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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27072 Posts
August 07 2021 17:29 GMT
#121
Shit summer to be an Inter fan lol
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 07 2021 20:13 GMT
#122
So Messi press conference at Camp Nou tomorrow at Noon.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 08 2021 09:12 GMT
#123
50 minutes till Press Conference.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-08 10:06:35
August 08 2021 10:05 GMT
#124
Started.

Edit: he's crying.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
August 08 2021 10:32 GMT
#125
On August 08 2021 19:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Started.

Edit: he's crying.

I would be crying too if I was signing a contract for that kind of money
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8892 Posts
August 08 2021 13:00 GMT
#126
this whole messi saga is so wrong. that press conference was so depressing to watch
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 08 2021 13:24 GMT
#127
Sad thing is the same thing will happen to Inter as they have also been ran by crooks.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8892 Posts
August 08 2021 13:56 GMT
#128
who in inter would want to stay in the club as it is? they dont have a "legend" in the current team and with conte gone it seems like players like lukaku are already happy to leave.
its not the same as messi being forced to leave when he nor the club want it.

i wonder if he moves to psg on a 2 yr contract whether barca will just buy him back next year once the finances are better. tbh i could see that happening quite easily
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 08 2021 14:36 GMT
#129
If they physically "buy him" back that would be again bad business though due to his age even though its Messi etc etc. I genuinely see Barca struggling to make top 4 in la liga now...they still have to balance the books wages wise so they are not finished in the clear out either. Messi is legit 60/70% of their goals every year and he is gone
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27072 Posts
August 08 2021 14:37 GMT
#130
On August 08 2021 22:24 Pandemona wrote:
Sad thing is the same thing will happen to Inter as they have also been ran by crooks.

Well no they haven’t been run by crooks, there’s just been a lot of pressure over in China for Chinese companies to not blow money on football, especially foreign vanity projects like running an Inter. The Chinese league has had teams dissolve and has been noticeably less ambitious in signings in recent years too.

Meanwhile in England we’ve got the gulf state team potentially splurging another hundred million+ in this window and the pet project of an absolutely not crooked oligarch as the reigning European champions.

Isn’t modern football lovely?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 08 2021 14:47 GMT
#131
They are crooks because they splashed the cash last summer and the summer before buying all these plays to then get the call from President Xi to stop it and now have to sell them all....that is awful. £95 million spent last summer, £174 million summer before, now its all gone.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27072 Posts
August 08 2021 14:51 GMT
#132
On August 08 2021 22:00 evilfatsh1t wrote:
this whole messi saga is so wrong. that press conference was so depressing to watch

It’s profoundly sad, especially the sheer amount of vitriol a player who’s given such amazing memories is getting all over the place.

Best player I’ve seen anyway, by quite a distance. Apparently it’s his fault that the club was so badly run that a 50% reduction in salary isn’t nearly enough to make the club’s books balanced. He should play for free apparently! Most of which stems from knee-jerk reactions and a lack of reading on what the situation actually is.

To be fair I haven’t actually seen many Barca fans being quite that entitled, so that’s something I guess.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
August 08 2021 14:55 GMT
#133
Apparently even if he played for free they still wouldn't meet their La Liga limits.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 08 2021 15:03 GMT
#134
Yeah they need to get to 70% of revenue = wages and with messi they would been at 110% and without are at 90% still need to drop 20% of wage budget that is why Aguero is not registered yet either.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27072 Posts
August 08 2021 15:12 GMT
#135
On August 08 2021 23:47 Pandemona wrote:
They are crooks because they splashed the cash last summer and the summer before buying all these plays to then get the call from President Xi to stop it and now have to sell them all....that is awful. £95 million spent last summer, £174 million summer before, now its all gone.

Not really, they splashed cash when there was a green light to do so, now there isn’t, and with the impact of Covid on club finances the books have to be balanced. C’est la vie.

Only real difference is Chelsea’s benefactor who isn’t at all crooked stuck around, frankly despite being an Inter fan I agree with Xi’s directive, don’t see much PR benefit for the Chinese for throwing money away at European football teams.

While I felt the proposed solution was wholly wrong, some of the rationales behind a European Super League being necessary weren’t. Barca are in financial meltdown, Real are tightening their belts, Serie A isn’t competitive at the CL level any more. Teams can either risk financial ruin by trying to compete with EPL/gulf money and the inflation it’s causing, or not be competitive.

It’s a worrying development for European football on the whole.

@Firebolt yeah. That’s my understanding anyway, unless Messi actually had a negative salary and paid Barcelona it wouldn’t be sufficient to bring them under the La Liga cap.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8892 Posts
August 08 2021 15:17 GMT
#136
even if it was bad business messi must be bought back asap. its not about what he has left to offer but letting him retire in a fashion he deserves. what hes done for the club is unbelievable and it would be worth every penny to get him to reunite with a full nou camp for his retirement.

of course it would be up to psg and barcas finances also but if it could be done i think it definitely should be done.
and i mentioned this earlier but i dont know how some players like griezmann (didnt see some of the others) that didnt agree to cuts have the audacity to sit at the press conference when messi is crying live on air. they are complicit in barca bleeding money. you cant say they arent because they do not deserve the amounts they are being paid; if they truly deserved it then other clubs would match it.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 08 2021 16:49 GMT
#137
and i mentioned this earlier but i dont know how some players like griezmann (didnt see some of the others) that didnt agree to cuts have the audacity to sit at the press conference when messi is crying live on air. they are complicit in barca bleeding money. you cant say they arent because they do not deserve the amounts they are being paid; if they truly deserved it then other clubs would match it.


Ok if we follow that train of thought. Then a club should at all times match the pay other clubs are willing to pay a player. Because they are worth that amount.

Also its the crazy La Liga salary cap that is the problem. If you need to reduce your wages by 50% because that your earnings dip because of Pandemic. Its just plain craziness and not a responsible way to run a business .

https://www.chaseyoursport.com/Football/La-Liga-Salary-Cap-rule-explained/2867
GO OG
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6288 Posts
August 08 2021 16:59 GMT
#138
On August 08 2021 23:55 Firebolt145 wrote:
Apparently even if he played for free they still wouldn't meet their La Liga limits.

Iric they can invest 25% of transfer fees etc. even if they're above the cap so they can sign him if he plays for free. Barca just expected to be able to offload more players than they could so they couldn't sign him.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4002 Posts
August 08 2021 21:36 GMT
#139
Good press conference to watch if you can't sleep.

The only things that stand out is that he absolutely avoids blaming anyone (which is probably sensible), and that he mentioned about 3-4 times that he never lied about anything...as if that was ever implied?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 08 2021 21:46 GMT
#140
So... how are the new signings able to play?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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