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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1999 Posts
December 11 2021 20:24 GMT
#1641
Lewis could 1 stop, Max can't but as you said safety cars are almost inevitable.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3987 Posts
December 11 2021 20:38 GMT
#1642
I wonder how they spend their 13? sets of tyres over the weekend. They need a set for q3, maybe a set for q1/q2. A couple for practice, but surely not that many. But sometimes they even change to used tyres during the race. Is it really that hard to keep 4 sets brand new for the sunday?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
December 11 2021 21:10 GMT
#1643
On December 12 2021 05:24 Aristodemus wrote:
Lewis could 1 stop, Max can't but as you said safety cars are almost inevitable.


He can still do a 1 stop, according to Horner. Presumably it would require some pretty intense tire management tho
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
December 11 2021 21:24 GMT
#1644
On December 11 2021 09:32 Aristodemus wrote:
I'm sure we can all agree it's been a good season!

I'd even say it was one of the best ever. We had everything. Drama, close racing, collisions, a tight championship battle, rain chaos, questionable decisions by the race direction (Spa...), suprising victories (Ricciardo, Ocon)... the list goes on. And it's the last season of the current regulations which makes it even more special.

The old guys are slowly fading out, Kimi is gone tomorrow, Alonso, Seb and Lewis will follow soon. Perez and Bottas are also a bit older. The amount of young talent we're going to have in the next years is insane. Russell in the Merc, Max, the super strong duo of Sainz (who is still surprisingly young) and Leclerc, Lando at McLaren, the AT boys and Mick... who is kinda stuck at Haas.

I really hope Haas somehow build a stronger car next year, because I really want to know whether Mick can compete with the best. Mick's main problem is the current pairing at Ferrari though. These seats are blocked for the next few years. Alfa doesn't look like a great step up, maybe Mick can somehow get into Aston Martin, but they're strongly tied to Mercedes. Of course, he has to perform well first. This year only showed us that Mazepin sucks.

Williams is going to be interesting. Latifi has been really consistent this season, he's by no means exceptional, but he's a very solid driver. Albon on the other hand knows that this is his last chance to leave a mark. Piastri is gonna get his seat once Alonso finally calls it quits. Pourchaire is also a candidate for a seat. I still hope Illott gets a shot one day, but I doubt it.

As for tomorrow's race: I hope they don't crash. I want a close and fair battle. And I want Lewis to win. That's all.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland735 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-12 04:11:50
December 12 2021 04:11 GMT
#1645
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-12 07:05:35
December 12 2021 07:03 GMT
#1646
On December 12 2021 05:38 aseq wrote:
I wonder how they spend their 13? sets of tyres over the weekend. They need a set for q3, maybe a set for q1/q2. A couple for practice, but surely not that many. But sometimes they even change to used tyres during the race. Is it really that hard to keep 4 sets brand new for the sunday?

At the end of FP1/2/3, they have to return 2 sets for each, so that means going into qualifying, they'll have up to 6 new sets available. All teams that get into Q3 get to use the 13th set, which is the softs.

For a backmarker team, they will typically just spend 2 sets on Q1. Top teams will typically spend 1-2 on Q1 (used twice unless the driver is at risk). Midfield teams will almost always use up 2 sets in Q1, as getting through on a used set isn't guaranteed.

That leaves 4-5 sets for Q2. Almost all teams will use 2 sets here, and if they qualify top 10, will need to start on that set. Often the banker lap is a scrub set if the team only has 4 sets available.

That leaves 3 new sets + Q3 set for Q3. Q3 and a new set used here, which leaves.

Top 10 - 1-2 new sets, starting on Q2 tire.
11-15 - 2-3 new sets, free choice of tire.
15+ - Plenty of choices, pretty open to use up a set or two extra in FP.

There will be other sets available, but qualifying typically takes 15-25% of the life of a tire, which can be very important for pit strategies.

For races which are easy one stoppers, they might drop down to one new set and a set of used softs/mediums(quali), but that is gambling that they won't get bitten too hard if there's a late safety car or a tire failure of some sort.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
December 12 2021 08:54 GMT
#1647
predictions time! - Raikkonen will crash Max out of the race(not literally on purpose).
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6306 Posts
December 12 2021 13:07 GMT
#1648
No investigation necessary for that? Bullshit
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
December 12 2021 13:07 GMT
#1649
yes, let them race
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
December 12 2021 13:07 GMT
#1650
I'm sorry this is just not ok.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6306 Posts
December 12 2021 13:09 GMT
#1651
On December 12 2021 22:07 xM(Z wrote:
yes, let them race

Cutting the entire corner and zooming away is not racing, why even have corners
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3987 Posts
December 12 2021 13:09 GMT
#1652
Lol, this time it's ok...
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8165 Posts
December 12 2021 13:09 GMT
#1653
Jesus. I'm trying not to start with conspiracy theories, but they're not making it easy for me
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
December 12 2021 13:11 GMT
#1654
Has nose in front, holds the corner, all the speaking points in previous incidents somehow they don't matter here.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
December 12 2021 13:11 GMT
#1655
This sport has zero credibility anymore... or for a while now. What a farce. Mercedes lobby is winning this, not the drivers or the engineers.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
December 12 2021 13:12 GMT
#1656
On December 12 2021 22:09 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2021 22:07 xM(Z wrote:
yes, let them race

Cutting the entire corner and zooming away is not racing, why even have corners
Max should've left him room on the track
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Vinekh
Profile Joined September 2021
131 Posts
December 12 2021 13:17 GMT
#1657
On December 12 2021 22:12 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2021 22:09 zeo wrote:
On December 12 2021 22:07 xM(Z wrote:
yes, let them race

Cutting the entire corner and zooming away is not racing, why even have corners
Max should've left him room on the track

No he shouldn't He is already ahead by the apex. Hamilton should back out. These are the rules and also the instructions from before the race.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
December 12 2021 13:23 GMT
#1658
you can't just put your car perpendicular to the track then claim to be ahead
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
December 12 2021 13:25 GMT
#1659
I have to say, I did not agree at all with people here complaining about the decisions made by the officials in the last race. I really don't think that Max was treated unfair last time around. However, I absolutely don't understand how Hamilton keeping first place today was okay in any way.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
December 12 2021 13:31 GMT
#1660
Sainz let Max pass; he didn't want to be involved.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
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