[D] Dealing with the new reaper in ZvT - Page 2

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Germany1338 Posts

December 08 2012 10:16 GMT

#21

i like the idea of gasless queens + spines into mutas much more than the roach idea. the reaper will almost always scout the roach warren and since they already have teclabs on the rax they just build a bunker with 2 marauder in it and be fine.

1 spine per base + 6 queens should be enough if they really commit to reaper.

madespecifically

39 Posts

December 08 2012 10:47 GMT

#22

Masters terran here (WOL and HOTS). I do open sometimes into speed reapers and have trouble doing damage vs a bigger number of queens. Sure, roaches will make me pull back, but I think it is too big of an investment for the zerg unless he wants to do a counterpush. If you just do 3 queens more (so 6), you will be safe against any number of reapers that can come at you in early game. As a plus, you will be safe from banshee harrass and have more creep spread. Fast lings can also do a quick catch, and would rate them 2-nd as my least favorite unit to deal with when i am using reapers. A thing to note is a single spine on each base will slow the reapers down a ton, as they are not the reapers from wol when dealing with buildings.

One negative consequence for terran from going mass reaper in early game is very delayed tech as reapers are objectively high gas maintenance. You can almost bet the terran is going to do 3cc fairly soon, and punish him with roach ling or even roach ling bling. If you micro correctly, the 3 to 4 widow mines he has are not going to save him, nor the single banshee. Even if you can't kill him, you are going to prevent him mine from his natural, so I think it is worth it.

nash.eu

Germany22 Posts

December 08 2012 12:10 GMT

#23

huu pretty surprised, in the early wol days the transition from mass reaper was like 8 rax marines with slow tech,
but not some kind of fast factoryplay. You can expand pretty well with reapers aswell as adding more rax,
though playing bio seems more reasonable to me. But this is only theorycraft, maybe things changed.

Hetz

196 Posts

December 08 2012 16:30 GMT

#24

Slow lings and drones will do the job.

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