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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 06 2021 08:17 GMT
#81
Also missed in all the Messi hype.

Part of La Liga media rights sold
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/sports/la-liga-cvc-capital-barcelona-real-madrid.html
GO OG
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 08:28:15
August 06 2021 08:28 GMT
#82
30 minutes till the Presser.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 09:02:04
August 06 2021 08:59 GMT
#83
Starting.

Edit: Well...

Edit #2: Wtf is this music.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 09:30:16
August 06 2021 09:06 GMT
#84
Now it has begun.

edit: Barca salary is 110% of the clubs finances.

edit #2: First offer was 2 years contract to be paid in 5. Then it was a 5 year contract. Cash payments are not allowed by La Liga. So Messi leaving is basically sealed.

edit #3: Laporta states that if they were to sign a player for 25 million they would need to eliminate $100 million off the books, they are so fucked.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4537 Posts
August 06 2021 09:29 GMT
#85
PSG please buy that French midfielder off Man Utd before getting Messi.

Please... please...please...
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2551 Posts
August 06 2021 09:30 GMT
#86
Do you guys think he might to a Ronaldo and go to Italy?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 09:33:36
August 06 2021 09:31 GMT
#87
Barca is so fucked for years to come. I mean 110% of their income having to go to salaries is beyond the fucking pale.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4341 Posts
August 06 2021 09:47 GMT
#88
It's ok guys I'm sure they can rely on the loyalty of Griezmann to lead them to success /s
Sucker for nostalgia
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8614 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 09:52:38
August 06 2021 09:52 GMT
#89
so anyone understand the law around organisations like barca and what happens when they become insolvent?
im not familiar at all with the corporate structure of barca besides that it doesnt really have "ownership". have no idea about spanish corporate law either, or whether that kind of legislation would apply to an organisation like barca.
what happens when barca is bankrupt or should declare bankruptcy? is the organisation available to takeover? can the organisation accept 3rd party investment? what happens to the people who were supposed to lead the organisation (ie. do people like bartomeu have any liability or obligations for the mismanagement of the organisation)?
basically what does the future of the actual organisation look like in such dire financial circumstances and is there any accountability?
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 06 2021 10:21 GMT
#90
Think that if player take pay cut, and they start getting revenues from tickets it will work out. One way of funding that spring to my mind is naming rights of stadium. That should help a lot.
GO OG
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6820 Posts
August 06 2021 13:36 GMT
#91
Holy Moly this Messi thing is big! Can't wait to see how this plays out
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2707 Posts
August 06 2021 16:30 GMT
#92
So according to Laporta, 110% of revenue was for player wages with Messi and 95% without Messi.

That is ridiculous, I don't think any other club in the top 5 leagues reaches even 70%
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8614 Posts
August 06 2021 16:36 GMT
#93
apparently messi also offered to reduce his wages below even 50% but it wasnt enough. i dont know specifically which players have agreed to wage cuts but ive seen reports that some senior players like griezmann have refused cuts. they should hang their heads in shame. when a player like messi is offering to play for less wages than you that is just shameful
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 16:59:07
August 06 2021 16:45 GMT
#94
*golfclap* way to go Kane, piss off your current Club that holds your contract. While trying to play hardball in order to go to a Club that apparently never started negations on signing you in the first place.





Enjoy quarantine. Dumbass.

Also:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 06 2021 16:51 GMT
#95
On August 07 2021 01:36 evilfatsh1t wrote:
apparently messi also offered to reduce his wages below even 50% but it wasnt enough. i dont know specifically which players have agreed to wage cuts but ive seen reports that some senior players like griezmann have refused cuts. they should hang their heads in shame. when a player like messi is offering to play for less wages than you that is just shameful


I disagree, why should a players take one pay cut after the other because the club has been driven badly. If you join a club partly because of the huge paycheck and a player like Griezmann has taken so much blame that he has earned his pay. Heard a player like Depay has already taken a paycut after being signed and season not beginning, that is disgraceful. Think if they want Griezmann of the books Barca could try to sell him or give him a free transfer. For me blaming Griezman is blame projecting. Also if Messi want to play for Barca he can afford playing for 10 dollars a year. He would properly still earn more then Griezmann from sponsor deals.
GO OG
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8614 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 17:13:16
August 06 2021 17:03 GMT
#96
from what i understand barca are over the limit even without messis contract. even if messi played for 10 dollars the contract is still illegitimate.
and whilst i agree that the real reason barca are in this shitshow is because of the board and the players are legally entitled to their wages, they have 2 choices.
1. do what griezmann does and watch the best player in the world and an absolute club legend leave the club in the worst way possible, without even a send off and have his legacy tarnished. also the chances of you being successful without him are shit anyway.
2. take a page out of your captains book and help the club you pledged to play for. help messi stay at barca so you can actually hope to win things on the pitch and messi gets to end his career in a way that he deserves. make a personal sacrifice for the good of the team and for messi who deserves a better end

griezmann is on ridiculous wages anyway. he has been offered to clubs and the reason no move has been secured is exactly because of his wages that no other club in their right mind would pay. considering that he also hasnt been performing well enough to justify those wages, i think barca fans would be justified in being pissed that players like griezmann have made the situation difficult for barca further. your point about griezmann joining barca for a huge paycheck is exactly what makes it so despicable that he wont cut his wages. the club and the fans would want and expect players to play for the clubs badge and to bring success to the club, not seek personal glory or riches.
i kinda think of this this way. yes the club is in shambles because the club had dumbasses as leaders and they screwed the club. but players like griezmann are only being paid those wages because they had dumbasses as leaders that screwed the club. if barca had more sensible people in charge griezmann wasnt going to be paid the 700k or whatever he is on now anyway.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 06 2021 17:39 GMT
#97
Bartomeu has to go down as one of the worst football presidents in history, right? I've never seen the degree of mismanagement that he's shown the past few years
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34486 Posts
August 06 2021 18:15 GMT
#98
On August 07 2021 01:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
*golfclap* way to go Kane, piss off your current Club that holds your contract. While trying to play hardball in order to go to a Club that apparently never started negations on signing you in the first place.

? Unless I'm misreading, he literally states he never refused to show up to training.
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 06 2021 19:12 GMT
#99
On August 07 2021 02:03 evilfatsh1t wrote:
from what i understand barca are over the limit even without messis contract. even if messi played for 10 dollars the contract is still illegitimate.
and whilst i agree that the real reason barca are in this shitshow is because of the board and the players are legally entitled to their wages, they have 2 choices.
1. do what griezmann does and watch the best player in the world and an absolute club legend leave the club in the worst way possible, without even a send off and have his legacy tarnished. also the chances of you being successful without him are shit anyway.
2. take a page out of your captains book and help the club you pledged to play for. help messi stay at barca so you can actually hope to win things on the pitch and messi gets to end his career in a way that he deserves. make a personal sacrifice for the good of the team and for messi who deserves a better end

griezmann is on ridiculous wages anyway. he has been offered to clubs and the reason no move has been secured is exactly because of his wages that no other club in their right mind would pay. considering that he also hasnt been performing well enough to justify those wages, i think barca fans would be justified in being pissed that players like griezmann have made the situation difficult for barca further. your point about griezmann joining barca for a huge paycheck is exactly what makes it so despicable that he wont cut his wages. the club and the fans would want and expect players to play for the clubs badge and to bring success to the club, not seek personal glory or riches.
i kinda think of this this way. yes the club is in shambles because the club had dumbasses as leaders and they screwed the club. but players like griezmann are only being paid those wages because they had dumbasses as leaders that screwed the club. if barca had more sensible people in charge griezmann wasnt going to be paid the 700k or whatever he is on now anyway.


Yes Griezmann underperformed but on the other side have Barca giving Pedri 10 times his wages like he deserve. If it work one way it should work both. Find it ridiculous to blame the player for wanting what he was offered and worked for many years before signing the deal.
GO OG
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 19:36:09
August 06 2021 19:30 GMT
#100
On August 07 2021 03:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2021 01:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
*golfclap* way to go Kane, piss off your current Club that holds your contract. While trying to play hardball in order to go to a Club that apparently never started negations on signing you in the first place.

? Unless I'm misreading, he literally states he never refused to show up to training.


Yet he was in Florida while he had his brother try to get Man City to buy out his contract. I mean his "strike" didn't even last a week.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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