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Hey all!
Ive received my beta key two days ago. Even though i can play mostly lagg free on the north american server in WoL, its impossible for me to play the HotS beta. I dont mean the usual delay which is quite usual, i mean lagg spikes which occure every 2-3 seconds, which makes it impossible for me to micro/macro correctly. I have a very good computer and play on low settings, fps are NOT the issue of those laggs, neither is my connection. I dont know what i shall try to fix that. Ive also tried to search via google and teamliquid, unfortunately i couldnt find something which helped me.
If anyone knows how to fix that, please answer  Thanks!
WoL still runs laggfree btw
update 19/11
Regards the things you guys answered so far:
- i tried the chat channel thing, it didnt work
- on the one hand i think its a server issue because some people are having laggs for two days now who had no laggs before. on the other hand i dont think its a server thing because many people from europe, especially from uk, dont experience those damn spikes. and that issue has nothing to do with too weak cpu or memory, im pretty sure about that.
what does that tell us? i dont know.. T_T
update 26/12
Hey dudes. About 3 weeks ago the lagg disappeared for me. I just have a little bit of latency like i was playing on the NA server on WoL, but no laggs or spikes. I hope the problem is solved for you guys too.
update 22/01
For one week i have had spikes (a few every minute), most people i know have the same problem. I guess the servers are a little bit overstretched :-(
update 27/01
Ive experienced stutter-step laggs (it feels like FPS is dropping hugely, even tho FPS are allright) in addition to the delay and the spikes for a few days now. It gets more and more unplayable in my opinion
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Same here .... 
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It seems to be the same for everyone in Europe as far as I can tell. I don't know how those things work but they seem to use crap servers for HotS.
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I don´t think you can fix it. I have the same problem, apart from a delay of 2000ms.... I guess this is on Blizzards part. I hope that they´ll activate a Europe server soon, since everyone potentially has a beta key now.
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Im pretty sure not everyone from EU has those problems. I spoke to some people in the public chat yesterday, some of them were from EU and claimed that they dont have those issues. It has to be something else i think.
Dammit i was looking forward to that beta so much.. and now.. T_T
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It depends of who u play against.
If you are european, and play an european player, u will have the same ping than in WoL.
If you are european, and play an west-cost american, u will have a lot of delay, same with asian players.
So, for me, the better solution atm is to play afternoon, when it's morning in america, and night in asia.
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I'll try that this evening. But do you mean just the delay or also the lagg? I dont mind the huge delay tbh, the spikes where i cant do anything for ~2 ingame secs are the annoying thing
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On November 18 2012 19:47 yolteotl wrote:
It depends of who u play against.
If you are european, and play an european player, u will have the same ping than in WoL.
If you are european, and play an west-cost american, u will have a lot of delay, same with asian players.
So, for me, the better solution atm is to play afternoon, when it's morning in america, and night in asia.
I don't find I have any difference when I play with Koreans or with anyone else. I think it makes no difference where your opponent is from, because both your computer still have to communicate with the server each time you make an action.
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I play from Europe and must say I have no such problems. Occasionally will lag a bit but nothing like you mention. But as mentioned I think it depends on who you play.
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Leave chat channels containing a lot of people when playing...
I had lags with those at start of the beta.
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i did also read about closing the chatchannels which didnt help in that case. in all of the 10 games i played i had the same terrible laggspikes, it didnt matter against who i was playing
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I have this occasionally but it will happen 2-3 times a game ten disappear. Attributed it down to bad connection, but didnt make me feel any better when my Vikings skipped ahead in time and ended up floating right into a stalker colossus ball and getting me owned...
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well i don t have chatchannels opened
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I got the same problem. I'm from germany and my internet and pc are fine. But every 2-3 seconds i also get some little lags / spikes, call it what u want. I cant play properly and found no solution. This is so ****** annoying, i was so happy when i got my key 2 weeks ago and now i cant play so sad. Hopefully blizzard will fix it when nobody else has an idea
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I've been in beta for a couple of months and started getting mad lag a couple of days ago. I'm sure now that wcs is over, they'll be able to look into this
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Most of the time it's not that bad but I definitely have lag, some games it's so much I just gg. But it's to be expected, this is a beta and they propably don't want to dedicate that many servers just for testing.
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HoTS is completely unplayable for me as well.
Huge lag spikes, and 1000ms delay.
I'm playing from Europe, mostly against Europeans. If it's possible they should open up a new server because of the huge expanse in beta key access.
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yeah feels pretty laggy specially when you switch hotkey and wathc workers in looks pretty laggy, even though I have like 150FPS lol
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
I haven't really seen these issues too much, seems just like when I play WoL to me.
I've seen the odd person complaining about it in chats, perhaps its a local thing?
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im from the UK and have no such issues, its just like playing on my WoL US account. If anything its actually smoother in beta
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I also have lag, no spikes just a delay between 1000-1500 ms. I live in toronto so eastern NA, I'm assuming the server is with blizz in anaheim but it is still a ridiculous amount of lag compared to WOL where i don't get anymore latency than the built in 200ms or w/e it is.
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personally i get rally point delays, whenever i rally anything it takes a little bit for the rally to show up whether its units or workers, the game itself isnt lagging for me but this delay is pretty annoying. I just got the beta, is this like this for everyone?
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On November 19 2012 03:20 ENM_Alexb wrote:
personally i get rally point delays, whenever i rally anything it takes a little bit for the rally to show up whether its units or workers, the game itself isnt lagging for me but this delay is pretty annoying. I just got the beta, is this like this for everyone?
A lot of people immediately say the delay is because of the game downloading while you play which you might wanna see if that is the case by just opening the launcher and waiting for the game to completely finish downloading. I did that but there is still a ton of delay for me, but finishing the download helps in most cases.
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if you close all your chats it might help. I till get lag but if I close the chat boxes some of the random studders go away
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The lag used to be ridiculously high (two days ago). Now it's not as bad I feel.
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But i wonder why some people can play without issues, and why some like most of us got lags / spikes that sucks Bros :D
*Edit
Also in my 5 Placementmatches, everything was fine, just one day later the spikes started and from that point on they stayed
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same stuff for me. im from germany and did play with nearly no lag the past 2 weeks. but since they announced the release date and so many ppl got a key due to pre-ordering it lags so much that it is unplayable.
hope theyll give some more servers to it cuz right now i dont wanna play WoL anymore :/
but its still kinda strange because when i watch whiteras stream it seems not to lag for him at all...
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y, i wondered the same. WR can play fine with nearly no lags and absolutely no spikes but we suffer, why ?! T_T
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i got the same issue.. having lag spikes, and sudden MS peaks of 1.3k..
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As long as it's a server issue I'm perfectly fine. The only thing I would be worried about is the problem being permanent due to local stuff (like increased memory/CUP usage or whatever the fuck). I'm not concerned with anything that doesn't work during the beta, I just want to make sure I'm not gonna need a new computer.
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Seems there is no issue from UK.
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same here it happened the last days, a lot of people play the beta now cause before the pre-order about 800 games was played at the server and if you see now, its at the home page when you log in, there are 2500.
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i experienced the same lag spikes! it started 2 days ago. The week before was completly fine! I don´t know what happend! Maybe it has something to do with the pre-order Beta-keys! I guess there are a lot of new players on the server now!
I hope they are going to fix that issure fast!
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Pls Blizzard, set up more servers T_T
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I haven't had problem either, only 1 game when I was playing against someone in Brazil I had like few lag spikes here and there, today I played against someone in Korea and it worked flawless.
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I do encouter these problems too and they are pretty annoying.
I tried to ping the server HotS connects to, and i get 200ms ping.
The server seems to be located in the US (i did a traceroute on it).
I find it very difficult to micro and macro correctly with such ping.
Everything action is delayed and i am having such a hard time handling misclicks that i can't focus on my game plan and transitions anymore.
It's really frustrating. I am thinking of switching back to WoL until this gets better
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Yesterday it was fine for me O.o need to test it today T_T :D
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I just tried the HotS beta again, it runs laggfree. Minimum spikes sometimes.
Is the problem solved for the other guys too?
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i had those problems with the US Client. i downloaded the german client and the laggs where gone... idk if this helps for you
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I haven't played in a bit because so many people are just doing wol builds/allins but I had no lag issues even when playing vs koreans.
The only thing that ever gave me lag spikes in hots was leaving chat channels open while playing.
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I have absolutely no lag issues at all when playing hots. I have played against a few american friends, no lag at all.
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i had mayor lag spikes last few games.. i thought maybe it could be my connection, but don't got any lag in wol..
having about 1.9k ms spikes
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A preview of Global Play.
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I have a feeling that it's because of global play and being matched with people all over the world? I too get pretty noticeably lag spikes every few seconds that I've never had in WoL. Although I have played some people with korean names and it didn't seem different but it's hard to judge really.
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I have 1s to 2s delay actions, its unplayable right now
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Having biiig lag problems, too.
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It's really hard to test new units and strats when you're lagging/freezing every 5-10s. Playing from EU, no problems with WoL.
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Absolutely unplayable here too. Constant 1000ms latency, is the server even located in the EU?
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Yep me 2. Sometimes i will be fine, and experience a massivve spike at random times, even when nothings happening, or i will have a game thatv lags a bit the whole time, and i DC and forfeit after 10 mins
EDIT" my ping is fine and it runs smoothly when not lagging, but sometimes the game will crash and close giving me a report error window, whithout allowing me to returning to my game.
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I can feel the latency but its fine to play. Occasional lagspikes but its totally playable for me.
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On December 09 2012 00:28 Talic_Zealot wrote:
Absolutely unplayable here too. Constant 1000ms latency, is the server even located in the EU?
No should be in the US afaik.
Pretty bad for me too right now, was definitly better pre-patch.
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On December 09 2012 01:24 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2012 00:28 Talic_Zealot wrote:
Absolutely unplayable here too. Constant 1000ms latency, is the server even located in the EU? No should be in the US afaik. Pretty bad for me too right now, was definitly better pre-patch.
Yup, that's what I thought. It kind of explains it, but is very unfortunate. Hopefully they get an EU server going.
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I'm noticing the same thing that happened after patch 1.5 hit. Every time I make a unit or a building for the first time during a gaming session, the framerate pauses while it loads the new asset.
I thought this crap was fixed, but I guess it's back now.
The actual in game latency can be pretty bad at times, too. But I imagine that's because everyone is playing on a single beta server, and with all the keys being handed out through pre-orders and contests, and everyone coming back to play because of the latest patch, I'm betting that's the cause of latency.
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On December 09 2012 04:02 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I'm noticing the same thing that happened after patch 1.5 hit. Every time I make a unit or a building for the first time during a gaming session, the framerate pauses while it loads the new asset.
I thought this crap was fixed, but I guess it's back now.
The actual in game latency can be pretty bad at times, too. But I imagine that's because everyone is playing on a single beta server, and with all the keys being handed out through pre-orders and contests, and everyone coming back to play because of the latest patch, I'm betting that's the cause of latency.
Yeah! I get that frame lag as well as the random lag and occasionally dropped. I can't tell if its my internet or not, but I can play other games fine. But, who knows?
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Its nearly unplayable from EU. I would like to play more, but with that lag it feels like I play with a Gamepad... no control at alL!
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Same for me. It's really like a 1 second delay through out the whole match and sometimes paired with lag spikes. It's really unplayable for me...
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Unplayable lag here on east coast NA
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On December 09 2012 21:41 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Unplayable play here on east coast NA
That's very concerning if the server is in the US.
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If I remember correctly it wasn't that bad before 2.0.2 - feels like alot worse than pre-patch. No idea what they have changed.
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On December 09 2012 19:40 roym899 wrote:
Same for me. It's really like a 1 second delay through out the whole match and sometimes paired with lag spikes. It's really unplayable for me...
Same here, such a shame, the little I've managed to play has been a blast.
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On December 09 2012 21:41 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Unplayable lag here on east coast NA
Yeah, I'm also having latency problems (game looks like its moving in bursts too me...)
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I really can't play HotS at all, really tried it for a few days but I feel like I have a 1 second delay. Do they really only have a singler server located in the US? It's just infuriating, I click stim/siege or anything and it doesnt do it for a second or so, I try to split and everything dies, it's just unplayable unfortunately.
Isn't the least they could do provide a server for every single region? why does it have to be NA? so frustrating
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its beta.. needless to say each region will eventually be free from lag spikes. They aren't going to spend the money and run servers in every country for a beta...
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i'd like to weigh in,
southern north america
about 300 ms lag
speculation: many people are downloading the client now that they flagged people prepurchasing before Dec 18 for beta access 
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The game plays fine for me until a spike, then I get the "waiting for server". Then I just have to hope nothing important happens in the meantime. Playing from NA
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Most of the time its fine (besides the delay), but then oncea while there will be period lasting for a couple of hours where the lag is absolutely terrible as OP mentions.
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It's a beta and there's now a huge influx if people joining with digital pre-orders getting beta keys. Lag spikes should be expected.
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Might be an IP routing issue have you checked your ping ratios and lost packets? you might just be having huge ping spikes that would be due to a traffic center... like maybe your ip is tracking through a major import zone... i.e. server in Britian or whatever and Germany has 2/3 IP channels direct to britian. Regardless i don't have this issue, and i have a weak CPU, if anything HOTS is lighter on your CPU than WOL in the
I think this is a eurozone issue probably related to IP tracking.
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I've never had a lag problem but today every few games it just starts "Stuttering" and everyone in the game is experiencing it. Is it just the servers?
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HoTs is just unplayable for some players. For me I live in NA and play on the NA servers and make sure no channels are open. It works fine for me, its lag free but I have had 2 games that BNet dropped me. Its going to happen its beta, I think its just in certain locations since they do not have too many servers for beta at the moment.
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On January 01 2013 01:33 -Dustin- wrote:
I've never had a lag problem but today every few games it just starts "Stuttering" and everyone in the game is experiencing it. Is it just the servers? Been getting this as well. It is only with certain players. I can go 5 games without this issue then when I get matched against the same person twice in a row it happens both times.
It isn't my connection, as I have a very fast connection, and it isn't me just having a crappy FPS because I play on low at like 150 FPS. It even shows 150 when it was running slow. I checked in WOL and am not having that issue at all in that game. It might be a distance thing because most of the time it happens is against names in Korean, but one guy I asked was from the US so I don't know.
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2/3 of my games the delay is so huge its unplayable :-(
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they said they are bringing it down to fix it
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I had no problems with massive lags or spikes until some patch. Now i have HUGE freezes/spikes every 2-3 seconds, its unplayable. Not fps problem, not ms problem. WoL runs perfectly. I have been thinking its server problem, but white-ra plays with zero spikes. Whats that?
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Right now for hots, a lot of the games have like 1-2 seconds delay. It's a LOT worse than WOL and I have no idea what it could be. However, when i see streams it's always perfectly smooth. Any known solutions?
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I dont dont have any lags at all. Just the normal delay. I am playing from germany.
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I'm getting ridiculous lag these last 2 days
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I just install and the lag is very bad
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i am getting this too, im not sure if its a latency issue or a game issue because my game freezes for a second and then skips. this happens a few times a minute
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Yeah I've been getting some pretty big delays to, however at the same time I feel despite the delay it is playable which gives me hope for maybe being able to play on the KR server eventually.
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I also have had some spike issues for a few days now. I guess more and more people are invited to join the beta and for that the server is a bit overstretched
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cant play - too much lags ever 2 seconds it lags.. since today noon it worked great
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Had a couple of insane lag spikes. Ended up losing all my phoenixes against mass mutas thanks to one and then lost the game.
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Tried to play some hots today... Got dropped 3 games in a row within 20 seconds of starting the game.
Forget this shit
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I never get dropped, i just have this insane input delay. So after i click, the command gets executed like 0,5 seconds later, which makes it almost implossible to micro. Not to mention it feels reeeaally shitty... I'm in EU, so i guess it's because of that, but they really should fix this, it's not playable for me.
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Imagine that it will be like this in the final hots version ... I hope they fix this quickly!
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Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts
I got my beta key few days ago. At first i didn't pay much attention to lag, i was thinking it will probably go away. But after few days of "trying" to play i can be sure that the lag is horrible and its completely unplayable, for me at least. Its not my computer or my connection. WoL is working fine but HoTS beta, unplayable for the moment. I am really touchy about input delay, and this amount causes my brain to bleed, hahaha. Hope they know about this issue and they fix it soon.
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i'm lagging like crazy in Hots atm
anyone else?
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On January 25 2013 15:19 Za7oX wrote:
i'm lagging like crazy in Hots atm
anyone else?
Everyone. Beta is on technical maintenance and will lagg, like always
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It is HUGELY lagging right now.
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Seems the Lag spikes/screen tearing is back with the latest patch. Cannot Micro at all as Terran atm with this lag.
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do your game freeze from time to time
and when he freeze ends you lost like 7 secs ?
i solved the issue on sound settings...
there is a option
if you disable it
you increase your performance (its written as a tooltip)
after that i never got lag problems
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I seem to be getting subtle lag spikes every 20-30 seconds, enough to fuck upmy hotkeys or engagements, so I will play some CS:GO until they fix it :D
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I submitted a thread on the official forums, I'll paste it here:
Issue:Whenever you're in a menu, in chat or even in-game, the game sometimes freezes for 1-3 seconds and speeds up to 'catch up' on those frozen seconds. This occurs randomly, not just during high performance hits (e.g. 200 vs 200 battles), it happens when droning up for the first minute, and it happens randomly anywhere. It seems completely random. Troubleshooting:I've been asking around in the HotS chats and a lot of people are facing this problem. Some just in the interface and chat, others in-game as well. I've tried to put graphics on ultra, on high, medium, low. I've tried to disable all sounds, enable all and enable half (my own preferences). I've cleaned the hots cache and deleted the variables.txt to get a 'clean' start. I tried going fullscreen, fullscreen windowed and windowed, no changes. I enabled FPS(CTRL+ALT+F) and at the beginning of the game it's at ~160 and it does not drop to below 80, even in big battles.
This problem does NOT occur AT ALL in WoL, with the EXACT same settings.
It is a HotS problem and not a set-up problem.
Other info:I stream with DXTORY+X-split, 720p 60 FPS 3000kbps @ www.twitch.tv/kalurooI tried disabling the stream and dxtory alltogether, no luck.
Computer specs:Processor: Core I5 2500k 3300mhz @ 4900mhz (1,45vcore) Processor cooling: Corsair H80 watercooling memory:Corsair Vengeance 8GB Low Profile 1600mhz Harddisk: SSD Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB Videocards: 2x Sapphire HD6950 Dirt3 edition - Clocked and flashed to 6970 clocks. Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Power supply: XXFX series750W XXX Edition Keyboard: Qpad MK85 Cherry MX brown switches [Mechanical] Mouse: Razer Imperator MousePad: Razer Scarab
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I can't play also, high latency and game freezing for 1 - 3 secs randomly anywhere.
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Everybody should chill, their servers are under huge pressure, they've released huge patch, invited more people and on top of that enabled global play so now tons of people are downloading WOL for all regions, across the globe, to find out that they suck in those 5 placement matches equally in all regions, even more in KR and leave the idea. It will stabilize eventually. OH yeah and beta was not stable for me even without all those conditions on a normal rainy, non patch day, it's a beta it's there to test stuff everybody should just be patient.
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Does anyone else experience stutter-step laggs at the moment? I do have that issue for 3 days now (additionally to the spikes and delay). It gets more and more unplayable.
The stutter-step laggs feel like the FPS would drop down to 10-20 for a few seconds, then its allright for a few seconds, then the stutter-step lagg begings again.
Its not the computer, i checked the FPS ingame, while i have those laggs i still have 100+ FPS
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i have these. sometimes very often. but whenever i ask in a game the opponent doesnt have it too.
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On January 27 2013 23:26 frostdr wrote:
i habe these. sometimes very often. but whenever i ask in a game the opponent doesnt have it too.
i really would like to know how to fix these. i could get used to the spikes and the latency, but this is unplayable
just checked some streams, most of them seem fine. they do have spikes and latency but not those stutter step laggs
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I'm getting it to. It was fine yesterday but now I can't even play its so bad.
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yeah im getting the lag today. Mine seems to start in the mid game
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For me, I have found that the chat channels increase lag by a great amount, but when i close all the chat windows within HotS, I have greatly reduced lag and I have even gone so far as closing all the outside programs that I normally have had on while playing HotS, i.e. Google Chrome, Itunes etc. and my lag has nearly diminished all the way. So this may be the cause of some problems but not all. These things could be worth considering however...
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Same, playing from Denmark. Got latency and random stutters.
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It was fine before the "replay" patch, and the beta has always been global play there is only one client.
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I've had this BS for about a week now...I thought it was fixed after I re-downloaded but it's back today. It's like playing in slowmotion and there's no reason for it no my end. Internet is fine I've been able to play fine before the last week or so. If it's going to be bad like this no reason to waste money on it.
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So I live in the United States and I am experiencing some pretty bad lag. Not lag like FPS lag that some people are experiencing, but just simply a low ping. When I connect to WoL I have about 200 ping which is pretty normal for SC2 I believe, but when I connect to HOTS I have 500 ping. Why this is, I do not know. Just figured I'd share my experiences to maybe help figure out what is going on.
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For me it's not so much I'm getting lag spikes or anything (although I do get the occasional ones), it's much more so a delay when I'm playing. It's so bad that I get better latency playing on the WoL KR or Eu server (being from NA), my units take like 3 seconds to respond to any command I issue. To put it better in perspective when I'm putting one of my workers on the closest patch he will go to the other patch he was already heading to and mine for a second or so before responding.
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i think it is shocking bad =/ feels just slow and bad *even when FPS are 60+*
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Yes, I have the same issue as OP, the constant spikes every few seconds, then it runs smoothly, then it starts again. The problem is, I have the same issue in WoL from the day that they introduced 1.5.0 patch(was it 1.5.0?), with arcade and other things. Before that patch, everything was really good and was running quite smoothly.
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if you are zerg you can honestly win at a much higher rate with early pools. bc of the latency its MUCH harder to micro drones to get a proper surround on the lings.
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today it was a joke
all my games was like dia shows ....
fps drops to like 2 every few seconds ? every other game is fine i never had lags in hots before and internet is running smothly
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On January 28 2013 14:58 AstroPegnuin wrote:
For me it's not so much I'm getting lag spikes or anything (although I do get the occasional ones), it's much more so a delay when I'm playing. It's so bad that I get better latency playing on the WoL KR or Eu server (being from NA), my units take like 3 seconds to respond to any command I issue. To put it better in perspective when I'm putting one of my workers on the closest patch he will go to the other patch he was already heading to and mine for a second or so before responding.
Yeah its the same for me. It seems to be worse at night, which normally my campus internet is worse at night so that might just be me... but the delay is so severe that it isn't even worth playing. During the day it isn't too bad for me though, so I think part of my problem is the campus internet sucks, and it isn't all on Blizzard. However, that doesn't change the fact that the ping in WoL is significantly lower than in HotS no matter what time of day it is or whether it is playable or not.
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I have stutter step lag, it got so bad I can't even connect to battle net servers anymore. Not on HoTS nor WoL....... I hope they fix this.
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this laggs are fucking retarded, i cant count to how many allins ive lost because i cant micro
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Please fix this lag Blizzard. Losing games i really shouldnt because i cant even micro.
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suffering terrible terrible damage because of terrible terrible lag -_-
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Bad lag here today as well, we're just moving closer towards launch :-).
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To addition of spikes/lags/gamespeedinglowing/laggingwhileboxingprobes i hate hots graphics settings, why the fuck cant i have high models without stupid shaders.. in WOL you can have high models settings while shaders set on low, which give you a nice "unshiny" "notlookinglikebulb" game graphics. In HOTS when you turn set low shaders you have plastic models... and you cant change it.
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Has anyone experieced a significant increase in lag/stuttering over the last few days? Last Wednesday I was playing almost lag free but since then its almost unplayable. Really sad
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On February 05 2013 04:13 JazVM wrote:Has anyone experieced a significant increase in lag/stuttering over the last few days? Last Wednesday I was playing almost lag free but since then its almost unplayable. Really sad
Ive been experiencing TERRIBLE laggs since the last patch launched about 10 days ago. with terrible i mean 3k ping and 1 spike every 2 secs, sometimes even 1 spike/sec.
I asked the last 30 guys i faced on ladder, and almost no one seems to have these issues, just a very few.. makes me very sad im one of these unlucky persons :-(
wol still does run laggfree, even on the NA server. i do have all chat programs closed, tried to reinstall, i basically tried everything, nothing seems to help
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Im in Australia and the beta server runs as well or better for me than WoL (I play WoL on NA too).
The only part of the game that has any unresponsiveness, lag or delays is the terrible battle.net interface. In-game is fine tho. The only time there is lag in game and I have asked my opponents where they are from they are usually UK or other locations which are too far away.
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TLDR: Is the beta server screwed up, or is the problem on my end?
Today has been extremely frustrating for me. Every game I tried to play gave me the worst lag spikes I've ever experienced, the first two of which, I quit out of for being unplayable (thank God for unranked). The remaining games I toughed out, but was eventually dropped from each. I asked the other players if they were experiencing lag, and was told no, so I thought it might be my wireless adapter going south. I borrowed my father's adapter, and while I had a relatively smooth early-mid game, but right when my macro was hitting it's stride, and I was leaping ahead, I get dropped again. So far I've played about 7 or 8 games where I've been dropped.
So, Is it on my end, or is it a blizzard problem that I don't have to worry about fixing at all?
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On February 06 2013 09:23 Prome7heus wrote:
TLDR: Is the beta server screwed up, or is the problem on my end?
Today has been extremely frustrating for me. Every game I tried to play gave me the worst lag spikes I've ever experienced, the first two of which, I quit out of for being unplayable (thank God for unranked). The remaining games I toughed out, but was eventually dropped from each. I asked the other players if they were experiencing lag, and was told no, so I thought it might be my wireless adapter going south. I borrowed my father's adapter, and while I had a relatively smooth early-mid game, but right when my macro was hitting it's stride, and I was leaping ahead, I get dropped again. So far I've played about 7 or 8 games where I've been dropped.
So, Is it on my end, or is it a blizzard problem that I don't have to worry about fixing at all?
If you don't say where you live we can't base anything on the information you have provided.
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On February 06 2013 10:54 DeCoup wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 09:23 Prome7heus wrote:
TLDR: Is the beta server screwed up, or is the problem on my end?
Today has been extremely frustrating for me. Every game I tried to play gave me the worst lag spikes I've ever experienced, the first two of which, I quit out of for being unplayable (thank God for unranked). The remaining games I toughed out, but was eventually dropped from each. I asked the other players if they were experiencing lag, and was told no, so I thought it might be my wireless adapter going south. I borrowed my father's adapter, and while I had a relatively smooth early-mid game, but right when my macro was hitting it's stride, and I was leaping ahead, I get dropped again. So far I've played about 7 or 8 games where I've been dropped.
So, Is it on my end, or is it a blizzard problem that I don't have to worry about fixing at all? If you don't say where you live we can't base anything on the information you have provided.
I live on the east coast of the US.
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On February 06 2013 10:56 Prome7heus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 10:54 DeCoup wrote:On February 06 2013 09:23 Prome7heus wrote:
TLDR: Is the beta server screwed up, or is the problem on my end?
Today has been extremely frustrating for me. Every game I tried to play gave me the worst lag spikes I've ever experienced, the first two of which, I quit out of for being unplayable (thank God for unranked). The remaining games I toughed out, but was eventually dropped from each. I asked the other players if they were experiencing lag, and was told no, so I thought it might be my wireless adapter going south. I borrowed my father's adapter, and while I had a relatively smooth early-mid game, but right when my macro was hitting it's stride, and I was leaping ahead, I get dropped again. So far I've played about 7 or 8 games where I've been dropped.
So, Is it on my end, or is it a blizzard problem that I don't have to worry about fixing at all? If you don't say where you live we can't base anything on the information you have provided. I live on the east coast of the US.
I dont think its about regions here. I spoke to many guys from germany and just a very minor percentage of players seems to have this issue, disregardless regions.
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I think it might be the same issue as we've already seen in WOL where a new action needs to be loaded, causing lag. Consequent actions of the same kind doesn't seem to cause the lag. I don't get how this problem came back when it was fixed in WOL TBH.....
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hi, im from europe and hots is basically unplayable for me. I got to leave 1 game out of 2 because of lag spikes every seconds, and sometimes the game is in slow motionn like very low fps.
Its the same for a lot of my friends, so we just dont play beta...
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On February 07 2013 18:21 sage_francis wrote:
hi, im from europe and hots is basically unplayable for me. I got to leave 1 game out of 2 because of lag spikes every seconds, and sometimes the game is in slow motionn like very low fps.
Its the same for a lot of my friends, so we just dont play beta...
I think the only possibility to get this problem fixed sooner is if we all do post in EU/US beta forums. There is a thread about it but only a handfull people said that they have that problem. That being said blizzard wont invest time into fixing this if just such a low amount of people do have those issues.
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I'm seeing some posts talking about FPS issues. You guys need to be very specific when talking about lag. English is not my native language but in French we have 2 distinct words for the following situations :
- Lag : having a latency after each input. It's a network problem. It could be from you or from the server. In addition to high delay, you can have some spike issues when lagging (the game total freeze for 1 or 2 sec then trying to catch up). The game is still fluid (high fps), but has a delay when you order an unit to move for example.
- "ça rame" (I would translate it something along "it's shuttering !") : it's a hardware / game issue resulting low FPS (frame per second), the game is not fluid at all and it's very annoying an hard to play because of the missing frames.
HoTS beta was always laggy (high latency) for me, I don't understand those people having "lag" since the new patch, are we talking about the same thing ?
For those having some lag (latency lag)
You can try to ping the server.
Windows Key + R.
Type cmd
In the console, type tracert 12.129.236.254
The last line without time out will be your ping to the HoTS beta server.
You can compare it to your latency on EU Wings of Liberty : tracert 213.248.127.130
I have 35-40ms latency on WoL EU
I have 350~ms latency on HoTS Beta (hosted in the US)
Playing with such ping is very hard, I can't wait for March 12th.
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On February 07 2013 19:41 Shade_FR wrote:
For those having some lag (latency lag I mean)
You can try to ping the server.
Windows Key + R.
Type cmd
In the console, type tracert 12.129.236.254
The last line without time out will be your ping to the HoTS beta server.
I did do that. When im super lucky, i do also have the 350ms you mentioned. But most times i have about 3000-4000(!) ms ping in addition to spikes. Only on the hots beta server, not on the NA wol server though. My network works fine, i did check it multiple times. When the ping is so super high i cant even ping the server with cmd.
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On February 07 2013 19:48 doggy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 19:41 Shade_FR wrote:
For those having some lag (latency lag I mean)
You can try to ping the server.
Windows Key + R.
Type cmd
In the console, type tracert 12.129.236.254
The last line without time out will be your ping to the HoTS beta server.
I did do that. When im super lucky, i do also have the 350ms you mentioned. But most times i have about 3000-4000(!) ms ping in addition to spikes. Only on the hots beta server, not on the NA wol server though. My network works fine, i did check it multiple times. When the ping is so super high i cant even ping the server with cmd. It could also come from your Internet Provider or a routing issue when connecting to this server...
Back in December, Blizzard experimented something on the HoTS server : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6160657428
I was able to play some ladder games this evening and I didn't notice lag at all, I didn't know the server's IP back then so I couldn't ping but I played in the same conditions of Wings of Liberty. And the feedback from the other players were also very positive as you can see.
We still don't know why this was a temporary fix, Blizzard never communicated additional info about this since they concluded the test... Strange...
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But is it even possible that is is my internet provider when i do have a 4k ping + spikes in hots (= na server) while having a low ping without spikes on the wol (disregardless if its NA or EU) servers at the >same< time?
That brings me to the second question. If its the hots beta-server, why do only a such small amount of people do have those horrible horrible issues?
It doesnt matter from what point i look at it, i dont understand it and it doesnt make sense to me :-(
The only thing i can say for sure that i and the other people who have this issue do just have it since the last patch came out about 2 weeks ago. Still it doesnt make more sense to me
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On February 07 2013 20:00 doggy wrote:
The only thing i can say for sure that i and the other people who have this issue do just have it since the last patch came out about 2 weeks ago. Still it doesnt make more sense to me
In my case, I always had 350ms with some spike when playing against american players in ladder.
It's very strange that I don't lag as much against european players in custom games or ladder because the server is still in the US, maybe it's using a nearest game server when 2 players from EU are playing together ? It's very confusing.
Your 3000-4000ms spikes are indeed very strange... are you sure you didn't had lag as much before the patch ? You played enough game before the patch to be sure ?
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On February 07 2013 20:06 Shade_FR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 20:00 doggy wrote:
The only thing i can say for sure that i and the other people who have this issue do just have it since the last patch came out about 2 weeks ago. Still it doesnt make more sense to me In my case, I always had 350ms with some spike when playing against american players in ladder. It's very strange that I don't lag as much against european players in custom games or ladder because the server is still in the US, maybe it's using a nearest game server when 2 players from EU are playing together ? It's very confusing. Your 3000-4000ms spikes are indeed very strange... are you sure you didn't had lag as much before the patch ? You played enough game before the patch to be sure ?
Yes i did play hundrets of games before the lagg. I am 100% sure. It also doesnt matter against who i play. I have those issues against EU players, german players, NA and KR players.
Its really horrible to micro with that. 3-4 real seconds means unable to dodge storm or anything else. And due the spikes i have to recheck the egg every time when i wanna make an overlord, because i dont know if my command was sent when i do have a spike. I literally have to make double the overlords than i need in mid and lategame to not get supply block. Its hilarious
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Wow it's even worst than me. I feel you man. Did you check the Beta Bug Report forums ? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/5671339/
Sadly it's a read-only forum for us, european players but you might find some people having the same issue and Blizzard techs are active in this forum.
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On February 07 2013 20:22 Shade_FR wrote:Wow it's even worst than me. I feel you man. Did you check the Beta Bug Report forums ? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/5671339/Sadly it's a read-only forum for us, european players but you might find some people having the same issue and Blizzard techs are active in this forum.
Yes there is already a thread, a few days ago just a few people have posted but luckily the number is getting higher, so maybe they will work on it soon.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7764846608
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On February 07 2013 20:37 doggy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 20:22 Shade_FR wrote:Wow it's even worst than me. I feel you man. Did you check the Beta Bug Report forums ? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/5671339/Sadly it's a read-only forum for us, european players but you might find some people having the same issue and Blizzard techs are active in this forum. Yes there is already a thread, a few days ago just a few people have posted but luckily the number is getting higher, so maybe they will work on it soon. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7764846608 Most of their post is about FPS/shuttering issues and not latency problem like you o_O
I hate the fact that the word "lag" includes boths latency lag and FPS/Perf lag, it's 2 whole different things.
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I know.. the original poster described it right, but people who are facing FPS drops are also posting in this, unluckily :-(
As it is a post patch issue i hope that it might be fixed with the next patch. I dont wanna play like that the next 6 weeks until release.. However i have to continue playing because i need to stick to my practise schedule, which makes it only more frustrating.
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I had this problem since new patch. I launch hots play 1 game fine and the next one begin to have horrible pikes and my ping is ridiculously high
If you are in the same case , I can advice you to quit and reconnect the game after each of your game. It actually works very well.
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I have the same problem as the previous poster- i drop every 2nd game or so for simply no reason. My Internetradio still runs whereas HotS just disconnects me after 5 seconds lag in the game. If i don't disconnect it's just lagging so bad that i sometimes loose games clearly won. I really hope this will end when the finished game comes out- I'm still a bit glad that i am not the only one who has this horrible issues.
edit: I'm on EU too btw
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Yeah, now I drop every 2-3 games T.T. But the worst issue is stuttering while selecting probes, it may looks like minor problem but it is really huge. Beta is now unplayable for me, miss those early beta times when everything goes smooth like WOL :< .
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I had same problems too, but maybe found a solution. i´m playing from europe (germany) with the enUS client. game had terrible lags ~ 5-10 sec. now i installed the deDE client of the beta and i hadn´t one single lag in the last 5 games.
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Crazy lag over here all the time too
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2-3 seconds delays every action haha
thank you once again blizzard for awesome beta servers for all your games
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I have no delay but sometimes there are "network spikes" (press ctrl+alt+f to see if those occur). Is there any solution to those spikes? They potentially make the game unplayable. Any ideas?
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On February 13 2013 15:49 JazVM wrote:
I have no delay but sometimes there are "network spikes" (press ctrl+alt+f to see if those occur). Is there any solution to those spikes? They potentially make the game unplayable. Any ideas?
What helps me sometimes is to relog. Most times the first 1-2 games run fluently, then it starts spiking (and getting worse). If i relog the problem sometimes is fixed, sometimes not. 15 days of beta left, they wont fix it until then.
It seems worst to me in evening (CET)
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I wouldn't worry too much about it.
The entire HotS beta is run on Blizzard's personal servers in California, so people in Europe are going to have crazy amounts of lag until it is released and distributed to the other server locations.
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On February 11 2013 22:41 kuzzora wrote:
I had same problems too, but maybe found a solution. i´m playing from europe (germany) with the enUS client. game had terrible lags ~ 5-10 sec. now i installed the deDE client of the beta and i hadn´t one single lag in the last 5 games.
yea, try downloading another client. i had terrible lag in the evening for the past week and got really frustrated. then i deinstalled the beta, downloaded the german client(played with the english (US) one before) and now it is way better. i used to have 20-25 network spikes after ~6-7pm and yesterday evening it rarely went above 10. still a bit laggy but unlike before it is playable.
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On February 14 2013 06:44 JonIrenicus wrote:
If Blizzard doesn't take any measures for the extreme lag that some people like me are getting in Europe, why should I buy Hots? The beta has lag spikes approximately every 15 seconds for at least 20 seconds. It's unplayable. I wonder if this will be the case also on Hots , when it will be released?
Beta servers are located in NA, 'normal' HOTS will have EU located servers. But still, stuttering and spikes im experiencing are 100% NOT connection problems. I will fucking hate blizz if they wont fix this.
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For some reason i get lag right as my cycore finishes.. kinda annoying in pvp :D Cant wait for the release to get rid of it
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The dropping of games is even more annoying imo.
I played High Masters in WoL and can't get above diamond in HotS simple because of dropping every 2nd game
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Horrible lag issues with me too. I get disconnected from 50% of my games. Back to WoL until this shit is fixed :/
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this started to get really frustrating , today i had the most unlucky lagspikes ever, some examples:
1) rally a cloak banshee then my game freezes aaaaaaand its gone, like 3-4 times
2) do a 3ple drop vs meching player , uses boosters to get passed turrets , NOPE ur drops are all dead cuz of lagspike
3) lets lift that at the last second so he wastes time hitting it , juuuuust kidding and also fuck you too ^__^
4) countless shitstorm of lagspikes
Seriously guys how do i fix this ?
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Hey guys!! I FIXED, yes FIXED COMPLETELY the problem!
All I did was restore my laptop to factory settings (rebooting), and I just copied the SC2HOTS beta folder from my brother and launched the game from there (not downloading any patches) and so far not sure if it matters but I also haven't joined any chat channels (just incase it screws up again).
I'm not sure whether or not it matters if I didn't re-download the patch after restoring/rebooting, I don't think it does though because when I copied the folder before and launched I still got the problem (before restoring to factory settings, therefore I think restoring is the only necessary step and you should be ok if you download the game from scratch etc).
hope this works for others to!
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Pretty much impossible to play due to constant lag in hots.
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