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stockton
Profile Joined March 2010
United States128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 01:45:46
April 06 2010 01:45 GMT
#81
On April 06 2010 10:22 Antimage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 10:17 Chen wrote:
The compilation of all divisions has 5 protoss and 6 terran in the top 25(vs 11 zerg) and 12 toss/13 terran in the top 50 vs 21 zerg.
this game is completely balanced and ready for launch i see
so 44% of the top 25 and 42% of the top 50 is zerg, yet zerg players still claim that T is the most OP race?


it's not including all divisions yet...


also these statistics neither prove nor disprove balance. there are too many other variables involved.

what if the game is perfectly balanced (obviously not doable, but for the sake of argument go with me) and all the top players play terran (for no reason, just cause everyone likes the way plays, its not over powered it's just preference)? now what would the statistics look like for the top 50 then?

100% Terran
0% Protoss
0% Zerg


TERRAN SO OVERPOWERED GAME IS IMBAAAA.

not true as one of the conditions of this problem is that the game is perfectly balanced.

see the issue here? 50 is too small of a sample to make any real statements about balance. In any group of 50 there is likely to be some preference that prevails, and for no other reason than just variance.

of course this example is way over the top, but you should get the point.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
April 06 2010 01:53 GMT
#82
add more divisions plz, 2-3 ppl have posted a link to pratically all the friends u need to add to get all the divisions up to like 25
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
Gibybo
Profile Joined May 2007
United States229 Posts
April 06 2010 01:55 GMT
#83
On April 06 2010 10:53 HuK wrote:
add more divisions plz, 2-3 ppl have posted a link to pratically all the friends u need to add to get all the divisions up to like 25


Working on it I am trying to get win/loss records and a few bugs worked out first.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
April 06 2010 02:07 GMT
#84
Will you ever expand to gold, silver, and copper leagues?
Tamerlane
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada424 Posts
April 06 2010 02:17 GMT
#85
Well done sir!

A feature I would really like to see is an option display the number of players per page we want : 10/20/50/all or something like that.

Keep up the good work!
Gibybo
Profile Joined May 2007
United States229 Posts
April 06 2010 02:17 GMT
#86
On April 06 2010 11:07 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Will you ever expand to gold, silver, and copper leagues?


That is my plan, yes.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
April 06 2010 02:22 GMT
#87
On April 06 2010 10:53 HuK wrote:
add more divisions plz, 2-3 ppl have posted a link to pratically all the friends u need to add to get all the divisions up to like 25

lol.
keep up the good work man, a ton of people are going to really appreciate it when you're done
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
April 06 2010 03:48 GMT
#88
On April 06 2010 10:45 stockton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 10:22 Antimage wrote:
On April 06 2010 10:17 Chen wrote:
The compilation of all divisions has 5 protoss and 6 terran in the top 25(vs 11 zerg) and 12 toss/13 terran in the top 50 vs 21 zerg.
this game is completely balanced and ready for launch i see
so 44% of the top 25 and 42% of the top 50 is zerg, yet zerg players still claim that T is the most OP race?


it's not including all divisions yet...


also these statistics neither prove nor disprove balance. there are too many other variables involved.

what if the game is perfectly balanced (obviously not doable, but for the sake of argument go with me) and all the top players play terran (for no reason, just cause everyone likes the way plays, its not over powered it's just preference)? now what would the statistics look like for the top 50 then?

100% Terran
0% Protoss
0% Zerg


TERRAN SO OVERPOWERED GAME IS IMBAAAA.

not true as one of the conditions of this problem is that the game is perfectly balanced.

see the issue here? 50 is too small of a sample to make any real statements about balance. In any group of 50 there is likely to be some preference that prevails, and for no other reason than just variance.

of course this example is way over the top, but you should get the point.



I agree. Also there's a reason the game is in beta...
...
Zaqwert
Profile Joined June 2008
United States411 Posts
April 06 2010 04:10 GMT
#89
Does this only have divisions 1-11 at the moment? I think there are about 30 platinum divisions currently.

Do you have a way of auto-capturing the data or are you having to do it by hand?
DarkChrono
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16 Posts
April 06 2010 04:39 GMT
#90
Nice job, seems hard. How long did this take you?


Also there's a lot of duplicate entries.

761 Random Nyarlathotep.thewrathful 1028 6
762 Random Nyarlathotep.thewrathful 1028 21
763 Random Nyarlathotep.thewrathful 1028 21
Gibybo
Profile Joined May 2007
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 04:46:17
April 06 2010 04:44 GMT
#91
On April 06 2010 13:10 Zaqwert wrote:
Does this only have divisions 1-11 at the moment? I think there are about 30 platinum divisions currently.

Do you have a way of auto-capturing the data or are you having to do it by hand?


Yes it only has 1-11, it will have quite a bit more as soon as I get win/losses working so I can update again.

I am extracting the data from the SC2.exe process memory..

On April 06 2010 13:39 DarkChrono wrote:
Nice job, seems hard. How long did this take you?

Off and on for a week. The hard part was just figuring out how to do it - after that it's not too bad at all.

Also there's a lot of duplicate entries.

761 Random Nyarlathotep.thewrathful 1028 6
762 Random Nyarlathotep.thewrathful 1028 21
763 Random Nyarlathotep.thewrathful 1028 21

Yeah these will hopefully be fixed with the next update including wins/losses.
nagash
Profile Joined May 2007
Australia58 Posts
April 06 2010 05:22 GMT
#92
Awesome work, I was bored so I pretty much just copied your web interface and added a few more searching/reporting options.

http://sc2ranks.heroku.com/

Updated hourly from your CSV.
Gibybo
Profile Joined May 2007
United States229 Posts
April 06 2010 05:56 GMT
#93
Hurray just pushed the update with wins/losses/ratio and a lot of divisions from 1 to 25. I am still missing some and working on adding them as I find accounts for them.

On April 06 2010 14:22 nagash wrote:
Awesome work, I was bored so I pretty much just copied your web interface and added a few more searching/reporting options.

http://sc2ranks.heroku.com/

Updated hourly from your CSV.


Sweet, I always love to see additional ways of slicing the data
VeeSe
Profile Joined February 2006
United States42 Posts
April 06 2010 06:34 GMT
#94
Nice job Gibybo. WCR represent! Anyways, add veese.veese for division 31 if needed.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
April 06 2010 06:49 GMT
#95
Thanks... yoshiii.crusher for #29 if needed
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
April 06 2010 06:50 GMT
#96
wow, thanks!
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 06 2010 06:51 GMT
#97
Great work!
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
April 06 2010 06:54 GMT
#98
Very nice.

Will you expand to the Euro server too?
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russel
Gibybo
Profile Joined May 2007
United States229 Posts
April 06 2010 06:58 GMT
#99
On April 06 2010 15:54 LawnMower wrote:
Very nice.

Will you expand to the Euro server too?


That is the plan but I will either need to get access to a European account or get my uploading client to a point that other people can run it for me.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
April 06 2010 07:04 GMT
#100
awesome initiative with doing this man . Cool to see the overall rankings. Feels pretty gosu to be in top 50 overall on US ladder tbh XD
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