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On April 21 2021 04:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If the Super League dissolves in less than 48hrs the three future Clubs, that haven't been announced yet, will be thanking the sports gods for not being part of the PR shit storm.
The initially invited "three additional clubs" Were PSG, Dortmund, and Bayern, but they all refused.
I don't think that the ESL group had another three lined up; I'm willing to bet that they thought that the aforementioned three clubs would eventually cave and join.
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On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something.
Imagine just dropping this on the players though.
I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople.
Why leave something like that unplanned?
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On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned?
Seems like hubris of the owners and especially Perez
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On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned?
I think it's just the unmeasurably thick elitism of these twats who clearly have no connection with ordinary people. To them, the players, staff, and fans are all just plebs who shut up and do as they're told, or they get the boot.
Well not today :D
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On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks?
If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary.
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On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary.
Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks.
The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment.
To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up.
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On April 21 2021 04:29 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I think it's just the unmeasurably thick elitism of these twats who clearly have no connection with ordinary people. To them, the players, staff, and fans are all just plebs who shut up and do as they're told, or they get the boot. Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up. You can include me in that, I didn't see this coming... Well not today :D
Obviously with hindsight...
If this was down to the players then the owners made an incredibly basic mistake.
Your ridiculously wealthy business could be temporarily stopped or permanently wrecked by about 25 individuals and you don't tell them before you do something that will drastically affect their careers and destroy their public image?
Are you fucking kidding me? What the hell.
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Yesterday and today were exciting football days w/o football on the pitch, I'm so glad that we stand united against such an insane idea
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On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up.
The only reason the players protested was because of people like us who forced the players to be held accountable.
You think without all the threats the players would have cared?
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Nice show for the fans, now UEFA can go on about how CL changes are necessary to keep football together
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On April 21 2021 04:59 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up. The only reason the players protested was because of people like us who forced the players to be held accountable. You think without all the threats the players would have cared?
Honestly? I think a large percentage of the players would. I'm sure many of them came from smaller leagues and clubs in their neighborhood and they wouldn't want to destroy the game they love. At least, I hope so
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fear of being banned from the national teams and competing in the world/EU cup is probably also a big issue.
For plenty of players the chance to play for their national team is literally a childhood dream.
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On April 21 2021 05:14 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:59 sharkie wrote:On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up. The only reason the players protested was because of people like us who forced the players to be held accountable. You think without all the threats the players would have cared? Honestly? I think a large percentage of the players would. I'm sure many of them came from smaller leagues and clubs in their neighborhood and they wouldn't want to destroy the game they love. At least, I hope so
They would have stayed at those clubs in their home countries if they only cared about their boyhood favorite teams and not money. I can understand not wanting to play in a zombie franchise club/league though.
Anyway, what happens to Barcelona now? They just fold?
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On April 21 2021 05:21 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 05:14 plasmidghost wrote:On April 21 2021 04:59 sharkie wrote:On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up. The only reason the players protested was because of people like us who forced the players to be held accountable. You think without all the threats the players would have cared? Honestly? I think a large percentage of the players would. I'm sure many of them came from smaller leagues and clubs in their neighborhood and they wouldn't want to destroy the game they love. At least, I hope so They would have stayed at those clubs in their home countries if they only cared about their boyhood favorite teams and not money. I can understand not wanting to play in a zombie franchise club/league though. Anyway, what happens to Barcelona now? They just fold?
That's fair. Not everyone is Alan Shearer
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On April 21 2021 05:27 plasmidghost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 05:21 zeo wrote:On April 21 2021 05:14 plasmidghost wrote:On April 21 2021 04:59 sharkie wrote:On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up. The only reason the players protested was because of people like us who forced the players to be held accountable. You think without all the threats the players would have cared? Honestly? I think a large percentage of the players would. I'm sure many of them came from smaller leagues and clubs in their neighborhood and they wouldn't want to destroy the game they love. At least, I hope so They would have stayed at those clubs in their home countries if they only cared about their boyhood favorite teams and not money. I can understand not wanting to play in a zombie franchise club/league though. Anyway, what happens to Barcelona now? They just fold? That's fair. Not everyone is Alan Shearer
Or stevie gerrard 
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Crazy 2 days for football :D
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Ajax in with the trolling
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On April 21 2021 04:59 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2021 04:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 21 2021 04:30 Gorsameth wrote:On April 21 2021 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On April 21 2021 04:24 Bacillus wrote:On April 21 2021 04:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:On April 21 2021 04:00 Bacillus wrote:
I'm a bit puzzled why they abandoned it so quickly. They must have expected a heavy backlash, nothing so far is particularly unexpected.
I thought disband could easily happen in a few weeks as the resistance starts forming something more concrete and substantial, but that was never going to happen in a handful of days. I think the backlash was a lot harsher than expected for some of them tbh, particularly for the reluctant joiners, and this required every team to join in to succeed. Hmm, possibly. I have to say, if I ever went against multiple rich & powerful organizations and vast majority of biggest football fanbases in Europe simultaneously, I'd be prepared for a war. Maybe the players' reaction surprised them or something. Imagine just dropping this on the players though. I thought these were supposed to be businesspeople. Why leave something like that unplanned? I assume they were afraid of leaks? If they talked to players it would have gotten out. And they likely assumed the players would grumble but accept it because they pay their salary. Not only this, but they assume that the players only care about big pay checks. The problem is that the majority of players want big pay checks but they don't want to give up international football or look like horrific people while earning that money. Not only this, these players aren't desperate low-wage workers that can be pushed around; they live extremely comfortable lives and have options in terms of employment. To be fair, a lot of people in this thread (and across most social media/forums) assumed the same thing and didn't appreciate the resistance that the players themselves would put up. The only reason the players protested was because of people like us who forced the players to be held accountable. You think without all the threats the players would have cared?
They would have cared, but no one group forced the clubs' hand.
The only reason that the clubs made this decision is because everyone came out against them so forcefully.
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A LFC sponsor quit over the ESL.
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