longer having downtime starting may 31st? Confusing...

Also, would any of the more experienced RTSers here care to speculate on post-release patch frequency? I don't want SC2 to be a half-finished game for years, and it seems a lot of vets (yes, vets, not copper league whiners) are still very concerned about the direction of the gameplay design philosophy.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
May 22 2010 11:10 GMT
#1744
I'm getting this error as soon as I log in (without doing anything):

"There was a problem downloading this content. Please try again later."

This same message repeats if I try to join a game or find a match via matchmaking. It will start downloading then stop and give me this message.

I am using PC. Have tried deleting cache to no avail.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
May 22 2010 11:17 GMT
#1745
On May 22 2010 19:57 jamie wrote:
This is so fucking idiotic, dropped 4 times out of 4, without no reason or hesitation, just "You were dropped!"

I'm not playing any more games until they get this fixed.

The server is going up and down...
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 22 2010 11:23 GMT
#1746
Something positive I've noticed is that the latency seems WAY better for me on the US server now - like, I forgot to start battleping and it still felt almost as good as when I play on europe.

I wonder if it's because of the TCP->UDP switch or if they added servers further east again (which was the cause last time I felt this improvement).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
osten
Profile Joined March 2008
Sweden316 Posts
May 22 2010 11:31 GMT
#1747
Why would blizzard suddenly after yeeeeears of professional control release a patch that just dosen't work? Even wow and wc3 beta was less buggy than this is now.

Anyway, I tried ultras against a guy who massed marauders, they got slapped big time, even with infestors helping out, I had to empty half of LT to kill him with ultras.. Overseer moderately useful, can drop 1 terran then out of energy, kill 1 probe max and after that he will hunt the overseer. You can stop buildings that are building now tough, which is totally sweet.
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 14:54:44
May 22 2010 14:54 GMT
#1748
Well when I log in now it says my character expires on June 21st... maybe we'll get monthly fees? 8[
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
May 22 2010 14:59 GMT
#1749
my game is updating to patch 14, but not patch notes are displayed. anyone know anything about this?
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
May 22 2010 15:32 GMT
#1750
Oh wow, they only drop one Infested Terran? I thought for 125 Energy they would drop 5 at once.
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
May 22 2010 16:00 GMT
#1751
On May 22 2010 20:23 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Something positive I've noticed is that the latency seems WAY better for me on the US server now - like, I forgot to start battleping and it still felt almost as good as when I play on europe.

I wonder if it's because of the TCP->UDP switch or if they added servers further east again (which was the cause last time I felt this improvement).


Latency seems fine, but the lagging out has got to stop.

Previous to patch 13 I never once disconnected due to lag. Post patch 13 in 3 of my 5 placement matches I was winning and it started to drop the other guy. When it finished timing out it hands me the loss? Wtf...how does that even work?

It isn't a huge deal, I will end up just rolling low league players and getting promoted into diamond anyhow. It is just a bit irksome to evidently hand wins to an undeserving player because their new network code does random stupid crap.

After spending some time in custom matches experimenting with the changes here are my take aways.

The Void Ray change was stupid..Period. The VR was perfectly fine in PVP and PVZ. You don't retune a unit that is fine in 2 of 3 matchups, you Tune the 1 match up that it is a problem in. That is piss poor balancing right there. (additional note, the VR seems to not be holding its charge. I was tired last night and need to test it today when I can, but I could of sworn it wasn't holding its charge 3 seconds. I used a spot to charge it that I always do on steppes of war and it decharged when I attacked. I may have taken longer then I realized, will review the replay later.)

The FF change was meaningless. Terran aren't going to suddenly be putting thors on the front lines to crush it and Zerg aren't going to be any more inclined to go ultras. The only thing this changed was PvP which FF was a non issue. Again this was a completely stupid balance change.

Stim buff - Without the VR nerf likely a fine change. With Maruader still being able to stim, a horrible change. The last thing T needed was to get stim even faster. Sans the pointless VR nerf, I might of been able to swallow this. That said, I rolled a T with VR's last night anyhow just because he was bad. The VR didn't win the fight, I just used it to add insult to injury post nerf. The range reduction does make it unlikely I will use them much outside like I would use a mothership now.

Zerg buff doesn't seem like a huge deal, just requires more scouting. Simple solution if I see them going lots of overseers is to drop a SG and pump a few phoenix and go overseer hunting.

Friends list change - So they made it more difficult to add friends? Why they felt the need to change this is beyond me. So now It is harder for me to add friends, just so they could implement facebook retardation. If I wanted anything to do with faceshit, I would use it. Kindly keep that garbage the hell out of my game blizzard. Give us back the old version of the friends list, it worked better and ensured that people couldn't completely name jack.

Overall I think the patch was just poorly thought out. The changes made don't have the intended effect and just come across as pointless pandering to the whiners. Honestly any change made with lower tier players in mind is a terrible change. You never balance a game around unskilled players, that is just straight stupidity.
tarsier
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
May 22 2010 16:03 GMT
#1752
On May 23 2010 00:32 Bibdy wrote:
Oh wow, they only drop one Infested Terran? I thought for 125 Energy they would drop 5 at once.


overlords just got a temporary attack unit with higher dps than a marine... 25 energy a pop would be rediculous :D
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 22 2010 16:10 GMT
#1753
On May 23 2010 01:03 tarsier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 00:32 Bibdy wrote:
Oh wow, they only drop one Infested Terran? I thought for 125 Energy they would drop 5 at once.


overlords just got a temporary attack unit with higher dps than a marine... 25 energy a pop would be rediculous :D

correction: 150/100 cost overseers got a temporary attack with higher dps than a marine, usable once every two minutes.
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
May 22 2010 16:11 GMT
#1754
On May 22 2010 20:31 osten wrote:
Why would blizzard suddenly after yeeeeears of professional control release a patch that just dosen't work? Even wow and wc3 beta was less buggy than this is now.

Anyway, I tried ultras against a guy who massed marauders, they got slapped big time, even with infestors helping out, I had to empty half of LT to kill him with ultras.. Overseer moderately useful, can drop 1 terran then out of energy, kill 1 probe max and after that he will hunt the overseer. You can stop buildings that are building now tough, which is totally sweet.


well i guess they at least found out about this before the game was released. personally ive been able to play pretty much as normal, with slightly more lag, though i did get dropped from one match. i'm no computer programmer but i'm gonna go ahead and guess this new battlenet is a good deal more complicated and taxing than the old one, and their internal testing can't possibly equal the amount of people playing it now. hopefully they'll fix this soon so we can actually enjoy the last week of the beta though.

and yeah infested terran is useless. it's time for them to just give up trying to force it in and just cut it from multiplayer already. but i'm not complaining cos the overseer went from one useful spell to two useful spells and a useless spell which is still an improvement of 100%
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th3b3t0
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico29 Posts
May 22 2010 16:14 GMT
#1755
[not complaining or ragging]

the patch is ok, and the new interface is omg soo good.

but it keep freezing on multiplayer D:

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lunar3force
Profile Joined January 2010
78 Posts
May 22 2010 16:25 GMT
#1756
Great, 1 week left of beta and this is compeately unplayable, way to go Blizzard.
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
May 22 2010 16:27 GMT
#1757
After playing some and watching streams I don't think any of the patch changes really affect zerg that much. Nothing really seems viable and frenzy is kind of ok to have but doesn't have that big of an impact on the game because infestor tech comes too late, ultras aren't viable, and the spell doesn't viably fit into any zerg tech pattern where it would even be moderately useful.

The overseer contaminate spell seemed cool but again I've been having trouble finding enough gas where I feel comfortable making several overseers. I would rather have more fighting units. The infested terran is stupid and they should take it out of the game. The overseer being able to contaminate and spawn infested terrans doesn't feel right. I didn't mind the overseer as it was before but if they had to add something hallucinate would be cool and it'd be something I'd actually use just as something to help tank during battles.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
May 22 2010 16:29 GMT
#1758
On May 22 2010 20:23 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Something positive I've noticed is that the latency seems WAY better for me on the US server now - like, I forgot to start battleping and it still felt almost as good as when I play on europe.

I wonder if it's because of the TCP->UDP switch or if they added servers further east again (which was the cause last time I felt this improvement).


I noticed the same thing on eu server playing from the us. I forgot to start battleping for my first two games and the lag was even less than some games I've played on us server but my game always froze at the end when the other person left.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
tarsier
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
May 22 2010 16:29 GMT
#1759
On May 23 2010 01:10 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 01:03 tarsier wrote:
On May 23 2010 00:32 Bibdy wrote:
Oh wow, they only drop one Infested Terran? I thought for 125 Energy they would drop 5 at once.


overlords just got a temporary attack unit with higher dps than a marine... 25 energy a pop would be rediculous :D

correction: 150/100 cost overseers got a temporary attack with higher dps than a marine, usable once every two minutes.


observers cost 50/100/1 supply and they have 60 hp/0 armor and cloak.

overseers cost 50/100/0 supply and they have 200hp/1 armor, can spawn a temp marine, disable buildings and spawn a funky changeling.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
May 22 2010 16:30 GMT
#1760
I think that the buff to terran is enough to deal with void rays without needing the nerf to void rays, either fast vikings or fast stim seem to be able to counter void rays fine, 4-5 stimmed marines take down a void ray really fast.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
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