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Zaros
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Seems like (if the infringements are true) Max should get a slap on the wrist and Hamilton should get a DSQ, but knowing the stewards, it might just end up being the opposite. Not saying the stewards are favouring Hamilton or anything, just that they are incompetent, dumb, and highly inconsistent | ||
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Penev
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On November 14 2021 00:53 Penev wrote: Weird that it takes them this long to come to a decision. Seems pretty clear cut both these cases if you can call Verstappen's inspection a case even. This decision will in all likelihood straight up seal the WDC (and honestly, a bit of a sad way to end the season after all this), they probably just want to be 150% certain, and give all benefits of a doubt. There's also the complication that Mercedes claims Max tampered with the rear wing, which, even if a ridiculous statement, also needs to be entertained. Experts needs to be called, tests needs to be done, lawyers needs to be involved etc. It's just a naturally long process | ||
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LennX
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https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qt4wni/max_verstappen_fined_50000_for_breach_of_article/ Verstappen's penalty is out. Now we wait for the other one | ||
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Penev
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On November 14 2021 01:48 Excludos wrote: This decision will in all likelihood straight up seal the WDC (and honestly, a bit of a sad way to end the season after all this), they probably just want to be 150% certain, and give all benefits of a doubt. There's also the complication that Mercedes claims Max tampered with the rear wing, which, even if a ridiculous statement, also needs to be entertained. Experts needs to be called, tests needs to be done, lawyers needs to be involved etc. It's just a naturally long process I suppose you're right. If the eventual decision is appropriate (Lewis DQ, Max no penalty or at least not one affecting his grid position). Somehow this organization, the FIA, has me worried. I know, rationally, they'll do the expected thing but I'm not 100% sure and evidently I'm not the only one which is saying something. Edit: Ah, phew, Max just got a fine. | ||
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On November 14 2021 01:52 LennX wrote: https://twitter.com/LukeSmithF1/status/1459561039696121861 https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qt4wni/max_verstappen_fined_50000_for_breach_of_article/ Verstappen's penalty is out. Now we wait for the other one Beat me to it. €50000 is an ok deterrent imo. This bit is important: The Stewards are satisfied [...] that there was insignificant force when Verstappen touched the wing. So Mercedes have no legs to stand on in their own infringements. | ||
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LennX
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On November 14 2021 02:02 Excludos wrote: Beat me to it. €50000 is an ok deterrent imo. This bit is important: So Mercedes have no legs to stand on in their own infringements. https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qt5fi8/lewis_hamilton_car_44_is_disqualified_from_the/ HAMILTON DISQUALIFIED from the qualifying results I was busy F5ing for updates like the rest of the sub reddit | ||
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On November 14 2021 02:14 LennX wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/qt5fi8/lewis_hamilton_car_44_is_disqualified_from_the/ HAMILTON DISQUALIFIED I was busy F5ing for updates like the rest of the sub reddit Funny. Watching Fp2, and the commentators haven't received the news yet. Still discussing the matter. I'm surprised the stewards made a correct decision for once EDIT: Worth noting, Hamilton is only disqualified from the qualifying results. He will still start the sprint race from the back (Or pitlane, not 100% certain how that works. Apparently it depends on if the wing they replace it with is identical or not. Also he'll have a 5 place grid penalty on Sunday for changing his ICE) | ||
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edit: Welp, guess not. Damn those Mercs are fast! | ||
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Laurens
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“Where did Hamilton finish?” “Fifth” “Hoho, okey!” “Yeah I know” It’s gotta be frustrating for a champ like Alonso to be driving in that Alpine and then seeing what Hamilton can do in that Mercedes. Impressive drive, I can see him finishing 3rd today unless Perez really delivers. | ||
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On November 14 2021 15:48 Laurens wrote: There’s this clip of Alonso talking to his race engineer after the sprint: “Where did Hamilton finish?” “Fifth” “Hoho, okey!” “Yeah I know” It’s gotta be frustrating for a champ like Alonso to be driving in that Alpine and then seeing what Hamilton can do in that Mercedes. Impressive drive, I can see him finishing 3rd today unless Perez really delivers. There's every chance Hamilton could win today even. Third is expected. But judging by how far behind he was Max and Bottas yesterday, he'll have around 20 seconds to catch up, which is entirely doable in 3/4 of the remaining race. He looked so much faster than Max I don't think he'll have any issues passing on the straight, and it's not like Bottas is going to put up a fight. Any kind of safety car or red flag will of course also just hand him the victory on a silver platter. | ||
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LennX
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RBR 1-2 after lap 1 | ||
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On November 14 2021 23:50 Excludos wrote: There's every chance Hamilton could win today even. Third is expected. But judging by how far behind he was Max and Bottas yesterday, he'll have around 20 seconds to catch up, which is entirely doable in 3/4 of the remaining race. He looked so much faster than Max I don't think he'll have any issues passing on the straight, and it's not like Bottas is going to put up a fight. Any kind of safety car or red flag will of course also just hand him the victory on a silver platter. nvm. Bottas failed him again xD He is properly useless isn't he? He always lets his team down in every important situation he can edit: I somehow underestimated how fast Hamilton would clear the pack. I expected it would take a little bit more than 5 laps. Aaaaaand safety car... just because why not give Hamilton even more of an advantage? | ||
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LennX
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On November 15 2021 02:04 Excludos wrote: nvm. Bottas failed him again xD He is properly useless isn't he? He always lets his team down in every important situation he can edit: I somehow underestimated how fast Hamilton would clear the pack. I expected it would take a little bit more than 5 laps. Aaaaaand safety car... just because why not give Hamilton even more of an advantage? Bottas still being a team player helping Hamilton to 3rd and now a SC haha | ||
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LennX
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Perez "bad start" to the season was mirrored by a few other others who swapped teams. He just needed half a season to get used to the car and now he is showing what he can do. I agree Perez performed way better than the last few RBR no2 drivers Lap 48 - That was some extreme defending from Verstappen. Both him and Hamilton went so far off the tracks | ||
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On November 15 2021 02:54 LennX wrote: Lap 48 - That was some extreme defending from Verstappen. Both him and Hamilton went so far off the tracks Wouldn't whine too much if that was a penalty for Max tbh. Not a huge fan of running people off track, especially not to the point of going off-track yourself edit: Welp, guess not | ||
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LennX
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Edit: Stewards say no investigations necessary . Edit 2 : FIA radio is a gem | ||
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