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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-20 16:38:43
August 20 2023 16:38 GMT
#181
On August 20 2023 22:43 RKC wrote:
Spain was missing about 3 key CL-winning players, and yet comfortably won. And they played through the Bracket of Death beating Sweden (which beat US and Japan). England got a lucky bracket and Australia with home advantage was only the true good team that they faced. And they got lucky against plucky Nigeria. Quite similar to the English men's team run in Euro 2020, really.

The English media made it sound like a repeat of '66 was in the bag. And the FA hyping up the coach as Southgate's successor. All hype and hubris again!

The better team won, and thank goodness for that.

England were missing about 5 players i swear lol, Spain all brought it on themselves, all the girls have fallen out with the coach and went on strike during or after the euros.....some came out of "retirement" to play for him again in this world cup but they all supposedly very unhappy with him.

England missing there captain cb williamson, missing fran kirby who is like lauren james quality, beth mead who was top scorer in euros i believe?

Spain deserved to win though, England played poorly and there set up was abysmally bad, tactics awful lol. Spain has the best players in Europe though with half the Barca team which is fantastic, so good they got success.
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mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 20 2023 17:01 GMT
#182
I thought it was a pretty terrible game. England didn't play well , there was a lot of flopping and diving from the spanish players which was disappointing to see. I personally think the referee had a poor game.
Id say on balance spain deserved to win but it was a bad advertisement for womens football.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18411 Posts
August 20 2023 17:30 GMT
#183
yep final was one of the worst games prolly
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2023 17:55 GMT
#184
On August 21 2023 01:38 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2023 22:43 RKC wrote:
Spain was missing about 3 key CL-winning players, and yet comfortably won. And they played through the Bracket of Death beating Sweden (which beat US and Japan). England got a lucky bracket and Australia with home advantage was only the true good team that they faced. And they got lucky against plucky Nigeria. Quite similar to the English men's team run in Euro 2020, really.

The English media made it sound like a repeat of '66 was in the bag. And the FA hyping up the coach as Southgate's successor. All hype and hubris again!

The better team won, and thank goodness for that.

England were missing about 5 players i swear lol, Spain all brought it on themselves, all the girls have fallen out with the coach and went on strike during or after the euros.....some came out of "retirement" to play for him again in this world cup but they all supposedly very unhappy with him.

England missing there captain cb williamson, missing fran kirby who is like lauren james quality, beth mead who was top scorer in euros i believe?

Spain deserved to win though, England played poorly and there set up was abysmally bad, tactics awful lol. Spain has the best players in Europe though with half the Barca team which is fantastic, so good they got success.

feel like everyone was missing 3-5 players because apparently there was a record setting number of ACL tears in women's football this year
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 20 2023 18:22 GMT
#185
Chelsea.... a billion plus dollars spent, and despite laying the blame on Pulisic for your troubles; so you traded him for this guy....



West Ham won obviously.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18411 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-20 18:26:33
August 20 2023 18:23 GMT
#186
Dont forget West Ham was down to 10men for over 30minutes

Also Ward-Prowse is such a good player, so happy he can use his full potential now
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9651 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-20 18:42:06
August 20 2023 18:32 GMT
#187
On August 21 2023 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Chelsea.... a billion plus dollars spent, and despite laying the blame on Pulisic for your troubles; so you traded him for this guy....

https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1693312289657455029

West Ham won obviously.


Did Chelsea or their fans blame Pulisic for all their problems?
TBH I never heard a single instance of that, its more like they acted as though he didn't exist for most of his time there.
RIP Meatloaf <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25370 Posts
August 20 2023 19:09 GMT
#188
On August 20 2023 22:43 RKC wrote:
Spain was missing about 3 key CL-winning players, and yet comfortably won. And they played through the Bracket of Death beating Sweden (which beat US and Japan). England got a lucky bracket and Australia with home advantage was only the true good team that they faced. And they got lucky against plucky Nigeria. Quite similar to the English men's team run in Euro 2020, really.

The English media made it sound like a repeat of '66 was in the bag. And the FA hyping up the coach as Southgate's successor. All hype and hubris again!

The better team won, and thank goodness for that.

Do other media and fanbases not do this?

I’m sure there’s plenty of chat in Spain and its media proclaiming the achievement and the supremacy of the Spanish style of football or what have you.

The FA didn’t hype up Wiegman as a Southgate replacement, they got asked if she’d be considered in a press conference and said yes, because outright saying no would be a bad look.

I mean rare is it I’ll defend the media and English football public over charges of jingoism but they’re way more grounded than they used to be, and I doubt they’re in any way atypical.

It’s something of a golden age for English football, they may as well enjoy it.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25370 Posts
August 20 2023 19:36 GMT
#189
On August 21 2023 03:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2023 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Chelsea.... a billion plus dollars spent, and despite laying the blame on Pulisic for your troubles; so you traded him for this guy....

https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1693312289657455029

West Ham won obviously.


Did Chelsea or their fans blame Pulisic for all their problems?
TBH I never heard a single instance of that, its more like they acted as though he didn't exist for most of his time there.

I’ve heard plenty of frustration over him, I’ve never heard him blamed for the overall fortunes of the club.

Reality is he hit the ground running at Chelsea and was bloody good initially, niggling injuries lead to a loss of form and he never really recovered it.

Pity, actually do like his style a lot and think it would be good for the game for the US to have a true bona fide superstar but I think Pulisic will at best be an A tier player and not the S fans over there hope he becomes/think he is
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 20 2023 22:12 GMT
#190
Damn

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51454 Posts
August 20 2023 23:28 GMT
#191
Spanish player Jenni Hermoso after being forcefully kissed on the lips by Spanish FA president Luis Rubiales during the trophy presentation "Eh...yeah, I did not enjoy that."

wtf
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8656 Posts
August 21 2023 03:52 GMT
#192
On August 21 2023 07:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Damn

https://twitter.com/FOXSoccer/status/1693362524677431601

wow that sucks. did he at least see them win before he died
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-21 04:35:29
August 21 2023 04:25 GMT
#193
Spain is such a train wreck and clown fiesta. Fighting inner demons. Unity after mutiny.

Their run would make such an epic Cinderella story worthy of a Netflix series, if it wasn't so dark.

Interesting to see how the team goes on after the WC. The coach seems unloved or even hated by most players (or maybe some side with him but just don't want to publicly show their support in respect of the Las 15?). Can any of our Spanish posters shed some more light or inside scoop?
gg no re thx
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
August 21 2023 05:12 GMT
#194
On August 21 2023 08:28 GTR wrote:
Spanish player Jenni Hermoso after being forcefully kissed on the lips by Spanish FA president Luis Rubiales during the trophy presentation "Eh...yeah, I did not enjoy that."

wtf

Yeah, not ok. Such weird behaviour
Sucker for nostalgia
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51454 Posts
August 21 2023 06:15 GMT
#195
On August 21 2023 14:12 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2023 08:28 GTR wrote:
Spanish player Jenni Hermoso after being forcefully kissed on the lips by Spanish FA president Luis Rubiales during the trophy presentation "Eh...yeah, I did not enjoy that."

wtf

Yeah, not ok. Such weird behaviour


Sequel: Luis Rubiales then enters the dressing room. He tells players that the FA will pay for a trip to Ibiza, and that is where he will marry Jenni Hermoso. The footage was posted on Salma Paralluelo's Instagram Live.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9651 Posts
August 21 2023 07:04 GMT
#196
On August 21 2023 04:36 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2023 03:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 21 2023 03:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Chelsea.... a billion plus dollars spent, and despite laying the blame on Pulisic for your troubles; so you traded him for this guy....

https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1693312289657455029

West Ham won obviously.


Did Chelsea or their fans blame Pulisic for all their problems?
TBH I never heard a single instance of that, its more like they acted as though he didn't exist for most of his time there.

I’ve heard plenty of frustration over him, I’ve never heard him blamed for the overall fortunes of the club.

Reality is he hit the ground running at Chelsea and was bloody good initially, niggling injuries lead to a loss of form and he never really recovered it.

Pity, actually do like his style a lot and think it would be good for the game for the US to have a true bona fide superstar but I think Pulisic will at best be an A tier player and not the S fans over there hope he becomes/think he is

For me, he could do really well in Italy. Some players just don't have a style that works in the Premier League, no matter how awesome they are.
Every time I watched a game with Pulisic on the pitch, he would try and take on too many players, make the wrong decision in the final third, or was lacking end product. I don't know why that is, because I don't think those things are necessarily a part of his game, but it could just be the pace of the Premier League.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17993 Posts
August 21 2023 07:21 GMT
#197
On August 21 2023 15:15 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2023 14:12 DropBear wrote:
On August 21 2023 08:28 GTR wrote:
Spanish player Jenni Hermoso after being forcefully kissed on the lips by Spanish FA president Luis Rubiales during the trophy presentation "Eh...yeah, I did not enjoy that."

wtf

Yeah, not ok. Such weird behaviour


Sequel: Luis Rubiales then enters the dressing room. He tells players that the FA will pay for a trip to Ibiza, and that is where he will marry Jenni Hermoso. The footage was posted on Salma Paralluelo's Instagram Live.

Everything about this is disgusting and weird. His response when confronted about it. But I want to take advantage and say that those women are not paid enough. I don't think the men's team would cheer and jump around in joy about a free trip to Ibiza. I mean, I know emotions are high and they're on top of the world anyway, but a trip to Ibiza costs a few hundred Euros... let's say they go with the full VIP treatment and it costs a few thousand Euros. It should still be peanuts compared to what their income is if they get paid even 1/10 of what the men do.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3978 Posts
August 21 2023 08:43 GMT
#198
Please, not that argument again. It's market value. As a % of revenue, women are already earning more: link. This is entertainment, not desk jobs. The best musicians in the world make crumbs compared to Nicki Minaj.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18411 Posts
August 21 2023 10:21 GMT
#199
The lower revenue isn't the fault of the women because they are generating millions of views. It's sponsors who are not paying as well as for men but still receiving almost same amount of value

That's a joke
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6212 Posts
August 21 2023 10:34 GMT
#200
If you think sponsors derive the same amount of value from sponsering the women's world cup Vs the men you're delusional. The men world cup is the biggest sport event in the world and has been for decades. The women's WC does not even come close.
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