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March 17 2010 05:12 GMT
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On March 17 2010 13:48 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
It's ridiculous how you guys can be so blindly limited by these ridiculous notions you made up for yourselves.

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On March 17 2010 12:47 SubtleArt wrote:
So the TL;DR version is essentially cheesing doesn't make you better even though its fun. You really needed a thread to state something thats as obvious as this?

To all the people arguing otherwise: you're wrong sorry. What does cheesing really make you better at? Micro? Yes. Multitask? Yes. but I think everyone can agree macro is the much much much more important aspect of becoming a good player when it comes to starcraft. This is the post Oov era after a;; Besides, all the standard FE builds have evolved to counter all cheeses provided you scout well.


cheese requires macro, its not like if I cheese, we suddenly stop and start playing streetfighter

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On March 17 2010 12:51 JTPROG wrote:
Wow. I'm getting the feeling that nobody even read the OP. Please stay on topic. Random discussion that even I may take part in within the thread does not necessarily relate 100% to my point in the OP.

I'll state the point once again.

If you want to become a better player, do not cheese. Cheese usually results in short, skill-less games where the game is over before any macro or micro is even needed.
I'm not saying not to cheese.
I'm not saying you shouldn't cheese.
I'm not saying cheese is completely skill-less, but it IS definitely not as intensive as a standard game.
In short, to get better, cheese sparingly and play standard heavily. It will increase your skills.
This post was made for people to get BETTER while practicing the LADDER. Read the TITLE.
And that is by working out all of your skills, which is best demonstrated in a standard game.
I hope this thread is now back on-topic.


and you are SO WRONG
where did the so called "standard" play come from?
did someone sit on their ass and theory craft and adjust numbers and one day stumbled upon it?
You sound like the idiots back in my physics and calculus class who were all like

"oh we don't need to derive formulas, we can use a formula sheet on the test or we can just memorize it"
Yea and then what, you pass the test then you forget everything you learned in a few years.
OR
you can learn how to derive equations from scratch so that you can
1. actually retain information and learn
2. be able to solve much harder problems applying the skills you learn

By deriving it, you learn HOW and WHY it was made and is now the "standard" and you are able to use the formula with much more speed and fluency

in short, playing only "standard" is like memorizing a bunch of numbers/formulas you don't really understand. In short term, it makes you SEEM like you know what you're doing

cheesing is the gradual road to discovering your own "standard". And if your "standard" is different from the current "standard", then you are an innovator


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