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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 09 2019 19:35 GMT
#3341
New rule will be penalty for all those handballs, and I think they're already applying it. Even with no intent, he's stopping a shot on target I'd say it's a pen.

Really unimpressed with City for now. They can't pass the midfield and they're receiving counters very easily. I don't get why Silva doesn't get back to help, there's a big distance between him and the 2 others.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 20:53:32
April 09 2019 19:35 GMT
#3342
Liverpool v Porto

1-0 https://streamja.com/XLbz
2-0 https://streamable.com/23p9p


Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City

var handball https://www.clippituser.tv/c/qkarbn
Aguero pen https://streamja.com/wmV1
1-0 https://streamja.com/23b6
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 19:37:26
April 09 2019 19:37 GMT
#3343
Liverpool is prolly the most balanced team of the last few years no?

Klopp has learned so much
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 19:40:41
April 09 2019 19:38 GMT
#3344
On April 10 2019 04:27 Bacillus wrote:
Do you think the penalty call was correct? It's always really debatable with these sliding tackle/falling down/whatever type of situations where you can't really have your arms sticking to your body completely. To me it looked like Rose didn't make himself that much bigger considering the circumstances, but it really depends on the camera angle and all that.

Arm is over his head and blocking a shot on goal, I hate calls like this because it seems incidental/reasonable arm poistion, but you just can't have people getting away with blocking shots on goal away from their body.
It really becomes a debate what arm position is far enough and how much of it is intent. We apparently really need that black and white rule where any handball is a foul, regardless of intent or exact position, so the discussion goes away/calls finally are consistent.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 19:40:21
April 09 2019 19:40 GMT
#3345
quote instead of edit
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 20:19:58
April 09 2019 20:18 GMT
#3346
Hahaha, Kane just eliminated himself from the game (and maybe a month or two in advance) by a stupid move.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 09 2019 20:29 GMT
#3347
On April 10 2019 04:37 sharkie wrote:
Liverpool is prolly the most balanced team of the last few years no?

Klopp has learned so much

Well they are no where near as attacking as they were and defend way deeper and better now. If that is balanced for you then yes that is true, but they are very much a more defensive side than offensive now. The last 2 games are literally the only time Scouse have played a more offensive midfield having Keita in it, normally they play 3 holding midfielders xd
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 20:41:04
April 09 2019 20:39 GMT
#3348
Second half is all City and random Tottenham offense, goal. Football is funny sometimes.

Really dumb from Delph. Raising his hand for the offside, losing focus, while with VAR they should know referees can't raise their flag until the offense has concluded anyway...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 09 2019 20:41 GMT
#3349
I think Pep just loves to lose away champions league knockout ties right or at least make it difficult.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
April 09 2019 20:59 GMT
#3350
footballers should get punished by their clubs if they raise their hand for offside...
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 21:03:32
April 09 2019 21:01 GMT
#3351
On April 10 2019 04:38 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:27 Bacillus wrote:
Do you think the penalty call was correct? It's always really debatable with these sliding tackle/falling down/whatever type of situations where you can't really have your arms sticking to your body completely. To me it looked like Rose didn't make himself that much bigger considering the circumstances, but it really depends on the camera angle and all that.

Arm is over his head and blocking a shot on goal, I hate calls like this because it seems incidental/reasonable arm poistion, but you just can't have people getting away with blocking shots on goal away from their body.
It really becomes a debate what arm position is far enough and how much of it is intent. We apparently really need that black and white rule where any handball is a foul, regardless of intent or exact position, so the discussion goes away/calls finally are consistent.


I agree, but until then. I think var intervening on a 50/50 subjective type call is also not right.

On April 10 2019 05:39 WillyWanker wrote:

Really dumb from Delph. Raising his hand for the offside, losing focus, while with VAR they should know referees can't raise their flag until the offense has concluded anyway...


I dont get how he is still on that team. And dude talks the most shit apparantly in team meetings and stuff about being switched on and not doing the basics..
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 09 2019 21:01 GMT
#3352
DEBATE TIME!!!

https://streamable.com/l1cv4

Salah does this, VAR does not look at it, referee does not even give a foul nor yellow card. For me and my anti Liverpool agenda its a clear red, but ofc thats me :D
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
April 09 2019 21:03 GMT
#3353
this is definitely a dark yellow if not a red card offense, you just cannot do moves like that - Danilo is a lucky man that he hasnt been hurt at all
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 21:13:26
April 09 2019 21:04 GMT
#3354
yeah that should be actionable, shouldnt be able to do that even if its unintentional.

Edit: Wouldnt give him a red though. Yellow would be fine because I sense minor petulance there but no intent to really hurt the guy. Its from the Gilberto Silva school of just foul enough to not get seriously censured.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 09 2019 21:19 GMT
#3355
Someone on reddit argued that Salah is off balance due to being held and that causes the foul, however should it not be called for foul on porto then? As it stands with foul called against Salah, but no card and no review just feels weird
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
April 09 2019 21:20 GMT
#3356
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 21:22:08
April 09 2019 21:21 GMT
#3357
On April 10 2019 06:19 sneirac wrote:
Someone on reddit argued that Salah is off balance due to being held and that causes the foul, however should it not be called for foul on porto then? As it stands with foul called against Salah, but no card and no review just feels weird


Yeah my Liverpool fan friend said the same. And there is a pretty good case for the tug being a foul, but I dont buy the rest of it. He has enough balance to not do that. I think he got a frustrated and got a lick in, he just didnt mean to hurt the guy so its one of those where you just dont try to avoid the contact rather than try to actually stamp.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-10 00:36:35
April 10 2019 00:35 GMT
#3358
On April 10 2019 06:01 Pandemona wrote:
DEBATE TIME!!!

https://streamable.com/l1cv4

Salah does this, VAR does not look at it, referee does not even give a foul nor yellow card. For me and my anti Liverpool agenda its a clear red, but ofc thats me :D

it didn't get a second look because Danilo was man enough to not start screaming immediately afterwards... had this been Neymar, Salah would have had a manslaughter charge laid up on him ...

but i agree that was a reckless challenge assuming there was no ill-intention there, a yellow is the very least he should have received
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-10 08:35:41
April 10 2019 04:15 GMT
#3359
They seem really reclutant to call in VAR review unless it's a clear cut red. I guess it's a bit awkward to review something for minutes only to hand out a yellow or nothing at all.

Edit: Speaking of Delph, who are the left back options for City right now? Mendy had that late nightclubbing thingy Guardiola probably doesn't appreciate at all. After that there's Zinchenko (sidelined with small injury) or Delph I guess. That doesn't sound ideal at all for Guardiola football.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7207 Posts
April 10 2019 08:51 GMT
#3360
On April 10 2019 13:15 Bacillus wrote:
They seem really reclutant to call in VAR review unless it's a clear cut red. I guess it's a bit awkward to review something for minutes only to hand out a yellow or nothing at all.

Edit: Speaking of Delph, who are the left back options for City right now? Mendy had that late nightclubbing thingy Guardiola probably doesn't appreciate at all. After that there's Zinchenko (sidelined with small injury) or Delph I guess. That doesn't sound ideal at all for Guardiola football.



VAR is only used for game changing decisions. A potential (first) yellow isn't quite on the level of red card/ goal.
At least that's what they told us in Germany.
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