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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 13 2010 20:41 GMT
#41
On May 14 2010 05:37 Azarkon wrote:
Well, the issue with Idra is not that he doesn't play a lot, it's that he still isn't super solid against cheese. That, or he simply chooses not to deal with it in small tourneys.

Either way, Idra's gonna have to change his game after this latest patch.


i dont think idra would value a win in those tourneys either
idra could be completely unpredictable with all-in cheese as well, to keep his opponents honest and from building completely around his build
but instead he just does the exact 14/15 pool 16expo build every single game
he knows everybody knows, but hes just going to do it and see if you can stop him
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
May 13 2010 20:52 GMT
#42
good to see idra doing so well
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 20:56:37
May 13 2010 20:55 GMT
#43
Why is Rainbow playing as NCYellow? is he a yellow fanboy or something or is he actually trying to pose as yellow, wtf?
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 13 2010 20:56 GMT
#44
I bet this "Allin" guy (rank 109) is kwanro
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
dicember
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States50 Posts
May 13 2010 20:59 GMT
#45
On May 14 2010 05:41 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 05:37 Azarkon wrote:
Well, the issue with Idra is not that he doesn't play a lot, it's that he still isn't super solid against cheese. That, or he simply chooses not to deal with it in small tourneys.

Either way, Idra's gonna have to change his game after this latest patch.


i dont think idra would value a win in those tourneys either
idra could be completely unpredictable with all-in cheese as well, to keep his opponents honest and from building completely around his build
but instead he just does the exact 14/15 pool 16expo build every single game
he knows everybody knows, but hes just going to do it and see if you can stop him


lol he's like savior going 3 hatch "i know you know i'm going to do it. but there is nothing you can do to stop it."

except idra isn't good with cheese and savior pwns cheese or standard
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 21:09:25
May 13 2010 21:07 GMT
#46
On May 14 2010 05:59 dicember wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 05:41 billyX333 wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:37 Azarkon wrote:
Well, the issue with Idra is not that he doesn't play a lot, it's that he still isn't super solid against cheese. That, or he simply chooses not to deal with it in small tourneys.

Either way, Idra's gonna have to change his game after this latest patch.


i dont think idra would value a win in those tourneys either
idra could be completely unpredictable with all-in cheese as well, to keep his opponents honest and from building completely around his build
but instead he just does the exact 14/15 pool 16expo build every single game
he knows everybody knows, but hes just going to do it and see if you can stop him


lol he's like savior going 3 hatch "i know you know i'm going to do it. but there is nothing you can do to stop it."

except idra isn't good with cheese and savior pwns cheese or standard


-fixed

lol he's like savior going 3 hatch "i know you know i'm going to do it. but there is nothing you can do to stop it except for paying me money."
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 13 2010 21:39 GMT
#47
On May 14 2010 05:37 Azarkon wrote:
Well, the issue with Idra is not that he doesn't play a lot, it's that he still isn't super solid against cheese. That, or he simply chooses not to deal with it in small tourneys.

Either way, Idra's gonna have to change his game after this latest patch.


?

There's no S in KT. :P
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 13 2010 21:46 GMT
#48
Watch his games vs. Moo Baarn...
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 13 2010 21:58 GMT
#49
Jeez that's a lot of zerg at the top.
Wintermute
Profile Joined March 2010
United States427 Posts
May 13 2010 22:01 GMT
#50
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.
Don't let me say this, but you're no worse than me; it's crazy.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:17:05
May 13 2010 22:11 GMT
#51
On May 14 2010 07:01 Wintermute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.


IdrA =2231 rating, 99-19 on NA servers
i dont think anybody can make a case that he is not #1 on NA in terms of ability
if there were 20-30 ppl better than NA's #1 player then something would be seriously wrong (seeing as how he plays 12-14 hours as well)
i doubt whoever NA's #2 player could be doing as well as idra on the asia servers

artosis is 38-11 on NA while 72-53 on asia
the chinese player Gale was top 10 player on NA with a good win% for awhile after first reset
hes in the thirties and 324-252 on asia

if idra played 500 games on NA he'd be #1 by 300+ points IMO
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
May 13 2010 22:14 GMT
#52
On May 14 2010 07:01 Wintermute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.



Except... he really is that good?

God every thread becomes "I hate Idra cuz he's mean"
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
May 13 2010 22:21 GMT
#53
On May 14 2010 07:14 faction123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:01 Wintermute wrote:
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.



Except... he really is that good?

God every thread becomes "I hate Idra cuz he's mean"


Exactly, or "because he's sticking with the same solid build everygame". People just doesn't seem to get the fact, that he really is good.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sputnik.theory
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland449 Posts
May 13 2010 22:24 GMT
#54
I can't belive that (Z)Hyungjun made the list!

+ Show Spoiler +
haha jk
“On the night of the murder I was at home, asleep. The characters in my dream can vouch for me.”
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 13 2010 22:26 GMT
#55
On May 14 2010 07:01 Wintermute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.

... IdrA is almost Korean. What separates him now? He's living in korea with Korean progamers and eating Korean food. He learns from Korean coaches and teammates and practices SC 24/7. If you were implying that there's some GENETIC difference, you're an absolute idiot. Koreans are better simply because of their environment and their own practice; they practice a lot, have a sick work ethic, and are surrounded by people like that, so they have to work as hard as HELL. Say what you want about IdrA, but never say that this guy is the average Euro or NA foreign progamer. He's not anymore.

Also, Asian SC2 is good, but it's also brand new, and the US/Euro is on a somewhat similar level... for now. IdrA is one of the few progamers who has so quickly transitioned to SC2, and he was doing very well in Korea. Money is right now in BW, not yet in SC2... when (or if) money shifts over to SC2, then you'll see a freaking enormous gap appear again like in the BW scene.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 13 2010 22:30 GMT
#56
wow Idra high win percentage comparitively and tons of games. Really shows the difference between US and asia servers. He is just as high in the US with just over 100 games and 83% compared to his 67% 600games on asia.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 13 2010 22:33 GMT
#57
oh wow, never realise spunky was actually up that high in the asian server, is tasteless up in the top as well?
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:35:33
May 13 2010 22:34 GMT
#58
On May 14 2010 07:11 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:01 Wintermute wrote:
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.


IdrA =2231 rating, 99-19 on NA servers
i dont think anybody can make a case that he is not #1 on NA in terms of ability
if there were 20-30 ppl better than NA's #1 player then something would be seriously wrong (seeing as how he plays 12-14 hours as well)
i doubt whoever NA's #2 player could be doing as well as idra on the asia servers

artosis is 38-11 on NA while 72-53 on asia
the chinese player Gale was top 10 player on NA with a good win% for awhile after first reset
hes in the thirties and 324-252 on asia

if idra played 500 games on NA he'd be #1 by 300+ points IMO


disagree. Nony > Idra, and if they play in any tourneys soon he will show it again. idra wins from mass gaming, and you cant suck if you play 500+ games in the span of 2 weeks, esp if you are living in a progaming house.. but when it comes to actual skill and RTS "talent".. Nony is head and shoulders above of idra. Nony can take months off, come back barely playing any games and beat idra no prob, as we saw in TSL2.

They say practice makes perfect, but I dont think thats the case in RTS or FPS games.. You need a certain gamesense/feel for the games to be great, combined with practice.. and Idra is missing that, which is why he cant defend simple cheese half the time, he has no adjusting, just 10 hours a day of practicing tthe latest "korean build" out.. Remember the first beta reset, Idra was like 200-150 on the US server?? A talented RTS player owns from the very first patch because they have a superior mental game than just 1000 hours of buildorders practiced.

Its respectable to have the dedication idra has, but since hes such a bm dick to everyone, i am calling it how I see it. He would of never got past courage, yet Nony almost did it his first try.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
hoovehand
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:35:33
May 13 2010 22:35 GMT
#59
On May 14 2010 07:14 faction123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 07:01 Wintermute wrote:
On May 14 2010 04:52 scintilliaSD wrote:
Ooh, IdrA #3 Zerg on the Asian servers combined. That's pretty sweet.


Hard to believe that the Asian SC2 community is noticeably better than Euro or NA if IdrA is #3.

I'd expect him to be in the 20s or 30s if it was as tough as advertised.



Except... he really is that good?

God every thread becomes "I hate Idra cuz he's mean"


mad props to idra for training broodwar 9 hours a day, then training 3+ hours sc2 on the side.

i don't think anyone would have a problem with idra if he had any concept of losing a GAME graciously.

imagine if all players on battlenet did 'idrage' after every loss...
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 22:42:59
May 13 2010 22:42 GMT
#60
DUDE - I want replays of those guys... Especially the Terrans like Ensnare and after what Tester said about Terran being the best race by far in the right hands! ^^'

Cuz atm, I don't like the Korean Terran-builds that much... Basically always
- rather early gas
- 1rax+reactor---> pump Marines
- rather early second gas
- Factory+Techlab ---> pump Tanks
- Starport ---> first Viking, then techlab for Raven, then Banshees


---> Timing push with Point defense drone...

Just no macro-game at all - just a timing attack. Really not what I expect from Koreans at all! ^^'
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