The when question is a bit of a red herring. Its never gonna be perfectly safe. For the players its already as safe or safer than playing during a regular flu season (unless you are Chris Bosh or someone with a similar lung condition, in which case both are very scary for you).

At this point its all a question of logistics and PR. And then next season the fan question comes into play.

TheGoatIs

1 Post

May 03 2020 17:51 GMT

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cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

May 11 2020 04:32 GMT

#625

I find it insane that Terry Francona was Jordan's minor league manager. What a crazy trivia question.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17546 Posts

May 21 2020 17:11 GMT

#626

an interesting alternate perspective to this documentary.
"how did this get in the documentary when MJ's ass wasn't even on the team"

https://streamable.com/2a3fa6

i guess this "documentary" is just 1 guy's opinion.

On May 02 2020 02:34 cLutZ wrote:
The when question is a bit of a red herring. Its never gonna be perfectly safe.

ya, good point. In general, I think North Americans need to take the seasonal flu much more seriously. If this disaster doesn't awaken the average North American I don't know what will.

On April 18 2020 12:57 Jerubaal wrote:

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Welcome back, baby boy.
We got all our Jimmys back!

hey man! i've been working a lot lately .. a lot of hard core coding. I stay away from my PC//monitor as much as possible during off hours when I have a heavy workload.

Jerubaal

United States7684 Posts

May 24 2020 04:53 GMT

#627

I agree. I'm sure there's some interesting insights in that documentary, but I'm not interested in sitting through a bunch of mythologizing.

I know it's illegal to have an opinion right now, but + Show Spoiler +

we should have had a differentiated approach from the beginning. All of these non-vulnerable populations should have been inoculated months ago, but Flatten the Curve became Flatten the Economy and then Flatten the Constitution, so...

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17546 Posts

May 31 2020 02:52 GMT

#628

1 year ago today....

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17546 Posts

June 04 2020 15:41 GMT

#629

Dwane Casey was falsely accused of being part of an NCAA college recruitment scandal. The "angry justice mob" needed a sacrifice. The angry mod demanded a pound of flesh. They got it in Dwane Casey. With no evidence it was declared Casey was part of the recruitment fraud. He left North America with a scarlett letter on his forehead.

As time passed it was discovered there was zero evidence Casey was involved in the scandal. He continued to proclaim his innocence as he coached women's basketball in Japan and other far away places. Eventually, the NCAA acknowledged Casey's innocence and he returned to North America.

I've always been a big fan of Dwane Casey primarily for two reasons. I thought he was a quality basketball coach. Secondly, I always believed he was a quality human. Welp, the following interview kinda adds to the "quality human" aspect.

Turns out the old man knows a thing or two. Classmates in his primary school hurled vicious racial epithets towards him ... later on they became friends with him. A few became his life long friends.

In my profession, software engineering, I'm rather surprised how little respect people in their 20s and 30s have for people in their 50s and 60s. I've benefited greatly from listening carefully to old men. I learn a lot from old guys like Rick Strahl and Allan Cooper. Frequently, guys my age scoff at them. That's fine... I'll be happy to kick their asses empowered by the wisdom of these men they dismiss as "angry old men".

Anyhow, I think old man Casey is worth a listen. I think the old guy knows a thing or two.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

June 13 2020 03:25 GMT

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cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 13 2020 07:14 GMT

#631

Kyrie has gone off the rails again. I really wish there was a way to commit him and get a diagnosis. I am totally fascinated by what condition he might have.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17546 Posts

June 13 2020 16:52 GMT

#632

NBA players with the "Bread Not Circuses" argument against restarting the season have my full support.

Last year was giant heaps of fun, however, its really not that important compared to real world events occurring right now.

One year ago today...

zev318

Canada4306 Posts

June 13 2020 23:44 GMT

#633

if the NBA can show they have the proper protocols for a restart, i dont see how players can afford to not play. and its not just for them, them playing would benefit so many more people who really need it financially

people like kyrie who are against a restart, i really dont see a good enough argument coming from them.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 14 2020 08:26 GMT

#634

On June 14 2020 08:44 zev318 wrote:
if the NBA can show they have the proper protocols for a restart, i dont see how players can afford to not play. and its not just for them, them playing would benefit so many more people who really need it financially

people like kyrie who are against a restart, i really dont see a good enough argument coming from them.

The thing about an anti-restart argument, particularly for the bubble, is that if you are opposed to the bubble in July (or frankly bubble starting May 1), you will almost certainly need to be opposed to normal restart at Christmas time, and probably even need to oppose bubble restart at Christmas. There just isn't much evidence that things are going to get better between then and now. We are starting some vaccine trials in July, but Sars1 never got a vaccine. Vaccines have many failure modes. They can be ineffective at creating an immune response, they can be toxic in an allergenic way, they can make people sick, etc.

If you weren't ready for bubble yesterday, you shouldn't be ready for basketball basically ever. Bubble system is probably less dangerous than normal league play for that demographic by a significant amount.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

June 15 2020 19:11 GMT

#635

It's Kyrie Irving. If there's a news story stating that an anonymous NBA player is peddling unscientific conspiracy theories about the virus, prime suspect would be him.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17546 Posts

June 16 2020 16:05 GMT

#636

meh, if certain NBAers don't want to play and don't want to "enter the bubble" so be it. Whatever reasons there are ... its fine with me. At the end of the day ... Its just a game.

https://streamable.com/yw8p23

Kyrie Irving is merely a guy willing to open his mouth about it. I don't think he should be crucified for that.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17546 Posts

June 17 2020 16:50 GMT

#637

if this gets viewed as a bargaining chip in a labour agreement rather than a genuine sentiment... that's very bad.

https://streamable.com/m8wooc

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

June 18 2020 06:25 GMT

#638

On June 18 2020 01:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if this gets viewed as a bargaining chip in a labour agreement rather than a genuine sentiment... that's very bad.

https://streamable.com/m8wooc

Its pretty bad regardless. He looks like a Doctors Without Borders employee who was captured by some militant group reading a script they prepared.