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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 06:00:47
January 26 2017 06:00 GMT
#2801
And Real is out of the Copa. No treble for them, good good :D
Now I'm not sure it's good news... If Barça qualifies, that means 2 more games. 33% chance tough (Vigo), 33% chance super tough (Atletico), and just 33% ez (Alaves). And then after that PSG In D10S, we trust.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal863 Posts
January 26 2017 09:20 GMT
#2802
On January 26 2017 15:00 WillyWanker wrote:
And Real is out of the Copa. No treble for them, good good :D
Now I'm not sure it's good news... If Barça qualifies, that means 2 more games. 33% chance tough (Vigo), 33% chance super tough (Atletico), and just 33% ez (Alaves). And then after that PSG In D10S, we trust.


D10S? I wasn't aware that Pablo Aimar played for Barcelona.



Good that Real was eliminated and with a terrible game from the Flop Danilo.

In other news. Benfica's 20 year old Gonçalo Guedes is confirmed in PSG for 30M€ plus a % of a future sale in case it's a value above 30M.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 26 2017 09:37 GMT
#2803
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18589 Posts
January 26 2017 10:19 GMT
#2804
Once again this proves how top pro sport is all happening in the mind. ^^
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2018 Posts
January 26 2017 10:43 GMT
#2805
On January 26 2017 18:37 Pandemona wrote:
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?

I think the 40 game undefeated streak gave him enough buffer that he can afford to take a small slump. The real (heh) test is whether they can recover now. Any more fumbles and it's starting to threaten La Liga and UCL.

Would be quite amusing if Sevilla somehow took the league title. Shouldn't happen, but then again it's still much smaller of a miracle than what happened in England last season.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 26 2017 10:50 GMT
#2806
Yeah he has the buffer as you say. It just me personally i have never looked at Real Madrid in the last 12-18 months of "the streak" and saw a team that was breathtaking and looked solid and unbeatable. Was quite the opposite i thought, leaking goals all the time and scraping by with goals here and there was intriguing. Especially after the Wolfsburg humiliation i thought well....However they then went unbeaten and stats are stats whether i agree with them or not.

But yeah he will be jobless if he doesn't deliver the La Liga title at least now i think.
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 11:06:32
January 26 2017 11:05 GMT
#2807
On January 26 2017 19:43 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2017 18:37 Pandemona wrote:
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?

I think the 40 game undefeated streak gave him enough buffer that he can afford to take a small slump. The real (heh) test is whether they can recover now. Any more fumbles and it's starting to threaten La Liga and UCL.

Would be quite amusing if Sevilla somehow took the league title. Shouldn't happen, but then again it's still much smaller of a miracle than what happened in England last season.



It happened with Atleti too when they won la liga, so I'm not so sceptical like before.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2018 Posts
January 26 2017 12:14 GMT
#2808
On January 26 2017 19:50 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah he has the buffer as you say. It just me personally i have never looked at Real Madrid in the last 12-18 months of "the streak" and saw a team that was breathtaking and looked solid and unbeatable. Was quite the opposite i thought, leaking goals all the time and scraping by with goals here and there was intriguing. Especially after the Wolfsburg humiliation i thought well....However they then went unbeaten and stats are stats whether i agree with them or not.

But yeah he will be jobless if he doesn't deliver the La Liga title at least now i think.

Yeah. I completely agree. I don't think Real has looked that spectacular or untouchable, but it's pretty hard to argue with the results.

To me, the real test of character comes exactly in situations like this. In almost anything in life you can do your own thing and if the stars align right, you'll break through big time. The difficult bit comes when the natural approach stops working and you need to figure out how to adjust and change. Seems like Zidane's managerial career has one of those moments ahead right now.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 26 2017 13:26 GMT
#2809
On January 26 2017 18:37 Pandemona wrote:
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?

Yeah, it's finally a test for him, even if they go on winning the CL and the liga I would not say it tells much about Zidane's talent as a coach. He started football manager with some cheats enabled.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8808 Posts
January 26 2017 13:28 GMT
#2810
if he wins the double i think he deserves a lot of credit. he could be a mini-pep
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18589 Posts
January 26 2017 14:12 GMT
#2811
On January 26 2017 22:26 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2017 18:37 Pandemona wrote:
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?

Yeah, it's finally a test for him, even if they go on winning the CL and the liga I would not say it tells much about Zidane's talent as a coach. He started football manager with some cheats enabled.


wait what, if he wins CL (as defending champions) AND La liga it doesn't say much about Zidane? wtf o.o
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18218 Posts
January 26 2017 14:17 GMT
#2812
On January 26 2017 23:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2017 22:26 nojok wrote:
On January 26 2017 18:37 Pandemona wrote:
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?

Yeah, it's finally a test for him, even if they go on winning the CL and the liga I would not say it tells much about Zidane's talent as a coach. He started football manager with some cheats enabled.


wait what, if he wins CL (as defending champions) AND La liga it doesn't say much about Zidane? wtf o.o

He'd be the first to win back-to-back CL (since its CL format. I think Madrid, Ajax and Munich all did it in the 60s/70s, and maybe one of the Milan teams too). That alone should say something about him. I'm no fan of Madrid, but results speak.

Not that I think RM is going to win the CL this year, but of the "usual" contenders, they are the most solid looking.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal863 Posts
January 26 2017 14:29 GMT
#2813
On January 26 2017 23:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2017 23:12 sharkie wrote:
On January 26 2017 22:26 nojok wrote:
On January 26 2017 18:37 Pandemona wrote:
Zidane finally getting exposed. How he plays Benzema week in week out is beyond me. Went from 40 games unbeaten to 3 losses in 4?

Yeah, it's finally a test for him, even if they go on winning the CL and the liga I would not say it tells much about Zidane's talent as a coach. He started football manager with some cheats enabled.


wait what, if he wins CL (as defending champions) AND La liga it doesn't say much about Zidane? wtf o.o

He'd be the first to win back-to-back CL (since its CL format. I think Madrid, Ajax and Munich all did it in the 60s/70s, and maybe one of the Milan teams too). That alone should say something about him. I'm no fan of Madrid, but results speak.

Not that I think RM is going to win the CL this year, but of the "usual" contenders, they are the most solid looking.


It was not that unusual to have team winning back to back the Champions League back in the day.

The way i see it was because Football wasn't like an open market back then, and when you had a great team you would stay would that team throughout a generation.

Since I have a serious sickness with Benfica and i can't stop talking about it, you can take as an example the Benfica team in the 60s where we went to 5 finals in 8 years.

below the teams that won back to back

Milan 88/89 and 89/90
Nottingham Forest 78/79 and 79/80
Liverpool 76/77 and 77/78
Bayern Munich 73/74 74/75 and 75/76
Ajax 70/71 71/72 and 72/73
Internazionale 63/64 and 64/65
Benfica 60/61 and 61/62
Real Madrid 5 in a row from 55/56 to 59/60
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 26 2017 20:26 GMT
#2814
samuel eto'o is the only one that won the treble back to back. Barca 2008/2009 and Inter 2009/2010.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-26 20:41:53
January 26 2017 20:38 GMT
#2815
Video review used in the Dutch cup:

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7021833/5ab5a804

Nice example of how it can work to the benefit of the game, however 3 gripes.
- that initial call looks really bad
- takes almost a minute until the referee signals for review, that could surely be faster
- this one is so obvious on the replay that it should have been called without ref looking at it himself
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 16:00:27
January 28 2017 14:49 GMT
#2816
Liverpool lose again! That's only 1 win in 2017 for Jurgen Klopp's side which was a replay against league 2 Plymouth. Panic stations?

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 15:22:30
January 28 2017 15:02 GMT
#2817
Pedro playing right wing back for Chelsea today haha :D
Ok sick Willian freekick
and now Pedro right wing back just finished delightfully to make it 2 inside 20 minute :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-28 15:51:42
January 28 2017 15:49 GMT
#2818
lol spurs
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 28 2017 16:55 GMT
#2819
A pity kenedy couldn't do his dribbling things today. Wasn't given much time and space. Also felt ake was playing too safe. Can see why mediocre Alonso is still the number one choice. He offers constant width. Imagine if Ashley Cole was still with us!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 28 2017 17:01 GMT
#2820
Fun game though, Loftus-Cheek just hits target no matter where he shots from it's great.

Spurs fluke a 4-3 win which is annoying! Rafa losing 3-0 to Oxford united of league 1. Lincoln city beat championship leaders 3-1 after being 1-0 down, they are from league 2. Some big upsets there and some lesser teams in the hat for a big draw against a prem side hopefully.
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