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Twinkle Toes
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
Anyhow, if he is out that is a big loss to Boston. He contributes a lot without needing to constantly have the ball in his hands. In 11 games without Lowry the Raptors are 9-2 and they just mangled Utah. Freddie is shooting 44% over all, 40% from 3, 7.4 Assists, 2.4 TOs, 3.8 Boards, 21 points per game... he is something like +435734897 in those 11 games. holy fuck. I'm hearing the phrase "bet on yourself" every where. So far, the West is 54-49 against the East. GSW, Portland, and San Antonio being garbage has evened out the conferences a bit. Now that #7 Kyle Lowry is an NBA champion he is influencing baby names... what does Bed-Stuy mean? | ||
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KelianQatar
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On December 02 2019 19:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Speaking of non ball hogs that make big contributions to wins... Marcus Smart left with an abdomen injury. After 11 games he was shooting 40% from 3. The last 7 he has shot 21% from 3. Anyhow, if he is out that is a big loss to Boston. He contributes a lot without needing to constantly have the ball in his hands. In 11 games without Lowry the Raptors are 9-2 and they just mangled Utah. Freddie is shooting 44% over all, 40% from 3, 7.4 Assists, 2.4 TOs, 3.8 Boards, 21 points per game... he is something like +435734897 in those 11 games. holy fuck. I'm hearing the phrase "bet on yourself" every where. So far, the West is 54-49 against the East. GSW, Portland, and San Antonio being garbage has evened out the conferences a bit. Now that #7 Kyle Lowry is an NBA champion he is influencing baby names... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUdaWZ4FN0 what does Bed-Stuy mean? Bed-Stuy is one of those cute little New York nicknames for one of their neighborhoods, like SOHO stands for the neighborhood SOuth of HOuston, Bed-Stuy stands for Bedford–Stuyvesant, a neighborhood in Brooklyn. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
Hands up all those who had the East and West pretty much splitting the first 110 games? | ||
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KelianQatar
303 Posts
I don't think anyone expected them to be the worst team this year. Their fall certainly evened out the 2 conferences. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
Interesting missed call on a dunk that cost the Houston Rockets last night's game. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28222229/rockets-hopeful-nba-acts-james-harden-dunk-not-counted | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Honestly, this is just karma. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
My favourite incident where a game had to be replayed occurred in baseball in the George Brett "pine tar" incident. George Brett goes bonkers. He iwas eventually awarded the home run and the Yankees ended up losing the game once it was replayed. There was also a wild fracas over securing the baseball bat Brett used. LOL. + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2019 06:49 Jerubaal wrote: Honestly, this is just karma. Harden deserves some credit for showing so much restraint. Of course, he has bamboozled officials so many times in the past so like you said.. i guess its karma. The way the general public and NBA currently responds to athletes doing even the slightest thing out of line I wonder what the suspension would be for James Harden had he acted like George Brett last night. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
I can absolutely see it being either continued from 7:50 or even awarded a win. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
On December 05 2019 07:57 TaKeTV wrote: I can absolutely see it being either continued from 7:50 or even awarded a win. I can't see a win being awarded. I think a replay from 7:50 is possible. I wonder when they would replay the game though. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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BlackJack
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
% is worth more than a 2 point shot attempt at 50%. I've been waiting 20+ years for the NBA to realize that having a volume shooter that shoots below the league average is not a good thing. I'm talking about players like Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony, and now Russell Westbrook. Can anyone explain this math to me? Your TS% is worse than the average NBA player but you're an MVP candidate because you take a lot of shots and thus score a lot? How is that not bad? Is the opposing coach over there like "Jeez, we let their least efficient scorer take 30 shots, fuck!" Seriously, somebody explain that math to me. Is it a coincidence that these players haven't had that much success in the playoffs? Sure Iverson made the finals once but overall he has a losing record in the playoffs. Of course people will say "They never had any help, their teams sucked." As if anyone else on their team can shine with them on the court. As soon as they are out of the picture we get shit like Linsanity or Oladipo becoming an all-star. (Although I've considered Jeremy Lin overrated since day 1 of Linsanity too.) I think the most egregious of any of the high-volume low-efficiency shooters is Russell Westbrook. The guy has literally played with the 2 best scorers of the entire decade, he doesn't need to be taking 20 shots a game. More people should be talking about his 22 missed shots instead of Harden's "missed" dunk. Westbrook is considered a superstar but Draymond Green would be far more valuable to the Rockets than Westbrook in this form. It's sad because Westbrook could be great given his athleticism and skill if he just knew how to dial his shooting back (I think coaching should get some blame too). I thought the Rockets were stupid for making that trade and so far I'm right. I thought Portland was stupid for signing Melo and so far I'm wrong. Maybe things will change. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
Kawhi is not shooting well this year... so I'd like to ignore this first 16 games of this season and focus on the 5 previous playing years of Kawhi's career. Kawhi Leonard has a substantial mid range game. Sure, Kawhi is effective as a 3 point shooter and he is very effective driving to the hoop and laying it up or dunking it. However, part of his effectiveness in driving all the way to the hoop comes from defenders being uncertain that he might, at any time, pull up from 9 to 18 feet and take a jumper. If the defense knows every time Kawhi crosses the 3 point line that he is only going straight for the hoop or passing he becomes much easier to defend. Therefore, the mid range game has a purpose beyond the arithmetic around the taking of 1 single shot. Its the uncertainty it creates amongst defenders that adds value to the shot not measured in basic arithmetic of FG%*2. Its similar to how a poker player like Daniel Negreanu will do a "semi bluff" during a single hand of Texas Hold'em. In isolation that single play by Negreanu is , from an arithmetic standpoint incorrect. However, Negreanu does it strategically so his move is only slightly incorrect from an arithmetic standpoint. Making semi bluffs adjusts his table image and at the start of his career he had the reputation of being a "wild man". His reputation became that he was "crazy". Well, it turns out ... he wasn't crazy at all rather he was "crazy like a fox". Same thing with Kawhi Leonard's mid range game. Any single mid-range shot.. .taken in isolation .. .with no context might be a slightly incorrect play. However, when you consider how the defenders view Leonard.. his mid range game creates uncertainty in the minds of his defenders. Kawhi could literally do anything at any time. He could take a shot from anywhere on the court. In reality, its all carefully calibrated and calculated to keep his defenders off balance as much as possible. | ||
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KelianQatar
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17267 Posts
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/average-ticket-prices-nba-team-100000563.html NBA Attendance. http://proxy.espn.com/nba/attendance?year=2019 It is probably harder for places like Minnesota and Atlanta to hold their teams together long term when relatively low ticket prices are combined with lousy attendance. The gate for a Laker game is about $9 million while the gate for a Timberwolves game is about 0.9 million. Ouch. The median gate for an NBA game is approximately $2.275 million. Good news for Luke Walton. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28230870/woman-drops-sexual-assault-lawsuit-kings-coach-luke-walton On December 06 2019 02:32 KelianQatar wrote: Well, I'm afraid the mid range jump shot is going the way of the stolen base in baseball, on a major decline. Such a high percentage of at bats end in a strike out or walk or home run that baseball isn't nearly as much fun to watch. I quit watching baseball a few years ago. I'd like to see ball parks the size of old Tigers and Yankees stadium in order to drastically cut down on the home run ball. | ||
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