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Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 16:35:42
June 17 2010 16:32 GMT
#7041
edit: whoops wrong thread
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 17 2010 17:13 GMT
#7042
On June 18 2010 01:25 Skvid wrote:
I think im watching too much day9 because i keep hearing same things being said over and over again :/


Hmmm. Let us divine.
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
June 17 2010 17:27 GMT
#7043
On June 18 2010 02:13 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 01:25 Skvid wrote:
I think im watching too much day9 because i keep hearing same things being said over and over again :/


Hmmm. Let us divine.

Yea well i have no problem with the lexicon he uses, but he just keeps saying the same things every single time, to the point where it feels like brainwash <_>

I'm watching his latest uploaded daily now with QXC and that guy made the show feel so fresh because he had so many new and interesting insights, compared to day9's old and over mentioned things that everyone who watches 20% of his casts heard 100 times already.

I'm sure we wouldn't have this problem if he had more time to play the game, of course its a hard thing to do when you spend 40 hours each week for casting every single tournament out there. Which is awesome, but i feel that his daily suffers from it... to some degree.

Kryptonite
Profile Joined June 2010
United States155 Posts
June 17 2010 17:49 GMT
#7044
On June 18 2010 02:27 Skvid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 02:13 Bibdy wrote:
On June 18 2010 01:25 Skvid wrote:
I think im watching too much day9 because i keep hearing same things being said over and over again :/


Hmmm. Let us divine.

Yea well i have no problem with the lexicon he uses, but he just keeps saying the same things every single time, to the point where it feels like brainwash <_>

I'm watching his latest uploaded daily now with QXC and that guy made the show feel so fresh because he had so many new and interesting insights, compared to day9's old and over mentioned things that everyone who watches 20% of his casts heard 100 times already.

I'm sure we wouldn't have this problem if he had more time to play the game, of course its a hard thing to do when you spend 40 hours each week for casting every single tournament out there. Which is awesome, but i feel that his daily suffers from it... to some degree.


I disagree to an extent. I know that he does repeat himself from time to time, but helps to drive his point in. When I'm training/helping a friend out in Starcraft, I don't say one thing and never mention it again. I repeat it again and again so that it sinks in. Also, for those who don't watch every daily, the fact that he repeats himself helps those who might have missed that tip in a previous cast.
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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 20:58:18
June 17 2010 20:52 GMT
#7045
just a bit of feedback regarding interviews, specifically QXC's recent cast interview.

day9, i really really love your interviews, and just want to nitpick a few things:

- "mmhm, yup, yes" while is normal in regular conversation to let the other person know you're listening, is quite distracting in a broadcasted interview circumstance. From an audience point of view listening to the interview interchange, it is kind of distracting

- you preface a lot of your questions with bits of your own analysis, which serves to direct the scope of your questions, but i think it sometimes narrows down the scope too much. During the interview, a few times QXC's response was just a agreement or picking out of multiple choice ABC options. In this sense, i think your excellent and bajujular lecturing habits get in the way of you asking the golden open questions.

- on the issue of repetition, (eg: the expanding away for zerg on metalopolis, and the short push distances vs long push distances, ect.) while is very helpful for people who are jumping into your casts, starts to be a little alienating for me as a diehard fan who listens to every single cast i can get my grubby fingers on. I do know generating original thoughts every single day is hard and nearly impossible to force out, so I completely understand and do not expect immediate change, but I would just like to chime in to bring it to your attention.

thanks for all the free awesome that you provide!
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KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
June 17 2010 20:56 GMT
#7046
On June 18 2010 02:27 Skvid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 02:13 Bibdy wrote:
On June 18 2010 01:25 Skvid wrote:
I think im watching too much day9 because i keep hearing same things being said over and over again :/


Hmmm. Let us divine.

Yea well i have no problem with the lexicon he uses, but he just keeps saying the same things every single time, to the point where it feels like brainwash <_>

I'm watching his latest uploaded daily now with QXC and that guy made the show feel so fresh because he had so many new and interesting insights, compared to day9's old and over mentioned things that everyone who watches 20% of his casts heard 100 times already.

I'm sure we wouldn't have this problem if he had more time to play the game, of course its a hard thing to do when you spend 40 hours each week for casting every single tournament out there. Which is awesome, but i feel that his daily suffers from it... to some degree.



your annoyance with day9 makes me want to punch an animal in the face
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Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
June 17 2010 21:17 GMT
#7047
^Then go ahead and do it, i tried to make some constructive criticism. It can't hurt after 350 pages of praise.

Also i agree with what you said, Railxp.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
June 17 2010 21:36 GMT
#7048
On June 18 2010 05:52 Railxp wrote:


- on the issue of repetition, (eg: the expanding away for zerg on metalopolis, and the short push distances vs long push distances, ect.) while is very helpful for people who are jumping into your casts, starts to be a little alienating for me as a diehard fan who listens to every single cast i can get my grubby fingers on. I do know generating original thoughts every single day is hard and nearly impossible to force out, so I completely understand and do not expect immediate change, but I would just like to chime in to bring it to your attention.

thanks for all the free awesome that you provide!

I do agree that i've heard my fair share of "every good build has a beginning, middle, and end" but in the end, those are the things that you'll never forget and it will help your play that much more.

I would rather have him repeat things instead of saying them once in daily #86 and then never saying it again.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Xanatoss
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany539 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-17 22:01:47
June 17 2010 21:59 GMT
#7049
On June 18 2010 02:27 Skvid wrote:
I'm watching his latest uploaded daily now with QXC and that guy made the show feel so fresh because he had so many new and interesting insights, compared to day9's old and over mentioned things that everyone who watches 20% of his casts heard 100 times already.


First of all, I really like the consistency of Day9's thought patterns. You can listen to his SC1-Podcasts and get the same overall principles, which he has in his current Dailies. And as long as I do not take the majority of these principles into account at my own play (maybe even after that) I am likely not going to get old to his incorporation and presentation of these thought patterns in so much different ways.

Nevertheless I enjoyed the #138 with QXC probably even more than the regular Dailies, because QXC is so likeable on the one hand and as you allready said, brought in a load of fresh thoughts. I assume that _more_ of these dualcastings with players commentate their own play, placed between the regular dailies, would soften the described feeling of geting tired by listening to the same patterns again and again.
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charlesatan
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines75 Posts
June 17 2010 22:43 GMT
#7050
On June 18 2010 05:52 Railxp wrote:
- on the issue of repetition, (eg: the expanding away for zerg on metalopolis, and the short push distances vs long push distances, ect.) while is very helpful for people who are jumping into your casts, starts to be a little alienating for me as a diehard fan who listens to every single cast i can get my grubby fingers on. I do know generating original thoughts every single day is hard and nearly impossible to force out, so I completely understand and do not expect immediate change, but I would just like to chime in to bring it to your attention.



There's honestly no real "solution" for that, short of exclusively catering to his long-term fans. Every episode will be someone's first episode, so it helps that Day9 mentions the basics, in much the same way that when he casts for other tournaments, he doesn't expect viewers to be familiar with his show (hence him explaining a lot of what's going on--even if die-hard fans have heard it for the nth time).
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
June 17 2010 22:57 GMT
#7051
On June 18 2010 06:59 Xanatoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 02:27 Skvid wrote:
I'm watching his latest uploaded daily now with QXC and that guy made the show feel so fresh because he had so many new and interesting insights, compared to day9's old and over mentioned things that everyone who watches 20% of his casts heard 100 times already.

I assume that _more_ of these dualcastings with players commentate their own play, placed between the regular dailies, would soften the described feeling of geting tired by listening to the same patterns again and again.


yeah this would be really cool. as great as day9 is at explaining starcraft, he's still only one player. i definitely want more of this insight from other players. it's a potent combination with day9 guiding the overall discussion.
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wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
June 17 2010 22:58 GMT
#7052
It's kinda normal he repeats the same things, these are his ideas and thoughts and he cranks out an episode every day so he's not changing his mind constantly. Sometimes it drags on a bit, but that's mostly when he takes too long to explain something while you really just wanna see the battle he just paused at or something to that effect.

Anyway, recently discovered these dailies (bnet being down made me look around) and I am liking them a lot. Today's episode #138 with QXC was especially good, keep it up.
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RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
June 17 2010 23:00 GMT
#7053
There is a repeat in the list of dailies. Brat OKs TvP special
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Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
June 17 2010 23:10 GMT
#7054
On June 18 2010 07:57 Doc Daneeka wrote:
As great as day9 is at explaining starcraft, he's still only one player. i definitely want more of this insight from other players. it's a potent combination with day9 guiding the overall discussion.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Well put.
ComaCat
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 00:15:48
June 17 2010 23:39 GMT
#7055
Day9, I love your streams I think I have learned 10x more about the game and starcraft in general in the weeks of the beta watching your dailies than in my whole time of playing starcraft way back when I was a wee lad.

Anyway, I wanted to show some non starcraft friends what the game was about so I thought Day's commentaries are the best Ill hook them up with one of his games.

On searching Youtube I came across this little gem
+ Show Spoiler +

Pure Comedy, BM and excitement. I don't know if you were high or drunk but you have certainly come a long way in insightfulness and maturity with your current dailies (on which I settled with)

Looking forward to your next daily as always to keep the SC2 addiction fulfilled <3
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
June 17 2010 23:50 GMT
#7056
Well day9 isnt a pro caster.

Hes doing it for fun and thats good for newer players.

Dont expect many pro's t come and give tips , they earn money form it to start giving away all of their secrets.

Is day9 great at sc2 , nope you can clearly see this , when he gets exited by some minor things but hes nice and i rly enjoy it thus far.



fyi hes vocabulary compare to the average joe is by far superior
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
June 17 2010 23:54 GMT
#7057
On June 18 2010 08:39 SnOw. wrote:
Day9, I love your streams I think I have learned 10x more about the game and starcraft in general in the weeks of the beta watching your dailies than in my whole time of playing starcraft way back when I was a wee lad.

Anyway, I wanted to show some non starcraft friends what the game was about so I thought Day's commentaries are the best Ill hook them up with one of his games.

On searching Youtube I came across this little gem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKbckGc9KAw&feature=related
Pure Comedy, BM and excitement. I don't know if you were high or drunk but you have certainly come a long way in insightfulness and maturity with your current dailies (on which I settled with)

Looking forward to your next daily as always to keep the SC2 addiction fulfilled <3


rofl
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ComaCat
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
June 18 2010 00:14 GMT
#7058
On June 18 2010 08:50 st3roids wrote:
Well day9 isnt a pro caster.

Hes doing it for fun and thats good for newer players.

Dont expect many pro's t come and give tips , they earn money form it to start giving away all of their secrets.

Is day9 great at sc2 , nope you can clearly see this , when he gets exited by some minor things but hes nice and i rly enjoy it thus far.



fyi hes vocabulary compare to the average joe is by far superior


I would categorise Day9 as a pro caster, he was a pro in BW, and is very good at SC2 still eg. he has been involved in some of the past SC2 Beta tournaments playing up there with the pro's.

I think he gets excited about minor things because thats what makes a good commentator interesting, check out some of his brothers BW casts for GOM.tv, i think their family has some sort of Gosu, baller SC gene
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3080 Posts
June 18 2010 00:23 GMT
#7059
On June 18 2010 02:13 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 01:25 Skvid wrote:
I think im watching too much day9 because i keep hearing same things being said over and over again :/


Hmmm. Let us divine.



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Rider
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands127 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 01:41:26
June 18 2010 01:20 GMT
#7060
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2010 08:39 SnOw. wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKbckGc9KAw&feature=related


That is just plain hilarious! I don't know if I want to hear more of that Day[9], but he cracks me up regardless :D

Also, ninja'd the proxy comment for my sig... it was just too awesome!
My grandpa could've proxied better. And not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead.
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