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iloveambiguity
Profile Joined August 2009
United States81 Posts
August 17 2009 19:02 GMT
#1
So I got a guess at who the Xel naga is. At least, if i were a staff writer, I would make it this way. Everybody expects some awesome and powerful alien race to be teh Xel Naga. But what if the Xel Naga is the terran race?
It would certainly be a big shocker, surprise element in the story line. Let me give you some of my reasons:
Duran is terran, but he speaks funny and is probably an android. We habitually see terran breeding zerg in the campagins. In the secret mission, it is terrans that attempt to create zerg protoss hybrids, hinting at Xel naga. The terrans we are familiar with are outcasts, so it is reasonably assumed that they are technologically lagging behind the motherplanet. I cannot think of a single protoss technology the terrans do not have in some shape or form.

Naga
http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Naga/
In Hinduism, the nagas ("snake") are an ancient race of snake-humans that brought fertility to their venerators; they were especially popular in southern India. They are Varuna's servants. Nagas live in a type of palace called Patala, many of which are in Bhogavati, an underground city. For Malay sailors, nagas are a type of dragon with many heads; in Thailand and Java, the naga is a wealthy underworld deity. They are children of Kasyapa.

So what do you guys think?
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
August 17 2009 19:10 GMT
#2
Blizzard needs less naga's in their games. Seriously.
MrRey
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
183 Posts
August 17 2009 19:11 GMT
#3
That's a... possibility?

But well, we can't go much further; we do not know. Period.
Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
August 17 2009 19:12 GMT
#4
I don't care, I want to find it out when the game actually gets released... till then, i see them as the awesome unknown alien species
I want to fly
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
August 17 2009 19:13 GMT
#5
That's actually a pretty cool idea.
TranslatorBaa!
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:15:41
August 17 2009 19:14 GMT
#6
The terran's were under Durran's command, and they were probably just ordered to defend that moon in the secret mission.
Also, the terrans were not breeding zerg. I think they were just collecting data samples or something.

This might be true, but I do not agree with you one bit. Xel Naga have to be non-human,

Think about it. That means the terrans also had to create the Protoss, and this game takes place in 2500 B.C. The protoss are MUCH MUCH older than the terran race. They had their "Aeon of Strife" at the time humans were still different species (like neantherthals).

This also means the humans made the Overmind.

This theory does not make sense to me one bit. However, I see your reasons.
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whyohwhy
Profile Joined June 2009
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:16:19
August 17 2009 19:16 GMT
#7
Naga stole my bike
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 17 2009 19:16 GMT
#8
Wait.. you mean 2500 A.D right?(going to assume so)

Personally now that i think about i agree with Duran possibly being an android you can hear it in the way he talks also. However them being Nagas i somewhat doubt but knowing blizzard anything is possible x.x.
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LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1839 Posts
August 17 2009 19:19 GMT
#9
Maybe terran will be the secret 4th race that is playable in multiplayer!
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EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:25:19
August 17 2009 19:23 GMT
#10
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.
David Kim for Bonjwa
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 17 2009 19:24 GMT
#11
Oh god, please not Naga. Next thing you know murlocs will be the 4th race and SC will have heroes.

Naga would just make me a sad, sad panda.

We'll just have to wait and see though
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iloveambiguity
Profile Joined August 2009
United States81 Posts
August 17 2009 19:25 GMT
#12
On August 18 2009 04:19 LeperKahn wrote:
Maybe terran will be the secret 4th race that is playable in multiplayer!


Eh good point, but I agree that it is blizzard, so anything is possible. Also, I REALLY hope they wont look like the Naga in Frozen Throne
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
August 17 2009 19:27 GMT
#13
Actually protoss technology is much more advanced than terran technology. The only thing terran possess that protoss doesn't is nuclear technology.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 17 2009 19:28 GMT
#14
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 17 2009 19:29 GMT
#15
Terran came many-a-millenia after the Zergs and the Protoss. If this storyline wants to make sense the Terran could never have gone to earth then send prisoners away to the colonies.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:32:02
August 17 2009 19:31 GMT
#16
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?
David Kim for Bonjwa
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 17 2009 19:33 GMT
#17
On August 18 2009 04:02 iloveambiguity wrote:
Duran is terran, but he speaks funny and is probably an android. We habitually see terran breeding zerg in the campagins. In the secret mission, it is terrans that attempt to create zerg protoss hybrids, hinting at Xel naga. The terrans we are familiar with are outcasts, so it is reasonably assumed that they are technologically lagging behind the motherplanet. I cannot think of a single protoss technology the terrans do not have in some shape or form.


1) Duran doesn't necessarily have to be a terran. I'd rather doubt he is one.
He said something like "I've had many names throughout the millennia". Which obviously doesn't fit for a human. He could be somehow mind-controlled by the Xel'Naga or the mind of a (or all, or THE) Xel'Naga could be in his body or whatever, or just a humanoid creation of the Xel'Naga. In his role as Duran he certainly isn't human.

2) I never saw terrans breeding Zerg. They were luring them or keeping them in prison or just letting them do as they please, but not breeding. It's not like Zerg could be bred, anyways. Recreation should be controlled by the Overmin/Cerebrates.

3) It's Duran (or his fellows that we never see) who is creating the hybrids, using terran technology and terran forces.

4) Why should those terrans he outcasts? The UED obviously reigns over Earth, and humans have settled other planets starting from earth. There is no talk about humans not having evolved on earth, so there is no reason to assume otherwise.

5) Psi Storm, Mind Control, Warping, Dimensional Recall, the list is endless. Terran technology is totally different from Protoss technology. Basically terrans still use the same stuff we use nowadays or are currently researching plus some random SciFi stuff that has "human" written all over it.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 17 2009 19:38 GMT
#18
On August 18 2009 04:10 genwar wrote:
Blizzard needs less naga's in their games. Seriously.

nHahHAhhaA
XEL_NAGA
KEL_NAgA
NAL_NAGA

lol they can make a clan out of nagas
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:40:52
August 17 2009 19:40 GMT
#19
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
August 17 2009 19:41 GMT
#20
On August 18 2009 04:40 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race


I honestly can't even reply to that. That's how retarded you are.
David Kim for Bonjwa
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 19:48:41
August 17 2009 19:45 GMT
#21
On August 18 2009 04:41 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:40 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race


I honestly can't even reply to that. That's how retarded you are.


did you read the other books? or are you basing off this entire thing off a little segment in one book?

edit: no need to pms on me for having an opinion on what i thought the books meant when i read them
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 17 2009 19:52 GMT
#22
I have to agree with spinesheath here. Yes, the Terrans on Mar Sara and other fringe worlds are outcasts. Where from? Earth. And we've seen the Terrans from the home planet- the UED. It's the same thing as the fringe worlds, only on a larger scale.

Terrans have always been a very young race in the Starcraft lore- they cannot possibly have created the Zerg and the Protoss races long ago. This theory just doesn't hold water- If you look at this interview with Chris Metzen, they want to add more races to the Starcraft lore, not narrow them down even further by making Xel'naga = Terran.
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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
August 17 2009 20:05 GMT
#23
Xel'naga need to be a terran-like race with mixed in medieval concepts such as swords and knighthood despite being super evolved and powerful. People from their race could have distinct features. Kinda like Vin Diesel in Battle of Riddick or something like that.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
n00bonicPlague
Profile Joined August 2008
United States197 Posts
August 17 2009 20:36 GMT
#24
On August 18 2009 04:16 whyohwhy wrote:
Naga stole my Vulture

/fixed :D
Beta = 04/01/10
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
August 17 2009 20:45 GMT
#25
maybe the xel naga is a metaphor for clean living and a healthy lifestyle
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
August 17 2009 20:46 GMT
#26
It would definitely be original which I don't see happening from blizzard no offense. In SC and WC3 don't kerrigan and Arthas seem pretty damn similar. It's like the same story with the Xel Naga being the titans or whatever Sargeras and his buds were in Wc3.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 17 2009 20:56 GMT
#27
On August 18 2009 05:46 ForSC2 wrote:
It would definitely be original which I don't see happening from blizzard no offense. In SC and WC3 don't kerrigan and Arthas seem pretty damn similar. It's like the same story with the Xel Naga being the titans or whatever Sargeras and his buds were in Wc3.

There are plenty of recurring themes in Blizzard games, and it makes sense given that there's overlap with the writers. The corruption theme in particular is something all too common which I hope doesn't come up again.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 20:59:20
August 17 2009 20:57 GMT
#28
On August 18 2009 04:02 iloveambiguity wrote:
(...)The terrans we are familiar with are outcasts, so it is reasonably assumed that they are technologically lagging behind the motherplanet(...)

The medics and valkyries and charon boosted goliaths you know are UED aka "forces of themotherplanet". Is that argument good enough proof of this theory being bad?


On August 18 2009 05:45 Simple wrote:
maybe the xel naga is a metaphor for clean living and a healthy lifestyle


HAHAHAHA


BTW wasn't there a theory that xel'naga are ascendants of wc3's nagas? Dunno wether that or this was weirder
constantine
Profile Joined June 2009
Bulgaria49 Posts
August 17 2009 21:04 GMT
#29
On August 18 2009 04:16 whyohwhy wrote:
Naga stole my bike


haha, made my day, ty

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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 17 2009 21:08 GMT
#30
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 17 2009 21:11 GMT
#31
On August 18 2009 05:56 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:46 ForSC2 wrote:
It would definitely be original which I don't see happening from blizzard no offense. In SC and WC3 don't kerrigan and Arthas seem pretty damn similar. It's like the same story with the Xel Naga being the titans or whatever Sargeras and his buds were in Wc3.

There are plenty of recurring themes in Blizzard games, and it makes sense given that there's overlap with the writers. The corruption theme in particular is something all too common which I hope doesn't come up again.


One of their storywriters once admitted openly that he uses the same concepts over and over. It's successful, so he sticks with it.
Sry, but no source. It was some random article I read months ago.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
August 17 2009 21:15 GMT
#32
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]
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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
August 17 2009 21:28 GMT
#33
One thing we all do agree is that Blizzard *ALSO* have no idea what the Xel'Naga are right? I'll just be pretty damn pissed if they are mentioned but never do appear in SC2, which is what they did in SC1.
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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
August 17 2009 21:34 GMT
#34
Duran maybe... is the overmind? lol'd

The overminds true quest was to merge with the protoss (CONSUME) in order to make the zerg incredibly powerful, or even "perfect". And it seems to be exactly what duran was doing, he's lived for millenia etc etc
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
August 17 2009 21:53 GMT
#35
In the high res cinematic in which zeratul reads the stone with the prophecies on it, don't you see an engraving of what the xel naga look like?

Sort of look like mursaat (or however it is spelled) from Guild Wars.
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
August 17 2009 22:11 GMT
#36
I just hope Xel Naga actually makes an appearance in the game, and not arrive just as the last part of the trilogy ends or some other stupid cliffhanger like that.
I'll call Nada.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 17 2009 22:21 GMT
#37
On August 18 2009 06:34 Catch]22 wrote:
Duran maybe... is the overmind? lol'd

The overminds true quest was to merge with the protoss (CONSUME) in order to make the zerg incredibly powerful, or even "perfect". And it seems to be exactly what duran was doing, he's lived for millenia etc etc



hasn't durran been infested or taken over or something? i mean he was normal... but i mean hes not now..
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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
August 17 2009 22:28 GMT
#38
this whole conversation somehow resembles noobs at theocrafting just the other way around. lol
KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
August 17 2009 22:33 GMT
#39
The Xel Naga were from another Galaxy. Refugees from a war. In our galaxy they tried to create the ultimate weapons to make a comeback. Hence the experiments with the protoss and zerg. Duran is an agent of the ancient enemy of the Xel Naga. He sabotaged the zerg and project by giving them sentience and disrupting control to exterminate the Xel Naga. Maybe he succeeded maybe not.

This is from a custom singleplayer mission I played with some gaps in the story I filled in. I think it is a good explenation.
EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
August 17 2009 22:54 GMT
#40
This thread makes my brain explode.
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Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
August 17 2009 22:59 GMT
#41
On August 18 2009 07:21 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:34 Catch]22 wrote:
Duran maybe... is the overmind? lol'd

The overminds true quest was to merge with the protoss (CONSUME) in order to make the zerg incredibly powerful, or even "perfect". And it seems to be exactly what duran was doing, he's lived for millenia etc etc



hasn't durran been infested or taken over or something? i mean he was normal... but i mean hes not now..


He said Kerrigan wasnt smart enough or something. So he is pretending to be infested. I dont think he is human at all D:
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 17 2009 23:13 GMT
#42
On August 18 2009 07:59 Sharp-eYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 07:21 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:34 Catch]22 wrote:
Duran maybe... is the overmind? lol'd

The overminds true quest was to merge with the protoss (CONSUME) in order to make the zerg incredibly powerful, or even "perfect". And it seems to be exactly what duran was doing, he's lived for millenia etc etc



hasn't durran been infested or taken over or something? i mean he was normal... but i mean hes not now..


He said Kerrigan wasnt smart enough or something. So he is pretending to be infested. I dont think he is human at all D:


Well I remember that when Zeratul asks Duran if the "hybrid" experiments are under Kerrigan's orders he's like:
"Pfft Kerrigans a noob."

I'm guessing that Duran is simply a Xel Naga agent or a surviving Xel Naga.

He can't be zerg because of his age, Wasn't he alive before their creation? He implies that in his speech with Zeratul.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
August 17 2009 23:14 GMT
#43
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.

Then why can't protoss make siege tanks??
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
August 17 2009 23:15 GMT
#44
On August 18 2009 04:02 iloveambiguity wrote:
But what if the Xel Naga is the terran race?


Then Halo and Starcraft really will be exactly the same.
:3
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 17 2009 23:26 GMT
#45
Here lies logic, somewhere in this thread. May we all take our hats off in remembrance.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
August 17 2009 23:27 GMT
#46
I dont see anyone asking this but ... what if Xel'Naga went to earth and fucked a lot of monkeys before going to other places to create the zerg/toss?
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
August 18 2009 00:12 GMT
#47
The Dark Templar Trilogy is CANON. What they say they are in that book, they are. There's no more room for speculation. Is this really that hard to get?
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 18 2009 00:22 GMT
#48
Uh, I don't think the Xel Naga is a human race. Maybe you are confusing them with the Ancients in the Stargate universe?
Brood War loyalist
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 00:31:16
August 18 2009 00:29 GMT
#49
On August 18 2009 05:57 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:02 iloveambiguity wrote:
(...)The terrans we are familiar with are outcasts, so it is reasonably assumed that they are technologically lagging behind the motherplanet(...)

The medics and valkyries and charon boosted goliaths you know are UED aka "forces of themotherplanet". Is that argument good enough proof of this theory being bad?

Meaning women are the new technology from the mother planet.
+ Show Spoiler [Oops] +
Forgot the Dropship lady... she sounds like a man anyways
CoL_Fuehrer
Profile Joined August 2009
Russian Federation124 Posts
August 18 2009 00:40 GMT
#50
sorry if i spoil to u guys but if u read Starcraft:The dark templar Saga in the third book it explains that zerg and protoss are the Xel naga just in seperated form and at some point in time will join together to give rebirth to the Xel Naga

P.S: I just gged your thread
LZGamer "I can get better at starcraft anytime but as for Idra he cannot change his face"
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
August 18 2009 00:50 GMT
#51
yes but remember the zerg are nothing but a virus.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
August 18 2009 01:06 GMT
#52
I can't believe I just read all 3 pages of this thread. I feel like I've lost some braincells. I can easily tell that a majority of you do not know shit all about Starcraft's lore. Ugh...
Not bad for a cat toy.
Zabestrial
Profile Joined June 2009
United States194 Posts
August 18 2009 01:46 GMT
#53
just thinking the same thing but a little differently
what if...

a SINGLE terran was making the zerg and the protoss race
he made the protoss prototype (X'el Naga) and it stole the zerg specimin making it
hostile and then they made the overmind.
then they needed a race to treat them as gods so they made the neww protoss
but they backfired and now the terran is mad and...

(could be spoiler alert)

he kills kerragin and is the Zerg Master


any thoughts? thx 4 reading


-Zabestrial
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 18 2009 02:11 GMT
#54
Here are the people who understand the canonical Starcraft story, novels and all ---> ( )

The vast majority of the people posting in this thread are way over here:
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Aznleeman
Profile Joined November 2007
United States208 Posts
August 18 2009 02:12 GMT
#55
On August 18 2009 09:40 CoL_Fuehrer wrote:
sorry if i spoil to u guys but if u read Starcraft:The dark templar Saga in the third book it explains that zerg and protoss are the Xel naga just in seperated form and at some point in time will join together to give rebirth to the Xel Naga

P.S: I just gged your thread


Unfortunately, someone else tried to GG this thread with the same thing that was taken from the exact same book with more depth than yours. And still, others don't exactly comply with his ideas, so why should they listen to you? Next time, skim the pages of the thread before posting, just incase you find redundancy.
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And after reading this thread, my brain now lies somewhere on my floor.
._.???
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 18 2009 02:23 GMT
#56
On August 18 2009 07:21 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:34 Catch]22 wrote:
Duran maybe... is the overmind? lol'd

The overminds true quest was to merge with the protoss (CONSUME) in order to make the zerg incredibly powerful, or even "perfect". And it seems to be exactly what duran was doing, he's lived for millenia etc etc



hasn't durran been infested or taken over or something? i mean he was normal... but i mean hes not now..

Duran never was a Terran- he was playing the UED, making them think he was one.

Duran never was a Zerg- this time, he manipulated Kerrigan. To what end, I do not know- though it's pretty obvious that when he mysteriously vanishes for the final zerg mission in brood wars, it's because she's stopped being useful to him.

Duran may be a Xel'Naga, or maybe some kind of primal enemy to them. Anything else just wouldn't make sense.
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Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
August 18 2009 02:30 GMT
#57
On August 18 2009 04:24 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Oh god, please not Naga. Next thing you know murlocs will be the 4th race and SC will have heroes.

Naga would just make me a sad, sad panda.

We'll just have to wait and see though


This sir is my job.
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EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
August 18 2009 02:38 GMT
#58
On August 18 2009 11:12 Aznleeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 09:40 CoL_Fuehrer wrote:
sorry if i spoil to u guys but if u read Starcraft:The dark templar Saga in the third book it explains that zerg and protoss are the Xel naga just in seperated form and at some point in time will join together to give rebirth to the Xel Naga

P.S: I just gged your thread


Unfortunately, someone else tried to GG this thread with the same thing that was taken from the exact same book with more depth than yours. And still, others don't exactly comply with his ideas, so why should they listen to you? Next time, skim the pages of the thread before posting, just incase you find redundancy.
---
And after reading this thread, my brain now lies somewhere on my floor.



it's not that you don't comply, it's that you're all too stupid to understand what fucking canon is.
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unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
August 18 2009 02:55 GMT
#59
The idea really sounds M. Night Shyamalan like, I really doubt that the Xel Naga are actually the Terrans. Sure you could write it in like after they were attacked by the Zerg the Xel Naga escaped to Earth and blah blah blah. But I hope it doesn't end up like that.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
August 18 2009 02:59 GMT
#60
I think OP should go watch some Transformer 2, see if that make any sense.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 18 2009 06:07 GMT
#61
I love how serious people take the lore about a game they've never played.

This has been a highly entertaining thread and I want to thank you all for the amusement.

Basically, we wont know until the game is out. I can guarantee they wont be naga though....
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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 18 2009 06:14 GMT
#62
I don't know why bash this thread, I think it makes for interesting speculation (seeing how SC2 is delayed for more than 4 months anyway at the very least).

I highly doubt that Samir Duran is Xel'Naga unless he's a rogue. They were a race seeking to create the perfect being and resulted in 1 failure (the protoss) and one better than them (the zerg) but neither perfect. But the zerg are pretty damn close if they consume the toss. There is no evidence that the Xel'Naga aren't perfect or flawed either.

Knowing Blizzard and seeing the latest work in the campaigns, I know it's going to be awesome I just hope the story doesn't fizzle out, the SC lore was one of the greatest so far.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:03:03
August 18 2009 07:38 GMT
#63
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


On August 18 2009 04:41 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:40 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race


I honestly can't even reply to that. That's how retarded you are.


On August 18 2009 07:54 EximoSua wrote:
This thread makes my brain explode.


On August 18 2009 09:12 EximoSua wrote:
The Dark Templar Trilogy is CANON. What they say they are in that book, they are. There's no more room for speculation. Is this really that hard to get?


On August 18 2009 11:38 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 11:12 Aznleeman wrote:
On August 18 2009 09:40 CoL_Fuehrer wrote:
sorry if i spoil to u guys but if u read Starcraft:The dark templar Saga in the third book it explains that zerg and protoss are the Xel naga just in seperated form and at some point in time will join together to give rebirth to the Xel Naga

P.S: I just gged your thread


Unfortunately, someone else tried to GG this thread with the same thing that was taken from the exact same book with more depth than yours. And still, others don't exactly comply with his ideas, so why should they listen to you? Next time, skim the pages of the thread before posting, just incase you find redundancy.
---
And after reading this thread, my brain now lies somewhere on my floor.



it's not that you don't comply, it's that you're all too stupid to understand what fucking canon is.



Hey 90 post-man, chill down please.

Edit: On a second thought,
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
August 18 2009 08:02 GMT
#64
where can i download the dark templar sega
TheShizno
Profile Joined May 2007
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:25:25
August 18 2009 08:24 GMT
#65
Man, if the Xel'Naga are just a combo of zerg and toss, then that's really lame. I was expecting some kind of super race that happened to love genetic manipulation and tried to create new races, not split their own race into two.

And Humans being Xel'Naga's possible but very very unlikely because it would involve a colony being limited in technology for it to work. i.e. Xel'Naga decide to create a colony on Earth and for some reason decide to limit the technology and start them at the stone age where they slowly work their way up. Which is not likely for a race unless they are very illogical or had some strange reason to do so. I think it'd be kinda cool though if it turns out that Humans were some sort of experiment by the Xel'Naga to see how races develop under different circumstances.

Also, Protoss don't need nukes cause they have anti-matter missiles. Too bad they suck in game compared to real anti-matter missiles of that size (scientifically, anti-matter missiles the size of a jet cockpit would likely blow apart cities, but I'm just making a wild estimate, could be larger) xD

Also, didn't Duran have zerg armor or something when he was infested? Which would imply that he was indeed infested or was somehow able to fake carapace and regeneration? Or is my memory faulty?

Edit: Oh and to the person who asked about downloading the DT saga, just look for it in the library. I managed to find the first three starcraft books in my local library.
sgt_cr
Profile Joined November 2007
Costa Rica95 Posts
August 18 2009 08:31 GMT
#66
EximoSua needs to learn that the Lore of SC is not written in stone, they could come up with some lame excuse and all those books that ur saying could go right to the toiled, but if that make u feel important then hey go ahead keep thinking that.

Chris Metzen is the only one that has the last word on the actual lore of the SC universe, period.

It doesnt make sense that the Terran where or are Xelnaga relative.
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:58:05
August 18 2009 08:32 GMT
#67
well, i'm not touching on Xel naga part but im going into the Duran part.

Like someone said way way be4 earlier (Not sure who but it was stated), that Duran may be an android. I agree as there are several facts.

Duran does not appear to be under Kerrigan's control (Although he SHOULD be considering he was Infested). This means that either he is so strong in psionic power that he cannot be controlled by Kerrigan (Which is the queen of the Zerg swarm, so thats very difficult to find for a 'human'.)

Only Protoss could match psionically (I believe) with the Zerg, so that supports my first claim.

Secondly, Duran has lived for millennias, most sentient beings cannot live for soo soo soo long. Except Protoss to say the least which could live up to a millennia but not sure their maximum age but the Protoss have technology which I believe support their age as well (Since they could put their critical woundeds / living 'dead' into a stabilizing Dragoons). So, its 'Possible' that Duran maybe an android.

Third addition is that he has lived with many names. Many names would require different disguises and which I suspect would not only be just 'human' skin as humans only arrived recently. I suspect that Duran has biosynthetic - adaptable skin (That allow him to get 'infested' and still not get caught and change his appearance)

Then again, these are just my opinions, no flaming thanks.

EDIT- phrase adjusted.
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
August 18 2009 08:47 GMT
#68
dragoons aren't dead wtf are you talking about it, they are warriors that are injured but still want to fight
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 08:56:25
August 18 2009 08:55 GMT
#69
Hence, i said almost. Zerg usually leave no injureds behind and you know Protoss are reluctant ones to retreat 'MY LIFE FOR AIUR!' lol. Dragoons probably vary from serious/disabling injuries to the 'almost dead' state. The blue fluids /goo are probably nutrients for sustenance and also probably life support or support the body since its so 'fragile' now.

I apologize for the phrase that appeared confusing, please no wtfs thanks.
I live by the LoL
causetic
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia3 Posts
August 18 2009 10:12 GMT
#70
just thinking the same thing but a little differently
what if...

a SINGLE terran was making the zerg and the protoss race
he made the protoss prototype (X'el Naga) and it stole the zerg specimin making it
hostile and then they made the overmind.
then they needed a race to treat them as gods so they made the neww protoss
but they backfired and now the terran is mad and...

(could be spoiler alert)

he kills kerragin and is the Zerg Master


any thoughts? thx 4 reading


-Zabestrial


hahahahahah i nearly died hahahaha ...


p.s for those ranting about lore ... here is why ppls are ignoring you.
for war 3 and wow , blizzard was saying in books . OMG sageras was a really good titan then he meet the eredar who was so evil he blew a nut and decided to be evil as well. then after awhile ppls wanted to play as eredar etc. so blizzard changed their story into OMG the CHARACTERS insided the books got their facts wrong/was decieved and OMG sageras was the dude who made the eredar evil, so now alliance eredars. don't trust anything blizzard says is canon , cause they just completely disregard it and it adds elements to the game laters ...

p.s.s

the dreadlord and achimond used to belong to the same race...


Boom HEAD SHOT
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
August 18 2009 10:27 GMT
#71
On August 18 2009 04:16 whyohwhy wrote:
Naga stole my bike



want buy naga?

i sell nagas
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 18 2009 10:28 GMT
#72
OBVIOUSLY xel'naga are just the same thing they are in the world of warcraft:
Hydralisks with shiny golden breast armor.
+ Show Spoiler +
i just gg'ed the thread;-)
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 18 2009 11:31 GMT
#73
On August 18 2009 04:41 EximoSua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:40 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:31 EximoSua wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:28 StorrZerg wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:23 EximoSua wrote:
Christie Golden already revealed what the Xel'Naga are in the third book of the Dark Templar trilogy:

+ Show Spoiler +
The Xel'Naga are a "hybrid" evolutionary combination of the Zerg and the Protoss. Through countless cycles, as the Xel'Naga know that their race must eventually come to an end, they engineer new races that hold the best and worst parts of themselves to occupy the universe during the millennia unil their new "ascension". The Zerg and Protoss are the current iteration of this "rebirth" cycle the Xel'Naga participate in, where the races eventualy evolutionally unite and recreate the Xel'Naga. Unfortunately, several unscrupulous parties have become priivy to this secret information (Samir Duran, and whoever he works for), and have made their own bastardized "hybrid" creatures, and thus threaten to destroy the Xel'Naga's benevolent aims, and all existing life currently in the universe.


So, in conclusion: no. Read your lore.


+ Show Spoiler +
Xel'naga are not a hybrid of toss/zerg.



+ Show Spoiler +
Um...Yes, they are, evolutionarily speaking. The Zerg and the Protoss are engineered races designed to eventually reunite into the Xel'Naga. As I already said. Do you have something to support your retarded ass statement, or are you simply talking out of your ass? Have you read the book?


books* fyi xel'naga are not perfect, they where trying to create a perfect race yet failed. each of the 2 races both posses qualities of a perfect race. thus hybrid should produce a perfect race


I honestly can't even reply to that. That's how retarded you are.


He is rigth though. This is the story in the manual and gameplay i sc vanilla. And I think the game is the most true thing here.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 18 2009 11:34 GMT
#74
On August 18 2009 07:33 KaasZerg wrote:
The Xel Naga were from another Galaxy. Refugees from a war. In our galaxy they tried to create the ultimate weapons to make a comeback. Hence the experiments with the protoss and zerg. Duran is an agent of the ancient enemy of the Xel Naga. He sabotaged the zerg and project by giving them sentience and disrupting control to exterminate the Xel Naga. Maybe he succeeded maybe not.

This is from a custom singleplayer mission I played with some gaps in the story I filled in. I think it is a good explenation.


wow. this is pretty good.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 12:28:11
August 18 2009 12:27 GMT
#75
Adding more disturbance...

http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/Naga

From the different universe.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
August 18 2009 13:09 GMT
#76
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
August 18 2009 13:19 GMT
#77
On August 18 2009 22:09 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?

You're forgetting that we have Valks too, which rape.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
August 18 2009 13:29 GMT
#78
Mabey the Xel'Naga "created" a 3rd race... Terrans...? i doub't that tho, you never know
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 13:34 GMT
#79
On August 18 2009 22:29 ZooG wrote:
Mabey the Xel'Naga "created" a 3rd race... Terrans...? i doub't that tho, you never know


Thats stupid aliens created us
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
August 18 2009 13:42 GMT
#80
On August 18 2009 22:19 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 22:09 CubEdIn wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?

You're forgetting that we have Valks too, which rape.


...unless there are too many of them, in which case the game's engine fails us as a race ...they all get scared and hold fire until they die.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 13:45:59
August 18 2009 13:45 GMT
#81
Never Knows Best.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 18 2009 13:45 GMT
#82
Considering terrans from the mother planet already made an appearance (UED) and had the same technology then you can rule them out o.O Also the protoss already rose up and fought the Xel'Naga so they would have recognized them.
Never Knows Best.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 14:04 GMT
#83
On August 18 2009 22:09 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 06:15 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 18 2009 06:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Xel'Naga were much more advanced than the protoss. Terrans are not.


Unless they manipulated time such that they de-evolved themselves into Terrans in order to lay dormant until the Protoss and Zerg hybrid race could be created, at which point they would accelerate their own evolution and lord over the new hybrid race until they could merge into them, thereby creating the perfect continuation of the Xel'naga.

Definitely sounds like something Metzen would come up with =]


Errr, ok, but WHY? Why de-evolve and then re-evolve (with added redbull acceleration), when they could just remain dormant as they were? How would de-evolving help?

Also, nothing like this makes sense in the timeline. Humans are a new species. It's practically 500 years from when we got to the age of space travel. 500 years! That's... weak man! And then Duran can be an android (but not created by humans because he exists when humans weren't even standing up right), or he could just be a superior life form who can take the shape of a human being. OR just be able to reincarnate in different species and such.

Really, terrans suck most in the SC universe, they should've been wiped out a long time ago but I guess our passion for our race kept the writers from killing us off. Come on, we don't even have basic teleportation technology, or battlecruisers get raped by zerg like there's no tomorrow, and so on. What weapons do we actually have besides from OOBER BEACONS?


you forgot about the ION CANNON!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 14:31:40
August 18 2009 14:30 GMT
#84
Naga means snake, ergo they are a reference to male genitails, and since the Xel'Naga they are more "perfect" than the zerg, (that we all know is the female race) then obviously Blizzard is being sexist again. Where's my lawyer?!
AKA SuddenSalad
BBS
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany204 Posts
August 18 2009 14:56 GMT
#85
I think Jaedong is Xel Naga.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
August 18 2009 15:15 GMT
#86
Wow, I just noticed Xel'Naga had "Naga" in it, all these years...
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 15:16 GMT
#87
On August 19 2009 00:15 ArC_man wrote:
Wow, I just noticed Xel'Naga had "Naga" in it, all these years...


nice fail
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
August 18 2009 17:06 GMT
#88
On August 18 2009 04:24 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Oh god, please not Naga. Next thing you know murlocs will be the 4th race and SC will have heroes.

Naga would just make me a sad, sad pandaren.

We'll just have to wait and see though

Fixed =P
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3977 Posts
August 18 2009 18:27 GMT
#89
I remember reading in the SC1 manual that the Xel'Naga created both the Zerg and Protoss. Protoss were perfect in form; yet the creation was a failure because of the struggles between them. So they created Zerg, perfect in essence; but they turned against their creators and made them flee. The theory about the Xel'Naga splitting or becoming the other two makes little sense.

Duran can either be with or against the Xel'Naga, it's not clear from the bonus mission. He said there were many, many more Stasis Cells with hybrid creatures around - that would kinda be strange if he only were a rogue. He doesn't seem to be Terran or Zerg though - in fact, I don't think Terrans have anything to do with the other races.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 18 2009 18:49 GMT
#90
On August 19 2009 03:27 aseq wrote:
I remember reading in the SC1 manual that the Xel'Naga created both the Zerg and Protoss. Protoss were perfect in form; yet the creation was a failure because of the struggles between them. So they created Zerg, perfect in essence; but they turned against their creators and made them flee. The theory about the Xel'Naga splitting or becoming the other two makes little sense.

Duran can either be with or against the Xel'Naga, it's not clear from the bonus mission. He said there were many, many more Stasis Cells with hybrid creatures around - that would kinda be strange if he only were a rogue. He doesn't seem to be Terran or Zerg though - in fact, I don't think Terrans have anything to do with the other races.

They didnt originally i dont think,It was more or less
1. Terrans colonize a few planets
2. Zerg invades this planets are terrans are just like LOL WTF?
3. Protoss shows up and gets pissed off
4. Protoss destroys planets.
5. ?????
6. War!
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
causetic
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia3 Posts
August 18 2009 19:16 GMT
#91
(scientifically, anti-matter missiles the size of a jet cockpit would likely blow apart cities, but I'm just making a wild estimate, could be larger



LOL



Boom HEAD SHOT
causetic
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia3 Posts
August 18 2009 19:26 GMT
#92
ok here is the official theory


we all know that zerg used to be just larva yea... well the thing is, the protoss could be xel naga's outside form and the zerg internal parasytes who got really smart and one day was like "lets work with the outside form and be uberpwnagepedobear" but then it backfired cause when the xel naga relized that they had internal parasytes they made probes to pull them out of their asses , but , that back fired as well cause they got dumber and forgot everything and hallucinated (does happen when you pull stuff out of ur ass ...try it ) and turned into the protoss. SO now everyone is waiting for that prophecy foretold day , when a zerg manages through chance to crawl back inside the ass of a protoss.

so thats the official theory, comments, questions, constructive critizism all welcome
Boom HEAD SHOT
CoL_Fuehrer
Profile Joined August 2009
Russian Federation124 Posts
August 18 2009 19:36 GMT
#93
On August 18 2009 11:12 Aznleeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 09:40 CoL_Fuehrer wrote:
sorry if i spoil to u guys but if u read Starcraft:The dark templar Saga in the third book it explains that zerg and protoss are the Xel naga just in seperated form and at some point in time will join together to give rebirth to the Xel Naga

P.S: I just gged your thread


Unfortunately, someone else tried to GG this thread with the same thing that was taken from the exact same book with more depth than yours. And still, others don't exactly comply with his ideas, so why should they listen to you? Next time, skim the pages of the thread before posting, just incase you find redundancy.
---
And after reading this thread, my brain now lies somewhere on my floor.



AWw your no fun but in any case thats what is i mean the books were made for a reason ^^
LZGamer "I can get better at starcraft anytime but as for Idra he cannot change his face"
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 19:46 GMT
#94
On August 19 2009 03:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 03:27 aseq wrote:
I remember reading in the SC1 manual that the Xel'Naga created both the Zerg and Protoss. Protoss were perfect in form; yet the creation was a failure because of the struggles between them. So they created Zerg, perfect in essence; but they turned against their creators and made them flee. The theory about the Xel'Naga splitting or becoming the other two makes little sense.

Duran can either be with or against the Xel'Naga, it's not clear from the bonus mission. He said there were many, many more Stasis Cells with hybrid creatures around - that would kinda be strange if he only were a rogue. He doesn't seem to be Terran or Zerg though - in fact, I don't think Terrans have anything to do with the other races.

They didnt originally i dont think,It was more or less
1. Terrans colonize a few planets
2. Zerg invades this planets are terrans are just like LOL WTF?
3. Protoss shows up and gets pissed off
4. Protoss destroys planets.
5. ?????
6. PROFIT!


edit fixed
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
August 18 2009 19:59 GMT
#95
xelnaga= imba
cw)minsean(ru
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 18 2009 19:59 GMT
#96
They are children of Kasyapa.

Kasyapa
Kasapa
Kaspa
KeSPA!?!?

I knew it o_O
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 18 2009 20:55 GMT
#97
Jaedong is final boss in SC2 - Xel`Naga
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Marksman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Malaysia523 Posts
August 19 2009 00:33 GMT
#98
On August 19 2009 03:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 03:27 aseq wrote:
I remember reading in the SC1 manual that the Xel'Naga created both the Zerg and Protoss. Protoss were perfect in form; yet the creation was a failure because of the struggles between them. So they created Zerg, perfect in essence; but they turned against their creators and made them flee. The theory about the Xel'Naga splitting or becoming the other two makes little sense.

Duran can either be with or against the Xel'Naga, it's not clear from the bonus mission. He said there were many, many more Stasis Cells with hybrid creatures around - that would kinda be strange if he only were a rogue. He doesn't seem to be Terran or Zerg though - in fact, I don't think Terrans have anything to do with the other races.

They didnt originally i dont think,It was more or less
1. Terrans colonize a few planets
2. Zerg invades this planets are terrans are just like LOL WTF?
3. Protoss shows up and gets pissed off
4. Protoss destroys planets.
5. ?????
6. War!


Err, at 2., the Terrans werent aware of the infestation. Protoss destroyed the planet (Sister of Mar Sara i think, cant recall the name) because of the Zerg infestation and the Terrans got pissed at this because of Protoss 'blatantly' attacking their world.

Terrans probably have nothing to do with Zerg and Protoss with their origins many many lightyears away (Cant remember how many years the outcast were in hibernation but it was long enough)

and yeah, maybe theres more than 1 Duran out there, working in secret in the big universe. btw didn't Zerg Destroy the Xel'Naga entirely?
I live by the LoL
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 19 2009 00:40 GMT
#99
On August 18 2009 17:31 sgt_cr wrote:
EximoSua needs to learn that the Lore of SC is not written in stone, they could come up with some lame excuse and all those books that ur saying could go right to the toiled, but if that make u feel important then hey go ahead keep thinking that.

Chris Metzen is the only one that has the last word on the actual lore of the SC universe, period.

It doesnt make sense that the Terran where or are Xelnaga relative.


Exactly, don't be surprised if they change this all the time if they think it will make for a better game.

just thinking the same thing but a little differently
what if...

a SINGLE terran was making the zerg and the protoss race
he made the protoss prototype (X'el Naga) and it stole the zerg specimin making it
hostile and then they made the overmind.
then they needed a race to treat them as gods so they made the neww protoss
but they backfired and now the terran is mad and...

(could be spoiler alert)

he kills kerragin and is the Zerg Master


any thoughts? thx 4 reading


-Zabestrial


Bahaha, best reply yet! A++ , would read again.
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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
August 20 2009 01:24 GMT
#100
You fail to explain how the definition of Naga shows any relation to the Terran race.
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dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
August 20 2009 02:53 GMT
#101
Xel Naga created protoss and zerg no?
And they didn't create terrans right?

its so obvious by now, Xel Naga is blizzard damnit.. and blizzard employees are from earth, thus terran. :0
..
EmS.Radagast
Profile Joined November 2004
Israel280 Posts
August 26 2009 00:40 GMT
#102
regarding the topic of anti matter missiles, it is far from obvious that they should blow apart cities/planets/whatever. The missile can be of whatever size but what really counts is the amount of anti matter carried as payload.

so you can still make an anti matter missile that gives out the same energy as a conventional explosive, you just put a tiny speck of anti matter in the missile.

By the way, present day technology captures anti matter from particle accelerators with an energy efficiency that's worse than 1:100,000. If you want to capture an amount of anti matter that would emit the energy equivalent of a nuke when it annihilates, you would need to invest 100,000 times the energy output of that nuke into producing it in the first place!

If P have energy sources of practically inifinite power and/or much more efficient means of collecting anti-matter (like 1:10 or better), then I suppose it could make more sense to use it as a weapon.
I know its not THREE-DEE!!
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
August 26 2009 00:53 GMT
#103
On August 20 2009 11:53 dinmsab wrote:
Xel Naga created protoss and zerg no?
And they didn't create terrans right?

its so obvious by now, Xel Naga is blizzard damnit.. and blizzard employees are from earth, thus terran. :0


All hail, LEADER OF THE XEL NAGA!!!!
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Let them say we lived in the time of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. Let them say we lived in the time of Nal_rA, Dreamer of Protoss. Let them say we lived in the time of Savior, Master of the Zerg.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
August 26 2009 01:15 GMT
#104
On August 26 2009 09:53 Khaymus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 11:53 dinmsab wrote:
Xel Naga created protoss and zerg no?
And they didn't create terrans right?

its so obvious by now, Xel Naga is blizzard damnit.. and blizzard employees are from earth, thus terran. :0


All hail, LEADER OF THE XEL NAGA!!!!
+ Show Spoiler +

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/migration/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/19/mike_morhaim.jpg

i was expecting a Dustin Browder pic =P
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
August 26 2009 01:40 GMT
#105
"assumed that they are technologically lagging behind the motherplanet" aren't the humans from earth the ones who come in brood war?
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain346 Posts
August 26 2009 01:52 GMT
#106
doesnt like sound like hitler? xd
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
August 26 2009 02:23 GMT
#107
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
redneck_mike
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States124 Posts
August 28 2009 15:45 GMT
#108
jaedong was the second creation of the xelnaga
im the only person i know of to overuse scouts
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 28 2009 20:16 GMT
#109
Didnt read it through, but I read the book (Shadow of the Xel'naga??) so I know it... (unless book lies xD)

Anyways, The Xel'Naga created the protoss, but when they tried to make contact the early protoss attacked them, so the Xel'Naga fled, to make the Zerg which eventually would destroy them.

Thats a summary of what they've done. (according to the book, that is)
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