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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
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Last Edited: 2018-04-25 19:39:45
April 25 2018 19:36 GMT
#5121
Lol at Marcelo chasing random ball off the pitch while Bayern started their goal attack. At least he scored one after that. I'm not impressed by Vasquez so far. He is terrible starter. On the other hand fresh Bale joining at the end of the game can do some damage.

Also, Madrid needs new keeper.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18573 Posts
April 25 2018 19:36 GMT
#5122
On April 26 2018 04:35 TheNewEra wrote:
Carvajal is at like 5 fouls and should be by now close to a yellow-red. And then there are probably 2 Real players who could have been carded to. Vasquez himself is also like at 4 fouls. Yet no cards?


The whole Real team has 9 fouls accounted. I think you miscounted a bit?

But yeah no reason not to card Carvajal
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 25 2018 19:37 GMT
#5123
On April 26 2018 04:35 TheNewEra wrote:
Carvajal is at like 5 fouls and should be by now close to a yellow-red. And then there are probably 2 Real players who could have been carded to. Vasquez himself is also like at 4 fouls. Yet no cards?


Of course not. It's Real. That would mean that the ref would have to make real decisions against them.

You remember how this tie went last year.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 25 2018 19:38 GMT
#5124
Yeah I can see this going really bad for Bayern. The 1-0 was a bit lucky, I don't think Bayern really did anything spectacular to deserve the lead, but they've been better after that. 1-1, only one sub left vs Bale + Benzema + Asensio for Madrid. Even with this average Real, good luck.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 25 2018 19:40 GMT
#5125
On April 26 2018 04:38 WillyWanker wrote:
Yeah I can see this going really bad for Bayern. The 1-0 was a bit lucky, I don't think Bayern really did anything spectacular to deserve the lead, but they've been better after that. 1-1, only one sub left vs Bale + Benzema + Asensio for Madrid. Even with this average Real, good luck.


Bayern's looked better at pretty much every stage of the game. Except for a roughly 5 minute spell of Madrid possession, Bayern's made Madrid look very average. Madrid's goal came out of absolutely nowhere.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 19:48:10
April 25 2018 19:44 GMT
#5126
On April 26 2018 04:33 WillyWanker wrote:
Guardiola is 2 seasons ago now. They let Douglas Costa go but didn't buy anyone.

Oh, James I guess. Still going to need to replace those old dudes haha


Dont worry, he needed an excuse to try and bait people who like, Pep.

Pep brought in Thiago, Coman, Kimich, Gotzen, Costa and thats just off the top of my head. Now that some didnt quite work out enough to replace Robben and Ribery is a different story. Not to mention those two are really good still, borrowed time and all.

Not through lack of trying though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember, Sharkie has preconceived opinions and he makes quips that reinforce them, like that Real/rigged comment,he doesnt often know very much. And there he got what he wanted.



On April 26 2018 04:40 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:38 WillyWanker wrote:
Yeah I can see this going really bad for Bayern. The 1-0 was a bit lucky, I don't think Bayern really did anything spectacular to deserve the lead, but they've been better after that. 1-1, only one sub left vs Bale + Benzema + Asensio for Madrid. Even with this average Real, good luck.


Bayern's looked better at pretty much every stage of the game. Except for a roughly 5 minute spell of Madrid possession, Bayern's made Madrid look very average. Madrid's goal came out of absolutely nowhere.


Sure, but they havent really quite looked 1 goal lead better either. I suppose thats debatable though.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18573 Posts
April 25 2018 19:50 GMT
#5127
On April 26 2018 04:44 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:33 WillyWanker wrote:
Guardiola is 2 seasons ago now. They let Douglas Costa go but didn't buy anyone.

Oh, James I guess. Still going to need to replace those old dudes haha


Dont worry, he needed an excuse to try and bait people who like, Pep.

Pep brought in Thiago, Coman, Kimich, Gotzen, Costa and thats just off the top of my head. Now that some didnt quite work out enough to replace Robben and Ribery is a different story. Not to mention those two are really good still, borrowed time and all.

Not through lack of trying though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember, Sharkie has preconceived opinions and he makes quips that reinforce them, like that Real/rigged comment,he doesnt often know very much. And there he got what he wanted.


Nope, that was no bait. Guardiola really missed replacing the old guard at Bayern. Remember how he sold Kroos to get Alonso? Alonso and Lahm retired a a season after he left. Robbery were nowhere near replaced. He tried a few players but who all turned not good enough in the end.
When Heynkes left after the treble the team was full of potential.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 25 2018 19:53 GMT
#5128
Pep tried to bring COman through but he ended up being sold/called back by Juventus and they lost him after Pep left. Other than that yes it was Robbery, Muller and Lewa doing the damage. Thiago also went super sayain.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
April 25 2018 19:53 GMT
#5129
On April 26 2018 04:50 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:44 Rebs wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:33 WillyWanker wrote:
Guardiola is 2 seasons ago now. They let Douglas Costa go but didn't buy anyone.

Oh, James I guess. Still going to need to replace those old dudes haha


Dont worry, he needed an excuse to try and bait people who like, Pep.

Pep brought in Thiago, Coman, Kimich, Gotzen, Costa and thats just off the top of my head. Now that some didnt quite work out enough to replace Robben and Ribery is a different story. Not to mention those two are really good still, borrowed time and all.

Not through lack of trying though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember, Sharkie has preconceived opinions and he makes quips that reinforce them, like that Real/rigged comment,he doesnt often know very much. And there he got what he wanted.


Nope, that was no bait. Guardiola really missed replacing the old guard at Bayern. Remember how he sold Kroos to get Alonso? Alonso and Lahm retired a a season after he left. Robbery were nowhere near replaced. He tried a few players but who all turned not good enough in the end.
When Heynkes left after the treble the team was full of potential.

Guardiola had absolutely nothing to do with selling Kroos and you know it, just another attempt to hate/bait
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 19:58:25
April 25 2018 19:53 GMT
#5130
On April 26 2018 04:50 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:44 Rebs wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:33 WillyWanker wrote:
Guardiola is 2 seasons ago now. They let Douglas Costa go but didn't buy anyone.

Oh, James I guess. Still going to need to replace those old dudes haha


Dont worry, he needed an excuse to try and bait people who like, Pep.

Pep brought in Thiago, Coman, Kimich, Gotzen, Costa and thats just off the top of my head. Now that some didnt quite work out enough to replace Robben and Ribery is a different story. Not to mention those two are really good still, borrowed time and all.

Not through lack of trying though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember, Sharkie has preconceived opinions and he makes quips that reinforce them, like that Real/rigged comment,he doesnt often know very much. And there he got what he wanted.


Nope, that was no bait. Guardiola really missed replacing the old guard at Bayern. Remember how he sold Kroos to get Alonso? Alonso and Lahm retired a a season after he left. Robbery were nowhere near replaced. He tried a few players but who all turned not good enough in the end.
When Heynkes left after the treble the team was full of potential.


A team thats peaked was full of potential lelelel. You could criticise him for not adequately succeeding. But you cant for not trying. Which was your initial implication suggesting that it was his preference to not use them. Which is not a completely honest statement.

He got Kimich for Lahm. Lahm was old when Jupp was there too. What was Jupp doing? hmmmm Heck even Ribery and Robben were old when Jupp was there

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 20:00:26
April 25 2018 19:55 GMT
#5131
Wow James just destroyed Real back 4 lol

Robben was 29 and Ribery was 30 when Pep first got there though, and that exercise his point he didn't replace either of those, he tried Coman who Ancelotti happily sold.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 25 2018 20:01 GMT
#5132
/facepalm

now it's terrible for bayern ^^
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 25 2018 20:01 GMT
#5133
Oh boy.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 20:02:52
April 25 2018 20:01 GMT
#5134
ASENSIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stunning compsure to finish like that tbf haha. But yes, take off Isco and bring on Asensio and you have more threat!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 20:04:43
April 25 2018 20:03 GMT
#5135
On April 26 2018 04:55 Pandemona wrote:
Wow James just destroyed Real back 4 lol

Robben was 29 and Ribery was 30 when Pep first got there though, and that exercise his point he didn't replace either of those, he tried Coman who Ancelotti happily sold.


Man, go read my stuff again, Im tired of having to re-explain shit. If you dont get it, I concede. Cant deal with stupid.

This is what he originally said.

On April 26 2018 04:31 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:30 WillyWanker wrote:
I'm don't really follow Bayern that much, are they plagued with injuries or what? I know Koman is out, but their bench looks very weak. At the start of the game only Thiago and maybe Tolisso look to be CL level. With Robben/Ribery almost 60 already, they need to buy some offensive players next season x)


Well their previous longterm manager didnt leave behind many young players
Guardiola rather played oldies


Which is both factually and in implication incorrect.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 25 2018 20:03 GMT
#5136
You have more threats when the opponent gives you a 1v2 yeah
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 20:04:03
April 25 2018 20:03 GMT
#5137
It seems they are simply the best Team.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 25 2018 20:04 GMT
#5138
On April 26 2018 05:03 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:55 Pandemona wrote:
Wow James just destroyed Real back 4 lol

Robben was 29 and Ribery was 30 when Pep first got there though, and that exercise his point he didn't replace either of those, he tried Coman who Ancelotti happily sold.


Man, go read my stuff again, Im tired of having to re-explain shit. If you dont get it, I concede. Cant deal with stupid.

Being 29 and 30 = old under Jupp who was there in 2013? When they were both under 30, i don't get your point your failing to make xd
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18573 Posts
April 25 2018 20:05 GMT
#5139
On April 26 2018 04:53 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:50 sharkie wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:44 Rebs wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:33 WillyWanker wrote:
Guardiola is 2 seasons ago now. They let Douglas Costa go but didn't buy anyone.

Oh, James I guess. Still going to need to replace those old dudes haha


Dont worry, he needed an excuse to try and bait people who like, Pep.

Pep brought in Thiago, Coman, Kimich, Gotzen, Costa and thats just off the top of my head. Now that some didnt quite work out enough to replace Robben and Ribery is a different story. Not to mention those two are really good still, borrowed time and all.

Not through lack of trying though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember, Sharkie has preconceived opinions and he makes quips that reinforce them, like that Real/rigged comment,he doesnt often know very much. And there he got what he wanted.


Nope, that was no bait. Guardiola really missed replacing the old guard at Bayern. Remember how he sold Kroos to get Alonso? Alonso and Lahm retired a a season after he left. Robbery were nowhere near replaced. He tried a few players but who all turned not good enough in the end.
When Heynkes left after the treble the team was full of potential.


A team thats peaked was full of potential lelelel. You could criticise him for not adequately succeeding. But you cant for not trying. Which was your initial implication suggesting that it was his preference to not use them. Which is not a completely honest statement.

He got Kimich for Lahm. Lahm was old when Jupp was there too. What was Jupp doing? hmmmm Heck even Ribery and Robben were old when Jupp was there



28 year old Lahm is considered old?
Well then I guess there is no manager in the world who leaves young players behind
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 20:09:32
April 25 2018 20:05 GMT
#5140
On April 26 2018 05:04 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 05:03 Rebs wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:55 Pandemona wrote:
Wow James just destroyed Real back 4 lol

Robben was 29 and Ribery was 30 when Pep first got there though, and that exercise his point he didn't replace either of those, he tried Coman who Ancelotti happily sold.


Man, go read my stuff again, Im tired of having to re-explain shit. If you dont get it, I concede. Cant deal with stupid.

Being 29 and 30 = old under Jupp who was there in 2013? When they were both under 30, i don't get your point your failing to make xd


You really should pay attention to what your butting into. Look at my comment. I edited it in because I realised you actually have no idea what is going on.

On April 26 2018 05:05 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2018 04:53 Rebs wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:50 sharkie wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:44 Rebs wrote:
On April 26 2018 04:33 WillyWanker wrote:
Guardiola is 2 seasons ago now. They let Douglas Costa go but didn't buy anyone.

Oh, James I guess. Still going to need to replace those old dudes haha


Dont worry, he needed an excuse to try and bait people who like, Pep.

Pep brought in Thiago, Coman, Kimich, Gotzen, Costa and thats just off the top of my head. Now that some didnt quite work out enough to replace Robben and Ribery is a different story. Not to mention those two are really good still, borrowed time and all.

Not through lack of trying though.

+ Show Spoiler +
Remember, Sharkie has preconceived opinions and he makes quips that reinforce them, like that Real/rigged comment,he doesnt often know very much. And there he got what he wanted.


Nope, that was no bait. Guardiola really missed replacing the old guard at Bayern. Remember how he sold Kroos to get Alonso? Alonso and Lahm retired a a season after he left. Robbery were nowhere near replaced. He tried a few players but who all turned not good enough in the end.
When Heynkes left after the treble the team was full of potential.


A team thats peaked was full of potential lelelel. You could criticise him for not adequately succeeding. But you cant for not trying. Which was your initial implication suggesting that it was his preference to not use them. Which is not a completely honest statement.

He got Kimich for Lahm. Lahm was old when Jupp was there too. What was Jupp doing? hmmmm Heck even Ribery and Robben were old when Jupp was there



28 year old Lahm is considered old?
Well then I guess there is no manager in the world who leaves young players behind


29, sure any player nearing 30 should have succession planning in place. Pep did do it after all he got Kimich didnt he (albiet for different reasons cuz he wanted to put Lahm in the middle, not something I agree with)

All clubs do it, agains succeeding is a different issue which is because often diffuclt or near impossible to adequetly replace players of that calibre. But in Jupps case he didnt even bother. Look at the subs bench during his time. Makes my point.
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