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city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
September 18 2016 14:54 GMT
#721
End of the line for Mark Hughes?
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 18 2016 15:34 GMT
#722
Crystal Palace fans made thier opinion very vocal.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
September 18 2016 15:35 GMT
#723
What a goal fest this week, only 1 game with less than 3 goals!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18478 Posts
September 18 2016 20:37 GMT
#724
ManUtd only get what they deserve by kicking out Schweini and buying Pogba lol.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
September 18 2016 20:56 GMT
#725
On September 19 2016 05:37 sharkie wrote:
ManUtd only get what they deserve by kicking out Schweini and buying Pogba lol.

Schweini is still a better midfielder than Rooney, of that I am sure.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2716 Posts
September 18 2016 21:44 GMT
#726
On September 18 2016 21:54 evilfatsh1t wrote:
moyes really screwed us over by giving rooney his 5 yr contract. the occasional good showings of his is nowhere near enough to make up for his shit ones.
i really think rooney is the only reason our team is so lost and still plays lvg sideways passing


Do really PL coaches give contract renewals? That sound like a bad idea.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-18 22:03:00
September 18 2016 22:02 GMT
#727
On September 19 2016 06:44 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 21:54 evilfatsh1t wrote:
moyes really screwed us over by giving rooney his 5 yr contract. the occasional good showings of his is nowhere near enough to make up for his shit ones.
i really think rooney is the only reason our team is so lost and still plays lvg sideways passing


Do really PL coaches give contract renewals? That sound like a bad idea.


Well no he doesnt give the contract, but obviously he had a role to play.

But its amazing that people think Rooney is such a big chunk of United being so stale. Sure hes not playing well, but hes not playing poorly either.

Aside from Ibra in general the lack of teeth in the offensive play. I think the problem is Mou is having a hard time getting players to do what he wants to do. Its not that they dont want to do it, but guys like Luke Shaw for example arent jobbers, they are more instinctual players with a penchant for flair, and that doesnt fit well with how Mou likes to set teams up. That causes a contradiction in how half the team wants to play. He does use those players but there is limited slots available for that kind of footy.

Thats basically the puzzle he needs to solve. I think he will, but probably to late to be significant title wise this season.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8713 Posts
September 19 2016 03:50 GMT
#728
On September 19 2016 06:44 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 21:54 evilfatsh1t wrote:
moyes really screwed us over by giving rooney his 5 yr contract. the occasional good showings of his is nowhere near enough to make up for his shit ones.
i really think rooney is the only reason our team is so lost and still plays lvg sideways passing


Do really PL coaches give contract renewals? That sound like a bad idea.

technically no, but the manager decides on whether they want the player or not so....
if it was fergie rooney would have been out the door a long time ago (probably due to a 3rd transfer request)

and for me the players being unable to do what mou wants is mainly because our midfield is incompetent. you cant expect the players to perform their individual tasks when our midfield gets overrun by the likes of watford.
the ball hardly ever gets in the box because were always losing possession in midfield or theres just not enough movement to break anything down.
we have rooney who cant run with pace on counters, cant hold up balls and has a habit of making sideways or backwards passes to the wings.
we have fellaini whos good at breaking up attacks and being annoying but hes no pirlo or scholes when we're in possession.
its basically pogba alone who has to carry the ball from deep all the way to ibra or rashford and like we saw in the last 3 games, teams just 2-3man mark him and pogba has no where to go.
replace rooney with herrera/schneiderlin and we have more movement and support for pogba.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
September 19 2016 04:44 GMT
#729
Interestingly out of the 5 games City have played, other than United, the other 4 teams are now 17, 18, 19 and 20 on the table currently. Maybe a little early to call them title favorites?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 08:13:39
September 19 2016 08:09 GMT
#730
Going to be interesting next few weeks now in the league. Cup games start Tuesday and Wednesday, then Chelsea vs Arsenal on the weekend and Yanited in desperate need to beat Stoke who also in desperate need for points!
On September 19 2016 05:37 sharkie wrote:
ManUtd only get what they deserve by kicking out Schweini and buying Pogba lol.

Also come on Sharkie! Basti is 32 and washed up injury prone and the other is 23 and the future of the game! The biggest problem here with Basti is i lost all respect for him when HE (himself!) choose to sit in Yanited reserves due to his wages are that good and not leave the club to find first team football. He clearly cba with football anymore and don't care. Yanited players also took digs at him in the press saying he is to interesting in watching Ana Ivanovic play tennis than to train to get match fit.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 08:17:43
September 19 2016 08:12 GMT
#731
On September 19 2016 17:09 Pandemona wrote:
Going to be interesting next few weeks now in the league. Cup games start Tuesday and Wednesday, then Chelsea vs Arsenal on the weekend and Yanited in desperate need to beat Stoke who also in desperate need for points!

Stoke are so bad not even United can screw this up. (but that's in 2 weeks, United play Leicester first?)
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
September 19 2016 10:59 GMT
#732
On September 19 2016 13:44 Dante08 wrote:
Interestingly out of the 5 games City have played, other than United, the other 4 teams are now 17, 18, 19 and 20 on the table currently. Maybe a little early to call them title favorites?


Who else would be a title favorite? ManU are going to be shit like usual. They might be able to get more points than they deserve but it will not be enough.
Arsenal and Tottenham are incapable of winning anything, they will always have a shit period that ruins things.
Chelsea has too many point losing flaws and will be unable to be as solid as they need to be.
Leichester won't even get close to defending the title.
And none of the dark horses are dark enough to grab the title i think.

City has the best team and the best manager.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8713 Posts
September 19 2016 11:18 GMT
#733
yeah at the start of the season united and city with maybe chelsea were looking like favourites.
its too early to say but uniteds performances have been completely shit since the city game and dont look anything like contenders while chelsea havent had any reassuring performances either
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28695 Posts
September 19 2016 11:37 GMT
#734
Liverpool can do it!!
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ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
September 19 2016 11:37 GMT
#735
On September 19 2016 13:44 Dante08 wrote:
Interestingly out of the 5 games City have played, other than United, the other 4 teams are now 17, 18, 19 and 20 on the table currently. Maybe a little early to call them title favorites?


Remember last year when they hadn't even conceded a goal in their first 5 games and people were already crowning them champions?
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 15:07:42
September 19 2016 14:49 GMT
#736
I'm not throwing them up for the title or anything but Everton have made a good start and look more of an attacking threat. They will probably fall short again but if the bigger teams do struggle like last year I can see Everton sneaking a top 4. Too early to do anything more than speculate. They're have most played poor teams, but they have been putting them away.

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On September 19 2016 20:37 ZeroChrome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 13:44 Dante08 wrote:
Interestingly out of the 5 games City have played, other than United, the other 4 teams are now 17, 18, 19 and 20 on the table currently. Maybe a little early to call them title favorites?


Remember last year when they hadn't even conceded a goal in their first 5 games and people were already crowning them champions?

There was a pretty good reason for CIty's collapse in form last year
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 19 2016 16:33 GMT
#737
I'd place some money on Mourinho being fired from United before the end of the season if I could
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 19 2016 16:57 GMT
#738
At clubs like Real and Chelsea you could say he might get sacked but not at Yanited. They give managers time to fix things no matter, they are very forgiving with the managers. Even Moyes got 18 months and Van Gaal no idea how he lasted until the end of last season with the shit he gave Yanited fans to watch and results wise.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 19 2016 16:59 GMT
#739
But Mourinho is Mourinho. I have no doubt his less than diplomatic approach to things will bring him an early exit.
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Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 19:26:57
September 19 2016 19:19 GMT
#740
lol I read Rooney still has almost 3 years on his contract...

Can't imagine Mourinho gets sacked, I don't think it's even his fault so much as he just doesn't have the right players. None of his possible centre midfield pairs look good enough, Schneiderlin/Fellaini/Carrick/Rooney/Pogba all pretty meh at CM at this point. Needs to buy two midfielders in the summer imo, a top CDM and a top passer.
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