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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
May 13 2010 16:08 GMT
#41
On May 13 2010 16:30 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
LET IT BE KNOWN!

The great debate: Which server has a stronger bronze division: ASIA

what a relief!


But american servers have much funnier people!

What is with this obsession about which server is better that some people have? Im not being sarcastic, I honestly don't understand it.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
deo.deo
Profile Joined April 2010
135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 16:23:22
May 13 2010 16:10 GMT
#42
was playing on the EU server first. plat (100-96 stats)
just made an account on the US server and have 30-12 stats on plat as well.

Overall it feels easier on the US server especially vs Zerg. On Europe I lost most of my late games vs Zerg its much better on US so far.

But I have a better connection in the US and have played less games so it might even out after all.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#43
someone cannon rushed you... oh my god no way! How could that be possible!

It's not like copper players on the NA servers cannon rush or anything dear god the asia server is so far above us!
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 16:25:44
May 13 2010 16:24 GMT
#44
On May 14 2010 00:54 Konsume wrote:
huummm... I play zerg exclusively for about 3weeks now and:

I'm 1550ish US PLAT and having maximum trouble against Terran

I'm 1620ish ASIA PLAT and having no trouble against Terran only some Zerg players


and I'm around 1200ish EU PLAT and having SUPER HUGE trouble against Terran!

So imo.... EU > US > ASIA at laest for terran players


With recent buff by patch, terran is really doing good in Korean tourneys. Marine Tank Raven composition is really strong against Protoss recently.

BTW, Korean terrans HATES doublings though.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
May 13 2010 16:25 GMT
#45
In the US platinum players seem to be people who watch streams and competitive matches as well as play a fair number of games and have some very basic build orders or cheese. In Asia, those are all things I would expect a larger % of the population to be doing. None of this makes Asia "better," it makes Asia have more interested SC players.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
May 13 2010 16:26 GMT
#46
There are just fewer absolute newbies on Asia right now, as well as more very very good players. There's still a middle ground like their was in BW.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
srrybunny
Profile Joined May 2010
United States10 Posts
May 13 2010 16:46 GMT
#47
On May 13 2010 15:39 TheDominator wrote:
Asia will of course have better players.

lol
HI
YuMSc2
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland104 Posts
May 13 2010 16:52 GMT
#48
The difference between Asian players and US players in my opinion is that Asian players tend to think and analyse their strats more than US players.

Although it's merely a game, they percieve it as a type of challenge.

In addition, maybe its just that Asian players have a very different way of playing that US players can't integrate in their systems? I'm just saying. RWJ
I think therefore I am
StriverzG
Profile Joined March 2010
United States115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 17:24:54
May 13 2010 17:23 GMT
#49
obv every server has excellent players but as a whole no question asia is the best bc of their records, smarts, apm, and work ethic
Sun Tzu once said..
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 13 2010 17:31 GMT
#50
I'm not sure there's any point at all to these threads. There are so many factors you can't really account for that could influence your perception of different skill levels of the servers that debating it seems unproductive.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Persev
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
May 13 2010 17:32 GMT
#51
[QUOTE]On May 13 2010 16:40 Art_of_Kill wrote:
its not a secret that the width of good player is ASIA > EU > US, but the top player on all the three server are pretty close in skill[/QUOTE

I think in Width of player waist size is US > EU >ASIA
Be nice!
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
May 13 2010 18:32 GMT
#52
On May 14 2010 00:36 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 22:47 Strykjarnet wrote:
On May 13 2010 15:39 samuraibael wrote:
I dont know why people persist in using rank as a measure. Its utterly meaningless. Just use rating.


Rank is rating sorted. If you use rank it means you are using rating as a measure. I don't understand what you mean.


wrong.

Rank is rating sorted by division. Big difference there.


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2

"As far as comparison across divisions it's certainly something we've considered but there are issues, such that the rankings in one division don't directly translate to the other divisions. So you couldn't compare division 10 to division 48 and compare one player's points to another."

Rating is internal to each division, you can't compare rating between divisions. Rating is a bad way to compare players. Rank says your place in your division, same thing as your rating does. The only stats Blizzard gives us which are useful are your wins and loses afaik.

Bob300
Profile Joined April 2010
United States505 Posts
May 13 2010 21:01 GMT
#53
On May 13 2010 15:39 TheDominator wrote:
Asia will of course have better players.

Agreed
NYC Suburbs --- College Freshman --- Season 1 - Drone Whiskey
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
May 13 2010 21:43 GMT
#54
On May 14 2010 02:32 Persev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 16:40 Art_of_Kill wrote:
its not a secret that the width of good player is ASIA > EU > US, but the top player on all the three server are pretty close in skill


I think in Width of player waist size is US > EU >ASIA


rofl
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 23:58:18
May 13 2010 23:41 GMT
#55
On May 14 2010 00:54 Konsume wrote:
huummm... I play zerg exclusively for about 3weeks now and:

I'm 1550ish US PLAT and having maximum trouble against Terran

I'm 1620ish ASIA PLAT and having no trouble against Terran only some Zerg players


and I'm around 1200ish EU PLAT and having SUPER HUGE trouble against Terran!

So imo.... EU > US > ASIA at laest for terran players


This is very interesting and exactly what i thought as well. I dont play much myself anymore but i watch alot of replays.
And i think there is a pretty big skill gap between EU and US/Asia in the upper plat regions.
There are obviously some exceptions but overall when it comes to top players and making less mistakes EU seems clearly ahead when you watch the reps of tournament wins and top ladder games.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
May 13 2010 23:48 GMT
#56
i thought its a fact now that us server is the weakest?
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 13 2010 23:54 GMT
#57
[QUOTE]On May 14 2010 02:32 Persev wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 13 2010 16:40 Art_of_Kill wrote:
its not a secret that the width of good player is ASIA > EU > US, but the top player on all the three server are pretty close in skill[/QUOTE

I think in Width of player waist size is US > EU >ASIA
[/QUOTE]
only because of the bear zerg who is capable of benching several nerds at any one time.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 13 2010 23:55 GMT
#58
On May 14 2010 08:48 AmstAff wrote:
i thought its a fact now that us server is the weakest?

which sorta makes u respect the US gosus who manage to hang with EU gosus without proper ladder practice.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
May 14 2010 00:11 GMT
#59
On May 14 2010 03:32 Strykjarnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 00:36 BlasiuS wrote:
On May 13 2010 22:47 Strykjarnet wrote:
On May 13 2010 15:39 samuraibael wrote:
I dont know why people persist in using rank as a measure. Its utterly meaningless. Just use rating.


Rank is rating sorted. If you use rank it means you are using rating as a measure. I don't understand what you mean.


wrong.

Rank is rating sorted by division. Big difference there.


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766800567&sid=5000&pageNo=2

"As far as comparison across divisions it's certainly something we've considered but there are issues, such that the rankings in one division don't directly translate to the other divisions. So you couldn't compare division 10 to division 48 and compare one player's points to another."

Rating is internal to each division, you can't compare rating between divisions. Rating is a bad way to compare players. Rank says your place in your division, same thing as your rating does. The only stats Blizzard gives us which are useful are your wins and loses afaik.


I don't know why I bother, but...

Ratings are accurate measures of skill. You play matches vs the bnet population at large, not only with those in your division. One's division has no bearing on rating. One's division does have a bearing on rank, as being in a new division or one with weaker/inactive players makes it easy to obtain high ranks with a low rating.

In summary:

Rank is dependent on rating and division. Divisions are arbitrarily constructed, rendering rank useless.

Rating is independent of division and is drawn from an increasingly large pool of players (as you play more games).
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 14 2010 03:33 GMT
#60
On May 14 2010 00:54 Konsume wrote:
huummm... I play zerg exclusively for about 3weeks now and:

I'm 1550ish US PLAT and having maximum trouble against Terran

I'm 1620ish ASIA PLAT and having no trouble against Terran only some Zerg players


and I'm around 1200ish EU PLAT and having SUPER HUGE trouble against Terran!

So imo.... EU > US > ASIA at laest for terran players


im sorry but i find this very hard to believe
you're nearly top 250ish on asia
yet you're hardly top 800 on US
(far fewer people play on beta on asia servers, about ~40 plat divisions as opposed to the 120+ on US)
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