EPT2018 - 2019 Football Thread - Page 165
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Dante08
Singapore4201 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On April 03 2019 07:38 sneakyfox wrote: Hope someone is doing a highlight reel of all of Messi's free kick goals in the last month or so. He must have displayed every possible way of putting it in by now. Today he just smashed it straight up into the corner, holy crap Last couple of seasons his free kick ratio is insane. Up there with the greats. It looks like he's taking a penalty kick, chance to score is so high. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 03 2019 14:59 Twisted wrote: Last couple of seasons his free kick ratio is insane. Up there with the greats. It looks like he's taking a penalty kick, chance to score is so high. Best thing is that he isn't that brilliant at penalties so it makes it even more impressive. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
https://michelacosta.com/en/messi-vs-cristiano-ronaldo-penalties-missed-and-scored/ And about the same or slightly above the global football average. He did miss 2 important penalties vs Chelsea and Chile but so did Ronaldo vs Bayern, for example. When you take all the pks, you're bound to miss some. And if you're a top player, GKs are going to study your shooting pattern too. Defenders too, see what they are doing when they have to face a Messi free kick. Now they're having a guy slide below the wall and one run back to the first post, it's ridiculous haha | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 03 2019 21:44 WillyWanker wrote: This thing about Messi being bad at penalty is bs. He has the same % as Crihttps://www.liquiddota.com/mytlnet/mythreads.phpstiano for example. https://michelacosta.com/en/messi-vs-cristiano-ronaldo-penalties-missed-and-scored/ And about the same or slightly above the global football average. He did miss 2 important penalties vs Chelsea and Chile but so did Ronaldo vs Bayern, for example. When you take all the pks, you're bound to miss some. And if you're a top player, GKs are going to study your shooting pattern too. Defenders too, see what they are doing when they have to face a Messi free kick. Now they're having a guy slide below the wall and one run back to the first post, it's ridiculous haha Yeah that myth perpetuates because he missed a couple of big ones. His finishing and efficiency even in live play is off the charts compared to Ronaldo or really anyone else. Given that, the suggestion that he is "bad" at penalties never made intuitive sense to me, but that link if accurate is very useful to throw at people. Thanks for sharing | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28914 Posts
edit: In fact, I don't understand what the 'global conversion rate' is supposed to mean? I assumed the one on top was supposed to be 'every game', but then I see this is only 113 penalties for both players, while the real madrid vs barcelona statistic alone is 188 penalties for ronaldo (scored 160) and 184 penalties for messi (scored 140). Is it something weird like 'global' being supposed to be 'games not played in leagues', so you get ronaldo's portugal performance making him look relatively worse? I'm too busy to go through it all and tally up the numbers, but from looking at the statistics overall, ronaldo does in fact come out with a better % than messi, even if the top number indicates they are the same. So I'd be careful throwing that link around, it seems deliberately misleading to me. | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18763 Posts
But I only think blind messi haters would say hes bad at penalties. He is just worse than Ronaldo, hes still world class | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7435 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
On April 04 2019 19:33 Salteador Neo wrote: I'm a huge Barcelona/Messi fan and I think he is weak at pens. In fact many other supporters I know agree with that. I would not say he is weak at pens. I would say he is average. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
![[image loading]](https://jdsportsblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/CHARTS-03.jpg) Thus we conclude this debate that Mile Jedinak > Messi and Ronaldo at penalties xd | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 04 2019 20:42 WillyWanker wrote: I think it has more to do with the fact that he's exceptional at everything else, so seeing him being average at something makes you feel he's bad at it xD The way he shots makes it look like it as well. Not a lot of unstoppable pens which makes a keeper save more realistic. On the other hand you'll have less shots off targets. | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 04 2019 22:37 Dingodile wrote: Balotelli and Lewandoski are missing imo. Balotelli was like the perfect pen shooter: slow run to have the most chance of picking the opposing side of the keeper and if necessary a strong shot in a corner. | ||
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
On April 04 2019 22:37 Dingodile wrote: Balotelli and Lewandoski are missing imo. There a lot missing. The list is quite random. For example Stuani, the Girona player is 16/16 and Iago Aspas is 16/17. Probably there are missing players in other leagues too. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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