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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 18 2009 06:07 GMT
#61
I love how serious people take the lore about a game they've never played.

This has been a highly entertaining thread and I want to thank you all for the amusement.

Basically, we wont know until the game is out. I can guarantee they wont be naga though....
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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 18 2009 06:14 GMT
#62
I don't know why bash this thread, I think it makes for interesting speculation (seeing how SC2 is delayed for more than 4 months anyway at the very least).

I highly doubt that Samir Duran is Xel'Naga unless he's a rogue. They were a race seeking to create the perfect being and resulted in 1 failure (the protoss) and one better than them (the zerg) but neither perfect. But the zerg are pretty damn close if they consume the toss. There is no evidence that the Xel'Naga aren't perfect or flawed either.

Knowing Blizzard and seeing the latest work in the campaigns, I know it's going to be awesome I just hope the story doesn't fizzle out, the SC lore was one of the greatest so far.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:03:03
August 18 2009 07:38 GMT
#63
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


On August 18 2009 04:41 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:40 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race


I honestly can't even reply to that. That's how retarded you are.


On August 18 2009 07:54 EximoSua wrote:
This thread makes my brain explode.


On August 18 2009 09:12 EximoSua wrote:
The Dark Templar Trilogy is CANON. What they say they are in that book, they are. There's no more room for speculation. Is this really that hard to get?


On August 18 2009 11:38 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 11:12 Aznleeman wrote:
On August 18 2009 09:40 CoL_Fuehrer wrote:
sorry if i spoil to u guys but if u read Starcraft:The dark templar Saga in the third book it explains that zerg and protoss are the Xel naga just in seperated form and at some point in time will join together to give rebirth to the Xel Naga

P.S: I just gged your thread


Unfortunately, someone else tried to GG this thread with the same thing that was taken from the exact same book with more depth than yours. And still, others don't exactly comply with his ideas, so why should they listen to you? Next time, skim the pages of the thread before posting, just incase you find redundancy.
---
And after reading this thread, my brain now lies somewhere on my floor.



it's not that you don't comply, it's that you're all too stupid to understand what fucking canon is.



Hey 90 post-man, chill down please.

Edit: On a second thought,
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
August 18 2009 08:02 GMT
#64
where can i download the dark templar sega
TheShizno
Profile Joined May 2007
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:25:25
August 18 2009 08:24 GMT
#65
Man, if the Xel'Naga are just a combo of zerg and toss, then that's really lame. I was expecting some kind of super race that happened to love genetic manipulation and tried to create new races, not split their own race into two.

And Humans being Xel'Naga's possible but very very unlikely because it would involve a colony being limited in technology for it to work. i.e. Xel'Naga decide to create a colony on Earth and for some reason decide to limit the technology and start them at the stone age where they slowly work their way up. Which is not likely for a race unless they are very illogical or had some strange reason to do so. I think it'd be kinda cool though if it turns out that Humans were some sort of experiment by the Xel'Naga to see how races develop under different circumstances.

Also, Protoss don't need nukes cause they have anti-matter missiles. Too bad they suck in game compared to real anti-matter missiles of that size (scientifically, anti-matter missiles the size of a jet cockpit would likely blow apart cities, but I'm just making a wild estimate, could be larger) xD

Also, didn't Duran have zerg armor or something when he was infested? Which would imply that he was indeed infested or was somehow able to fake carapace and regeneration? Or is my memory faulty?

Edit: Oh and to the person who asked about downloading the DT saga, just look for it in the library. I managed to find the first three starcraft books in my local library.
sgt_cr
Profile Joined November 2007
Costa Rica95 Posts
August 18 2009 08:31 GMT
#66
EximoSua needs to learn that the Lore of SC is not written in stone, they could come up with some lame excuse and all those books that ur saying could go right to the toiled, but if that make u feel important then hey go ahead keep thinking that.

Chris Metzen is the only one that has the last word on the actual lore of the SC universe, period.

It doesnt make sense that the Terran where or are Xelnaga relative.
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:58:05
August 18 2009 08:32 GMT
#67
well, i'm not touching on Xel naga part but im going into the Duran part.

Like someone said way way be4 earlier (Not sure who but it was stated), that Duran may be an android. I agree as there are several facts.

Duran does not appear to be under Kerrigan's control (Although he SHOULD be considering he was Infested). This means that either he is so strong in psionic power that he cannot be controlled by Kerrigan (Which is the queen of the Zerg swarm, so thats very difficult to find for a 'human'.)

Only Protoss could match psionically (I believe) with the Zerg, so that supports my first claim.

Secondly, Duran has lived for millennias, most sentient beings cannot live for soo soo soo long. Except Protoss to say the least which could live up to a millennia but not sure their maximum age but the Protoss have technology which I believe support their age as well (Since they could put their critical woundeds / living 'dead' into a stabilizing Dragoons). So, its 'Possible' that Duran maybe an android.

Third addition is that he has lived with many names. Many names would require different disguises and which I suspect would not only be just 'human' skin as humans only arrived recently. I suspect that Duran has biosynthetic - adaptable skin (That allow him to get 'infested' and still not get caught and change his appearance)

Then again, these are just my opinions, no flaming thanks.

EDIT- phrase adjusted.
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
August 18 2009 08:47 GMT
#68
dragoons aren't dead wtf are you talking about it, they are warriors that are injured but still want to fight
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:56:25
August 18 2009 08:55 GMT
#69
Hence, i said almost. Zerg usually leave no injureds behind and you know Protoss are reluctant ones to retreat 'MY LIFE FOR AIUR!' lol. Dragoons probably vary from serious/disabling injuries to the 'almost dead' state. The blue fluids /goo are probably nutrients for sustenance and also probably life support or support the body since its so 'fragile' now.

I apologize for the phrase that appeared confusing, please no wtfs thanks.
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causetic
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia3 Posts
August 18 2009 10:12 GMT
#70
just thinking the same thing but a little differently
what if...

a SINGLE terran was making the zerg and the protoss race
he made the protoss prototype (X'el Naga) and it stole the zerg specimin making it
hostile and then they made the overmind.
then they needed a race to treat them as gods so they made the neww protoss
but they backfired and now the terran is mad and...

(could be spoiler alert)

he kills kerragin and is the Zerg Master


any thoughts? thx 4 reading


-Zabestrial


hahahahahah i nearly died hahahaha ...


p.s for those ranting about lore ... here is why ppls are ignoring you.
for war 3 and wow , blizzard was saying in books . OMG sageras was a really good titan then he meet the eredar who was so evil he blew a nut and decided to be evil as well. then after awhile ppls wanted to play as eredar etc. so blizzard changed their story into OMG the CHARACTERS insided the books got their facts wrong/was decieved and OMG sageras was the dude who made the eredar evil, so now alliance eredars. don't trust anything blizzard says is canon , cause they just completely disregard it and it adds elements to the game laters ...

p.s.s

the dreadlord and achimond used to belong to the same race...


Boom HEAD SHOT
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
August 18 2009 10:27 GMT
#71
On August 18 2009 04:16 whyohwhy wrote:
Naga stole my bike



want buy naga?

i sell nagas
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 18 2009 10:28 GMT
#72
OBVIOUSLY xel'naga are just the same thing they are in the world of warcraft:
Hydralisks with shiny golden breast armor.
+ Show Spoiler +
i just gg'ed the thread;-)
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 18 2009 11:31 GMT
#73
On August 18 2009 04:41 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:40 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race


I honestly can't even reply to that. That's how retarded you are.


He is rigth though. This is the story in the manual and gameplay i sc vanilla. And I think the game is the most true thing here.
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 18 2009 11:34 GMT
#74
On August 18 2009 07:33 KaasZerg wrote:
The Xel Naga were from another Galaxy. Refugees from a war. In our galaxy they tried to create the ultimate weapons to make a comeback. Hence the experiments with the protoss and zerg. Duran is an agent of the ancient enemy of the Xel Naga. He sabotaged the zerg and project by giving them sentience and disrupting control to exterminate the Xel Naga. Maybe he succeeded maybe not.

This is from a custom singleplayer mission I played with some gaps in the story I filled in. I think it is a good explenation.


wow. this is pretty good.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17850 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 12:28:11
August 18 2009 12:27 GMT
#75
Adding more disturbance...

http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/Naga

From the different universe.
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
August 18 2009 13:09 GMT
#76
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
August 18 2009 13:19 GMT
#77
On August 18 2009 22:09 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?

You're forgetting that we have Valks too, which rape.
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ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
August 18 2009 13:29 GMT
#78
Mabey the Xel'Naga "created" a 3rd race... Terrans...? i doub't that tho, you never know
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
August 18 2009 13:34 GMT
#79
On August 18 2009 22:29 ZooG wrote:
Mabey the Xel'Naga "created" a 3rd race... Terrans...? i doub't that tho, you never know


Thats stupid aliens created us
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
August 18 2009 13:42 GMT
#80
On August 18 2009 22:19 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 22:09 CubEdIn wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?

You're forgetting that we have Valks too, which rape.


...unless there are too many of them, in which case the game's engine fails us as a race ...they all get scared and hold fire until they die.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
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