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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-15 09:12:52
December 15 2019 09:05 GMT
#161
On cheating in the NBA



tldw:

- Cheating is done through referees
- It is more on the spread than on outcome of games
- Usually done by affecting small segment of games which appear weird but not glaring enough, but will shift the game result
- Mobs do every trick in the book, like ambush players during dinners to influence them, and they know EVERYTHING about them, what they ate, whether their in a good mode or bad, etc.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 20 2019 05:12 GMT
#162
Decent game tonight, finally finished catchup on the DVR. One thing I wasn't happy with is how often guys like Giannis, AD, and Lebron are willing to settle for shots instead of smashing it in down low. I know its the regular season, but like, shouldn't we make the restricted area into a 3 point line already, or something? Its so much more fun than Giannis taking 3s over Kantavous Caldwell Pope.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 08:35:44
December 20 2019 08:10 GMT
#163
The NBA has had 154 inter-conference games. Its all tied at 77 apiece.
On December 20 2019 14:12 cLutZ wrote:
One thing I wasn't happy with is how often guys like Giannis, AD, and Lebron are willing to settle for shots instead of smashing it in down low. I know its the regular season, but like, shouldn't we make the restricted area into a 3 point line already, or something? Its so much more fun than Giannis taking 3s over Kantavous Caldwell Pope.

if i'm a fan watching 1 single regular season game for maximum entertainment then i would agree with you on this point 100%.

but let me counter with a different perspective taken from a game that played just the night before. 3 Raptors went down against the Pistons....
The Raptors are really fun to watch. A team reflects the personality of its leader. In this case, everyone plays like Lowry. Its fun and its also not sustainable. Once again, several rotation players are injured. We have VanVleet, Siakam, Powell, and Gasol all injured while engaged in some very physical play.

Raptors shills are calling all these injuries 'bad luck'. Its not bad luck.... every player on the damn team is willing to run through a brick wall. Again, that's really fun to watch... but its also not sustainable.
On December 15 2019 18:05 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On cheating in the NBA

i recommend "The Fix" by Declan Hill. He was mocked and maligned when it was published. He was labelled an idiot and a liar. History, however, has been very kind to Hill. He has gone from heretic to prophet in just a few years.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 20 2019 15:33 GMT
#164
On December 20 2019 17:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The NBA has had 154 inter-conference games. Its all tied at 77 apiece.
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2019 14:12 cLutZ wrote:
One thing I wasn't happy with is how often guys like Giannis, AD, and Lebron are willing to settle for shots instead of smashing it in down low. I know its the regular season, but like, shouldn't we make the restricted area into a 3 point line already, or something? Its so much more fun than Giannis taking 3s over Kantavous Caldwell Pope.

if i'm a fan watching 1 single regular season game for maximum entertainment then i would agree with you on this point 100%.

but let me counter with a different perspective taken from a game that played just the night before. 3 Raptors went down against the Pistons....
The Raptors are really fun to watch. A team reflects the personality of its leader. In this case, everyone plays like Lowry. Its fun and its also not sustainable. Once again, several rotation players are injured. We have VanVleet, Siakam, Powell, and Gasol all injured while engaged in some very physical play.

Raptors shills are calling all these injuries 'bad luck'. Its not bad luck.... every player on the damn team is willing to run through a brick wall. Again, that's really fun to watch... but its also not sustainable.
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2019 18:05 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On cheating in the NBA

i recommend "The Fix" by Declan Hill. He was mocked and maligned when it was published. He was labelled an idiot and a liar. History, however, has been very kind to Hill. He has gone from heretic to prophet in just a few years.


Doesn't seem to me like the injury rate has gone down in the 3 ball era, so I don't think this is a very valid idea.
Freeeeeeedom
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 16:49:55
December 20 2019 16:49 GMT
#165
On December 20 2019 17:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The NBA has had 154 inter-conference games. Its all tied at 77 apiece.
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2019 14:12 cLutZ wrote:
One thing I wasn't happy with is how often guys like Giannis, AD, and Lebron are willing to settle for shots instead of smashing it in down low. I know its the regular season, but like, shouldn't we make the restricted area into a 3 point line already, or something? Its so much more fun than Giannis taking 3s over Kantavous Caldwell Pope.

if i'm a fan watching 1 single regular season game for maximum entertainment then i would agree with you on this point 100%.

but let me counter with a different perspective taken from a game that played just the night before. 3 Raptors went down against the Pistons....
The Raptors are really fun to watch. A team reflects the personality of its leader. In this case, everyone plays like Lowry. Its fun and its also not sustainable. Once again, several rotation players are injured. We have VanVleet, Siakam, Powell, and Gasol all injured while engaged in some very physical play.

Raptors shills are calling all these injuries 'bad luck'. Its not bad luck.... every player on the damn team is willing to run through a brick wall. Again, that's really fun to watch... but its also not sustainable.
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2019 18:05 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On cheating in the NBA

i recommend "The Fix" by Declan Hill. He was mocked and maligned when it was published. He was labelled an idiot and a liar. History, however, has been very kind to Hill. He has gone from heretic to prophet in just a few years.

Meh he is a clown. Most of what he wrote are bs straight from his anal sphincter. And those that he gets right are god damn obvious facts that anybody with even half an eye can see or predict. He is correctly labelled as a hack and history has not been kind to him wtf are you smoking lol
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 23:55:39
December 23 2019 23:41 GMT
#166
nah, Hill did some really good investigative work uncovering a lot of corruption.

nice full court press by the Raptors yesterday...
small correction to the video narration: its the biggest regular season comeback in 10 years and 1 day.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
December 31 2019 19:06 GMT
#167
Here is an interesting look at bad landing mechanics and how they can lead to injury.



If Zion has any kind of minor pain in his legs this year I think they'll keep him out of games. They don't want the slightest bit of over compensation due to pain messing up the reprogramming process Zion is going through.

As my personal trainer always tells me, "Form over function until the form is perfect!"

"WATCH YOUR FORM ZION!"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 31 2019 19:19 GMT
#168
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-01 21:53:52
January 01 2020 21:31 GMT
#169
Former NBA Commissioner David Stern. Dead at 77. He was commissioner from 1984 to 2014. I didn't agree with everything he did. Overall though, he was a great visionary and overall... he was incredible..and i'd say a genius level in the execution of his job as NBA Commish.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77-after-brain-hemorrhage/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e

Michael Grange provides a decent synopsis of David Stern's life.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/david-stern-ushered-modern-nba/

Over Stern’s unprecedented 30-year run leading the NBA, he presided over an enterprise that expanded from 23 teams to 30; that went from having NBA Finals games broadcast on a tape-delayed basis to eventually becoming a broadcast property worth $24 billion. He saw the NBA go from being a league followed mainly in the United States and featuring almost exclusively American players to a global sport with 108 international players drawn from 38 countries to start the 2019–20 season.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
January 01 2020 22:24 GMT
#170
On January 02 2020 06:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Former NBA Commissioner David Stern. Dead at 77. He was commissioner from 1984 to 2014. I didn't agree with everything he did. Overall though, he was a great visionary and overall... he was incredible..and i'd say a genius level in the execution of his job as NBA Commish.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77-after-brain-hemorrhage/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e

Michael Grange provides a decent synopsis of David Stern's life.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/david-stern-ushered-modern-nba/

Show nested quote +
Over Stern’s unprecedented 30-year run leading the NBA, he presided over an enterprise that expanded from 23 teams to 30; that went from having NBA Finals games broadcast on a tape-delayed basis to eventually becoming a broadcast property worth $24 billion. He saw the NBA go from being a league followed mainly in the United States and featuring almost exclusively American players to a global sport with 108 international players drawn from 38 countries to start the 2019–20 season.

The only thing I didn't agree with Stern on was canceling the Chris Paul Lakes trade and him insisting on the Kings staying in Sacramento when they wanted to move to Las Vegas. Other than that, he seemed like a decent dude. RIP
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-01 23:37:12
January 01 2020 23:36 GMT
#171
On January 02 2020 07:24 redlightdistrict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2020 06:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Former NBA Commissioner David Stern. Dead at 77. He was commissioner from 1984 to 2014. I didn't agree with everything he did. Overall though, he was a great visionary and overall... he was incredible..and i'd say a genius level in the execution of his job as NBA Commish.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77-after-brain-hemorrhage/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e

Michael Grange provides a decent synopsis of David Stern's life.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/david-stern-ushered-modern-nba/

Over Stern’s unprecedented 30-year run leading the NBA, he presided over an enterprise that expanded from 23 teams to 30; that went from having NBA Finals games broadcast on a tape-delayed basis to eventually becoming a broadcast property worth $24 billion. He saw the NBA go from being a league followed mainly in the United States and featuring almost exclusively American players to a global sport with 108 international players drawn from 38 countries to start the 2019–20 season.

The only thing I didn't agree with Stern on was canceling the Chris Paul Lakes trade and him insisting on the Kings staying in Sacramento when they wanted to move to Las Vegas. Other than that, he seemed like a decent dude. RIP

The threat of the Kings moving was a tough issue for Stern. The threat of Sacramento leaving began around 2006. Vancouver relocated to Memphis in the 2001-2002 season. He didn't want to allow two teams to relocate in such a short time period. Lots of teams moving makes it a lot tougher to get concessions from Municipal and State governments. These governments get more paranoid the more often teams move.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
January 02 2020 00:04 GMT
#172
Man who was it that called James Harden out as an all-time great offensive player who's also ludicrously efficient, the whole shebang, even back in when they were all in OKC? :O
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 02 2020 00:57 GMT
#173
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-03 10:51:02
January 03 2020 02:11 GMT
#174
^LOLOL

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was Ace, and I went back and searched to confirm. He's made other posts predicting Harden as a generational offensive talent, and IIRC he'd already called out the OKC trade as fucking dumb at the time, but as an example:

On November 03 2012 11:54 Ace wrote:
Advanced stats predicted Asik would be a monster rebounder and defender. Not even surprised by that total at all.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:50 ketomai wrote:
Tryhard is one of the dumbest insults in any game.

And yea, now I have stats to explain why I was always "irrationally" fearing the beard more than Durant and especially Westbrook ;;.


To tell you the truth...that isn't the scary stuff. James Harden could honestly end up being the greatest offensive player of all time. Seriously that's how scary this shit is.

Bonus: this response to the take
On November 03 2012 12:26 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:54 Ace wrote:
Advanced stats predicted Asik would be a monster rebounder and defender. Not even surprised by that total at all.

On November 03 2012 11:50 ketomai wrote:
Tryhard is one of the dumbest insults in any game.

And yea, now I have stats to explain why I was always "irrationally" fearing the beard more than Durant and especially Westbrook ;;.


To tell you the truth...that isn't the scary stuff. James Harden could honestly end up being the greatest offensive player of all time. Seriously that's how scary this shit is.

of all time? he will have to reinvent himself when he loses his explosiveness due to fail knees in 5 years and still have this efficiency then maybe we can tag on the all time talk.

Bearded GOAT's still got it
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 03 2020 02:20 GMT
#175
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-06 03:46:10
January 06 2020 03:38 GMT
#176
to what extent did Kawhi Leonard put the entire Raptors team on his back and carry them to a title in 2019?

welp,

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_id=2019&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&shot_type=JUMP_SHOT&is_playoffs=Y&q1=Y&q2=Y&q3=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&c1stat=fga&c1comp=ge&c1val=70&order_by=efg_pct&order_by_asc=Y

Leonard was one of the most efficient jump shooters in the playoffs and yet less than 30% of his made shots were assisted. All the players around him were Assisted on 58%, 95%, 72% , 57%, 75% of their made shots.

During the 2019 playoff run the Raptors #2 "make his own jump shot" guy was Kyle Lowry. He had an eFG% that was slightly worse than Leonard's and his shots were assisted 58% of the time. That is a big drop off. It should expel the myth that Lowry is a lousy playoff player though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 10 2020 05:43 GMT
#177
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
January 11 2020 05:04 GMT
#178
I mean, KD can be a champion and a bitch. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16968 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-12 02:44:29
January 12 2020 02:44 GMT
#179
Harden committed 11 turnovers in the first half tonight. Normally, that's bad news for the Rockets. However, tonight they are playing against a team with Andrew Wiggins on it. So it really didn't matter much.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-12 02:52:39
January 12 2020 02:51 GMT
#180
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