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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
September 21 2016 11:16 GMT
#761
I am quite exited for the leaders match in bundesliga tonight. Although they failed in euro qualifiers, i think its respectable how preetz and dardai turned hertha from a chaos club into a solid one, despite having no money at all.

Bayern vs hertha had some close matches in the past and i think this could be closer than ever because herha is on a run and we struggled vs Ingolstadt.
Respect my authoritah!!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18525 Posts
September 21 2016 11:41 GMT
#762
On September 21 2016 08:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't think speed is required in central midfield especially since Utd have fast wingers. More important is being able to keep the ball so that it can be distributed to the flanks as well as through the middle. If the team can only go through one side and one player like vs. Watford and put in useless crosses then it's even worse than last year's attack. Pogba is doing a lot of things badly but I think most damaging is that he's not used to the pressure in PL so he can't control the ball or the game. Otherwise he seems strong and fast enough even if he's not bursty.

Blind at DM might actually be good as he can put in accurate long range passes and generally has good defensive instincts. His main problem is being too weak, too slow, and bad in the air which can't happen at CD.


Sounds to me you need someone exactly like Schweini...
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 21 2016 13:08 GMT
#763
Why Wasilewski is still playing at top level in Leicester is beyond everyones comprehension.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
September 21 2016 14:01 GMT
#764
The real game tonight is Barça Atletico! It's going to be epic. I'm a bit afraid to have that game so early in the season when both teams aren't fully operational, Atletico's game plan being easier to execute... But I have faith in bearded blond Messi!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18525 Posts
September 21 2016 14:17 GMT
#765
On September 21 2016 23:01 WillyWanker wrote:
The real game tonight is Barça Atletico! It's going to be epic. I'm a bit afraid to have that game so early in the season when both teams aren't fully operational, Atletico's game plan being easier to execute... But I have faith in bearded blond Messi!


Did he say any reason for that crazy image change? While I never liked him as a person I always liked his looks, but now lol
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 21 2016 15:22 GMT
#766
On September 21 2016 20:41 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2016 08:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't think speed is required in central midfield especially since Utd have fast wingers. More important is being able to keep the ball so that it can be distributed to the flanks as well as through the middle. If the team can only go through one side and one player like vs. Watford and put in useless crosses then it's even worse than last year's attack. Pogba is doing a lot of things badly but I think most damaging is that he's not used to the pressure in PL so he can't control the ball or the game. Otherwise he seems strong and fast enough even if he's not bursty.

Blind at DM might actually be good as he can put in accurate long range passes and generally has good defensive instincts. His main problem is being too weak, too slow, and bad in the air which can't happen at CD.


Sounds to me you need someone exactly like Schweini...

They need Carrick and they will be fine in a 4-2-3-1 with Pogba alongside him and Rooney 10 or 4-3-3 with Rooney and Pogba alongside Carrick or something. Or even straight 4-4-2 rooney and ibra with pogba and carrick in middle.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2720 Posts
September 21 2016 18:48 GMT
#767
Bruno scoring against Real Madrid a Panenka penalti xDD

Let's see if Villareal can keep the lead in the second half.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 21 2016 19:41 GMT
#768
Rooney looks bad even against Northampton, offside when he shouldn't be, can't string together simple passes. Smalling is a shell of what he was last season, not sure if it's cuz of injury still. Blind makes an idiotic challenge and gives up a penalty. He really really shouldn't be playing CB. The fact Roony is starting might be hint that he won't play on Saturday.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
September 21 2016 19:45 GMT
#769
2 more goals from Balotelli

maybe France was the reason why Ibra looked like Pele for the past 3 years ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 20:19:55
September 21 2016 20:13 GMT
#770
Ibra has looked like Pele for about as long as Pele looked like Pele.
And Balotelli's problem has never been a lack of abilities, he's just on too much or not enough medication.

From what I've seen of ManU this season, Ibra has been decent in the 2-3 attacks they get every game. Their midfield is a mess and some seem very frustrated at Rooney, who hasn't exactly looked top tier fit for a few seasons now. This season he has shown brief flashes of Premier League quality.

That said, this match looks a little bit better, Rooney seems to be playing higher up and even making some runs. Too static attacking has been their biggest problem this season, Swansea is another team in the PL with the same issue.
But then again, Northampton isn't exactly Premier League quality and still they need a fortunate break to get a decent attack going for the goal.

e. LOL that Rashford goal. Have to feel for the keeper.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
September 21 2016 20:34 GMT
#771
YEah i know about ibra, i was just joking

hopefully balotelli canb make the comeback, i kinda feel for the guy
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
September 21 2016 20:44 GMT
#772
Rocketiiiic! It had to be a header xD
9-man Atletico wall is tough to beat...
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
September 21 2016 21:24 GMT
#773
lel barcelona
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
September 21 2016 21:34 GMT
#774
Balotelli's goals were pure quality btw. The first one was a solid team effot but I don't think I've ever seen him run as much as in that second goal.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
September 21 2016 21:52 GMT
#775
Meh... Draw somewhat logical, but the game was boring compared to previous ones. That's what happens when only one team tries... Well, at least Real didn't win!
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
September 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#776
lmao https://streamable.com/2gdg

where were you when mascherano was kill?

Forward
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 21 2016 22:03 GMT
#777
On September 22 2016 06:59 ZeroChrome wrote:
lmao https://streamable.com/2gdg

where were you when mascherano was kill?



For me that goal is all Griezman though, creating space out of nothing. Next level.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 21 2016 22:25 GMT
#778
ahahahahahaha

best player in the world

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
September 21 2016 23:42 GMT
#779
On September 21 2016 20:41 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2016 08:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't think speed is required in central midfield especially since Utd have fast wingers. More important is being able to keep the ball so that it can be distributed to the flanks as well as through the middle. If the team can only go through one side and one player like vs. Watford and put in useless crosses then it's even worse than last year's attack. Pogba is doing a lot of things badly but I think most damaging is that he's not used to the pressure in PL so he can't control the ball or the game. Otherwise he seems strong and fast enough even if he's not bursty.

Blind at DM might actually be good as he can put in accurate long range passes and generally has good defensive instincts. His main problem is being too weak, too slow, and bad in the air which can't happen at CD.


Sounds to me you need someone exactly like Schweini...

He gave the ball away more than any other midfielders at United. Just rewatch his games and you'll see. He's not strong enough for the constant pressure of English football. Even Pogba is starting to realise that the amount of space he has now is far less than what he used to do back in Italy, where he could work his magic.

to zulu: You have a valid point but keeping the ball is much more demanding and harder to achieve. United could have Modric as their central midfielder for all I know and it wouldn't solve the issue because everyone else upfront would still give it away eventually. You pretty much need to turn United into Barcelona for that to happen, especially in the EPL environment where it's much more physically demanding. So the easiest fix to that is finding someone like Kante who has the stamina and speed to cover the bases, which is also Mourinho's trademark style with Makelele at Chelsea, Cambiaso at Inter and Pepe at Real Madrid.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 06:30:24
September 22 2016 06:20 GMT
#780
On September 22 2016 08:42 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2016 20:41 sharkie wrote:
On September 21 2016 08:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't think speed is required in central midfield especially since Utd have fast wingers. More important is being able to keep the ball so that it can be distributed to the flanks as well as through the middle. If the team can only go through one side and one player like vs. Watford and put in useless crosses then it's even worse than last year's attack. Pogba is doing a lot of things badly but I think most damaging is that he's not used to the pressure in PL so he can't control the ball or the game. Otherwise he seems strong and fast enough even if he's not bursty.

Blind at DM might actually be good as he can put in accurate long range passes and generally has good defensive instincts. His main problem is being too weak, too slow, and bad in the air which can't happen at CD.


Sounds to me you need someone exactly like Schweini...

He gave the ball away more than any other midfielders at United. Just rewatch his games and you'll see. He's not strong enough for the constant pressure of English football. Even Pogba is starting to realise that the amount of space he has now is far less than what he used to do back in Italy, where he could work his magic.

Oh please, the high pressure in the EPL? I have seen Schweini cope with very high pressure just fine.

The reason guys like Pogba or Schweini who come from abroad struggle are their own disjointed teams who don't give the right passing options and who have not build the right mechanisms for pressure evasion etc. The level of tactical cohesion in most EPL teams last year was atrocious compared to teams like Juventus, Barcelona, Bayern, Dortmund.

It wasn't individual quality that held English teams back internationally over the last years. Which is why ManCity will dominate if Guardiola manages to build up a well-oiled machine like he used to in his other teams. Klopp and Conte could also be successful, if they can successfully implement their ideas in a foreign environment (which is much harder than doing it in their home countries Italy and Germany).
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