EPTHow that isn't an instant race DQ is beyond me. Also giving him just too few points to actually force a race ban.
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Ciaus237
South Africa274 Posts
How that isn't an instant race DQ is beyond me. Also giving him just too few points to actually force a race ban. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8033 Posts
On June 02 2025 18:47 Ciaus237 wrote: As is tradition, FIA handles Max with kiddy gloves. How that isn't an instant race DQ is beyond me. Also giving him just too few points to actually force a race ban. Because people are immediately jumping to the wildest conclusions that makes no sense if you think about them for 2 seconds Rather than completely red-misting and aiming for a random first driver he could find, only barely touching him before reacting and turning away, to no benefit for anyone, and then being completely calm and normal the second he exited the vehicle - It's more likely he simply completely miscalculated where the other car was, perhaps thinking Russell wasn't going to pass there after all and then speeding up to let him pass after the corner. It's far from the first time this has happened in F1. The view from the cockpit is rather narrow, and it's easy to fuck up if you don't pay attention or is distracted. Still his fault for sure, don't get me wrong, but likely a lot less malicious than everyone jumped on the train to believe. 3 penalty points and 10 sec penalty is pretty accurate penalty for this tbh | ||
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Ciaus237
South Africa274 Posts
On June 02 2025 23:15 Excludos wrote: Because people are immediately jumping to the wildest conclusions that makes no sense if you think about them for 2 seconds Rather than completely red-misting and aiming for a random first driver he could find, only barely touching him before reacting and turning away, to no benefit for anyone, and then being completely calm and normal the second he exited the vehicle - It's more likely he simply completely miscalculated where the other car was, perhaps thinking Russell wasn't going to pass there after all and then speeding up to let him pass after the corner. It's far from the first time this has happened in F1. The view from the cockpit is rather narrow, and it's easy to fuck up if you don't pay attention or is distracted. Still his fault for sure, don't get me wrong, but likely a lot less malicious than everyone jumped on the train to believe. 3 penalty points and 10 sec penalty is pretty accurate penalty for this tbh They released Max's onboard. He was repeatedly looking at Russel's car before making the move. Nico on the broadcast immediately identified what it was. Max's interview answer about it afterwards didn't exactly inspire confidence in the possibility that it was accidental. Max is the best racer on the track, and was already pissed off. He doesn't fuck up like this by mistake when there's only one car around him. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8033 Posts
On June 03 2025 01:27 Ciaus237 wrote: They released Max's onboard. He was repeatedly looking at Russel's car before making the move. Nico on the broadcast immediately identified what it was. Max's interview answer about it afterwards didn't exactly inspire confidence in the possibility that it was accidental. Max is the best racer on the track, and was already pissed off. He doesn't fuck up like this by mistake when there's only one car around him. This is exactly what I'm talking about. People love jumping to the wildest conclusions. The onboard shows Max looking into the mirror twice when George is in the blind zone. The third time he looks right is clearly in an "oh shit" panic, while turning the wheel away. Nothing about the situation makes any sense from the perspective of him doing it on purpose. What would that achieve? Why did he immediately turn away? It clearly wasn't a red mist "ok I'm taking us both out" iRacing style. What people are arguing is that he got really mad at George for his own GP telling him to give the position back. So in blind rage he decided to gently tap into him while panickly turning away. Occamz razor is clear here: it was a weird situation and he simply didn't see him. World champion title doesn't give him superpowers to not make mistakes, even dumb ones The following interview highlights exactly what I'm talking about. "Does it matter?" is a direct reference to people will believe what they want to Edit: Also, Nico is a genuine tool. He loves throwing around straight bullshit as truth. Yes, he "knew immediately" before seeing any replays. Come on Edit2: reading my own replies, I know I'm coming across as defensive. The truth is I'm just genuinely exasperated. People love to hate a bit too much. In F1, genuine mistakes are clearly impossible. It's always a massive bandwagon of forgoing any sort of nuance | ||
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Penev
28469 Posts
Personally I'm relieved he can still avoid the ban so we have at least one driver who can challenge the McLarens a bit for every race this season. E: Indeed Excludos, it still could just bet a lapse of judgement and not a "red mist" impuls. But I agree especially with your 2nd edit. It really is exasperating to see all the hate mongering about something not all that important. And it does really suck people taking the words of commentators as gospel. Rosberg's black flag requests were awful; What a morron. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5280 Posts
he, Max, did it on purpose, he knows he did it on purpose so i blame him. GG, slam dunk. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
There's telemetry and more detail than just video involved as well. Max intentionally slows up to make the incident happen, and hits the accelerator to make sure they're directly alongside for the contact. You can try to defend Max all you want, but he did this intentionally. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8033 Posts
On June 05 2025 01:34 Lmui wrote: Here's Jolyon's analysis of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUvhBp580kQ There's telemetry and more detail than just video involved as well. Max intentionally slows up to make the incident happen, and hits the accelerator to make sure they're directly alongside for the contact. You can try to defend Max all you want, but he did this intentionally. Which would be the exact same if he simply didn't see him Are we done here? I'm bored of this | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5280 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8033 Posts
On June 07 2025 15:59 xM(Z wrote: hypothetical - if Max comes out and admits it, would it be enough for you to change your stance?; or even then, you'd look for <happenings> on the race track to soften the blow, to detract from his guilt %?. Are you still on this? Holy shit let it go dude. Any other person this would be a tiny footnote of the race. But because it's Max people are absolutely frothing at the mouth. Grow up | ||
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