EPTSimeone is successful asking that much efforts from his players because he is in Atletico. He raised this team from top 5-7 in Spain to top 5 in Europe. I'm amazed he's still getting anything from his players, I thought they'd be burnt out a long time ago. But it's "easier" in an underdog environment. Mou needs this.
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
Simeone is successful asking that much efforts from his players because he is in Atletico. He raised this team from top 5-7 in Spain to top 5 in Europe. I'm amazed he's still getting anything from his players, I thought they'd be burnt out a long time ago. But it's "easier" in an underdog environment. Mou needs this. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 24 2018 16:23 WillyWanker wrote: Imo Mourinho is better in a team that's not the favorite to win. United is supposed to win and play well, he never fitted. Simeone is successful asking that much efforts from his players because he is in Atletico. He raised this team from top 5-7 in Spain to top 5 in Europe. I'm amazed he's still getting anything from his players, I thought they'd be burnt out a long time ago. But it's "easier" in an underdog environment. Mou needs this. I'm actually not entirely convinced on the underdog thing if I'm honest. Mou did well at Porto and Inter in a time where neither were really underdogs, certainly not Inter. I'll also never see Madrid as an underdog. People just can't tolerate his antics and his system when he's not winning, it's as simple as that. A more pleasant Mourinho wouldn't have been fired during his first Chelsea stint (Ambramovich was looking for any excuse to fire him then), which honestly could've kept going on just like Simeone's Atletico. | ||
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WillyWanker
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 24 2018 22:00 Ysellian wrote: I'm actually not entirely convinced on the underdog thing if I'm honest. Mou did well at Porto and Inter in a time where neither were really underdogs, certainly not Inter. I'll also never see Madrid as an underdog. People just can't tolerate his antics and his system when he's not winning, it's as simple as that. A more pleasant Mourinho wouldn't have been fired during his first Chelsea stint (Ambramovich was looking for any excuse to fire him then), which honestly could've kept going on just like Simeone's Atletico. to his point if you look at the CL successes they were certainly not favorites against any of their opponents (except maybeee in the final?) but domestically he wasnt really being challenged in either of those teams much so not being an underdog in those situations wasnt much of a factor. I think I kinda get what hes saying but I dont think he explained it that well so Im not sure if he quite means what I do. But yes there is for sure an "us against the world, no one expects us to pull this off so we will" attitude that has been a hallmark of the times he has succeeded in Europe atleast. I am more in line with your thinking though. Its more about antics and system which after a certain point just steals your soul. To the point about Atleti, the squad has been accepting of the way they play for a long time and Simeone also brings in players that align with that philosophy when he has had to adjust/add to his squad, so for him it works. Simeone isnt going to put a Paul Pogba in his team even if you sold him to him for half price because he knows it wouldnt work. Or well maybe at half price but you know, its a hard sell. | ||
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sharkie
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8718 Posts
On December 25 2018 10:30 neymar2019 wrote: United are currently languishing in sixth in the Premier League, some 16 points behind leaders and bitter rivals Liverpool. Mourinho is the third manager in charge since Sir Alex Ferguson retired in 2013, and is seemingly no nearer to delivering a league title to Old Trafford. ![[image loading]](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZKoXZ71Ofgo/XBdXfwtjX1I/AAAAAAAAVVA/Vlj23clVKpoqxAfjaBm4-OfspZHQ85_GgCLcBGAs/s400/Carlo_Ancelotti001.jpg) wat. | ||
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Dante08
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aseq
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8718 Posts
On December 25 2018 19:11 aseq wrote: Neymar2019? Sounds like we got a replacement for N1E. i was thinking he was an alt for sure | ||
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Faruko
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it will be the deciding factor of how many millions of euros will guardiola need to spend | ||
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KobraKay
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If current results stay, city will indeed have 45 (so will tottenham) while l'pool will get 51. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
 it must have been potential points. EDIT: | ||
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