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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
September 07 2019 14:33 GMT
#901
Why do people say low isnt changing stuff? Its him changing the team that is currently the problem...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
September 07 2019 14:58 GMT
#902
On September 07 2019 23:33 sharkie wrote:
Why do people say low isnt changing stuff? Its him changing the team that is currently the problem...

He's been very reluctant with his changes. Things that should have been done before the World Cup he only looked at afterwards because the World Cup went so terribly. Afterwards he couldn't help but change a lot of stuff because it was very clear a lot of players he kept relying on were past their prime. The only real mistake he's made on these cuts is entirely barring the way for Hummels who was the best German defender in the 2nd half of the last season by a mile, and whose quality with the ball would have been incredible to have against the Netherlands. At the same time then we'd have had a lack of speed to play around, which is another layer.

In general people like to overreact when it comes to our national team though. We beat the Netherlands in Amsterdam but now that we lost at home everything is shit again and it's all Löw's fault. But really our offense is just so much worse now that Sané is injured.
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 07 2019 16:27 GMT
#903
Apparently Bulgaria have gifted England a goal. I can't get a working stream. But our qualifying group is looking like a piece of piss. In other news Exeter went up to Carlisle and smashed them leaving us top of the league. So all round good day so far.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4015 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 01:01:44
September 08 2019 01:00 GMT
#904
4-0 sounds like England walked over Bulgaria, but I just looked at the highlights, all the goals come from Bulgarian mistakes, none of them are played out from the back. How was England's play overall?
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-08 01:13:50
September 08 2019 01:08 GMT
#905
What I did see of that game looked dire. We couldn't produce anything and they just gave us the first goal out of nothing. Not encouraging but the group is so easy it's not like England really have to turn it up right now. It's was quite a typical dull boring England performance. But we are surposed to be in a new era of more exciting football right now.

edit: Bulgaria capitulated in the second half and we ended up winning 4:0. So maybe my post was a bit unnecessarily negative.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
September 08 2019 01:28 GMT
#906
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September 08 2019 01:49 GMT
#907
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 08 2019 22:27 GMT
#908
On September 08 2019 10:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Also not going to be surprised at all if the USMNT fails to qualify for Qatar

it's possible but they also get a bye to the last round of qualifying in the new system so they dont have to worry about getting knocked out of Guatemala in the round before the hex
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7347 Posts
September 09 2019 10:01 GMT
#909
On September 07 2019 23:33 sharkie wrote:
Why do people say low isnt changing stuff? Its him changing the team that is currently the problem...


I don't think everything is as black and white.

Sure throwing Hummels out was maybe not his best decision and mistakes were made, but the EU qualifier were always more glorified friendlys for Germany and Löw is trying stuff. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Ofc losing to Northern Ireland today would be another story, but losing to a young and hungry Netherlands is nothing out of the ordinary IMO.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
September 09 2019 11:02 GMT
#910
Also Germany beat Netherlands away, so the result at home isn't that bad.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18400 Posts
September 09 2019 11:11 GMT
#911
On September 09 2019 20:02 sharkie wrote:
Also Germany beat Netherlands away, so the result at home isn't that bad.

Germany played Netherlands 4 times since the world cup, and the results are 2-1-1 in favor of the Netherlands. That isn't something Germans can be happy with, given the rivalry.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7347 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-09 11:15:08
September 09 2019 11:12 GMT
#912
On September 07 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
Offensively, you could just see that Sané would have been sorely needed and that his injury just hurts us a ton. The most dangerous situations offensively for Germany came from abusing speed advantage against the back 4. Then Werner would have been a fast-paced option from the bench late in the game instead of playing the first half as a complete and total non-factor. To boot, Löw's system doesn't have a spot for Kai Havertz, one of the biggest talents in German football.


When there are no injuries holding them back, I think Germany can field the fastest and most dangerous offensive there is right now. Would love to see them play in a Kloppo style super hard pressure kinda system.

EDIT: Dunno man. Netherlands was out of the picture for so long, I really don't feel any rivalry there from our side. Might be different for the dutch to win vs the big bad neighbour though.
IMO Germany's nemesis is still Spain, but maybe that's just me
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
September 09 2019 11:18 GMT
#913
I also think that with the EU there are not a lot of bad feelings left between the Dutch and the Germans.
And from a competitive POV as Harris said Netherlands have been out of the picture for so long. I see France as the biggest rival of Germany now
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18400 Posts
September 09 2019 11:19 GMT
#914
On September 09 2019 20:12 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
Offensively, you could just see that Sané would have been sorely needed and that his injury just hurts us a ton. The most dangerous situations offensively for Germany came from abusing speed advantage against the back 4. Then Werner would have been a fast-paced option from the bench late in the game instead of playing the first half as a complete and total non-factor. To boot, Löw's system doesn't have a spot for Kai Havertz, one of the biggest talents in German football.


When there are no injuries holding them back, I think Germany can field the fastest and most dangerous offensive there is right now. Would love to see them play in a Kloppo style super hard pressure kinda system.

EDIT: Dunno man. Netherlands was out of the picture for so long, I really don't feel any rivalry there from our side. Might be different for the dutch to win vs the big bad neighbour though.
IMO Germany's nemesis is still Spain, but maybe that's just me


Well, your "musicians" still seem particularly gleeful when Netherlands misses a worldcup



As do your tabloids. In general, I think both countries have moved a bit past the rivalry that there was in the 80s and 90s, but NL-DE is still a special match.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7347 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-09 12:17:24
September 09 2019 12:16 GMT
#915
On September 09 2019 20:19 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 20:12 Harris1st wrote:
On September 07 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
Offensively, you could just see that Sané would have been sorely needed and that his injury just hurts us a ton. The most dangerous situations offensively for Germany came from abusing speed advantage against the back 4. Then Werner would have been a fast-paced option from the bench late in the game instead of playing the first half as a complete and total non-factor. To boot, Löw's system doesn't have a spot for Kai Havertz, one of the biggest talents in German football.


When there are no injuries holding them back, I think Germany can field the fastest and most dangerous offensive there is right now. Would love to see them play in a Kloppo style super hard pressure kinda system.

EDIT: Dunno man. Netherlands was out of the picture for so long, I really don't feel any rivalry there from our side. Might be different for the dutch to win vs the big bad neighbour though.
IMO Germany's nemesis is still Spain, but maybe that's just me


Well, your "musicians" still seem particularly gleeful when Netherlands misses a worldcup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGj3zl4SUdo

As do your tabloids. In general, I think both countries have moved a bit past the rivalry that there was in the 80s and 90s, but NL-DE is still a special match.


Haha yes of course. But more for the funsies, not a real rivalry. And our "musicians" will do the same for any big football country that misses a cup. England, Italy, ...

EDIT: As I'm pretty sure the other football nations would (and I guess did) make fun of Germany if we don't qualify or show some horrendous football and go out in the Ro32
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
September 09 2019 17:22 GMT
#916
On September 09 2019 20:12 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 19:04 Elentos wrote:
Offensively, you could just see that Sané would have been sorely needed and that his injury just hurts us a ton. The most dangerous situations offensively for Germany came from abusing speed advantage against the back 4. Then Werner would have been a fast-paced option from the bench late in the game instead of playing the first half as a complete and total non-factor. To boot, Löw's system doesn't have a spot for Kai Havertz, one of the biggest talents in German football.


When there are no injuries holding them back, I think Germany can field the fastest and most dangerous offensive there is right now.

Hmmmmm.... I call and raise you a João Félix - C. Ronaldo - Bernardo Silva for the most fastest and dangerousest. And then France comes in, goes all in and we all fold.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-09 20:34:51
September 09 2019 20:34 GMT
#917
Germany looks so pathetically mediocre. Literally the only thing keeping us relevant is the pure talent at most positions. The formation, tactics, coaching, work rate, personnel choices, etc. are all poor.
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
September 10 2019 01:48 GMT
#918
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2077 Posts
September 10 2019 06:01 GMT
#919
The thing that really caught my attention was:
United have failed to win away since Solskjaer's permanent appointment

It may be a bit misleading with the interim manager period not being considered and summer break extending the time span, but it still feels like unbeliavable. They should have won 2 this season already.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
September 10 2019 11:54 GMT
#920
I mean results have been very poor but the performance has been 'ok', and that while playing real youngsters. Not like it will be acceptable in the long run, def needs to start winning soon. But itd be worse if he also bought a bunch of players that failed while playing boring football while insulting the players for not being good enough.
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