2016 - 2017 Football Thread - Page 112

On December 20 2016 10:44 WillyWanker wrote:
About Özil... I feel that this player is just not made to play in nowadays' football. In a slower paced era, he would be amazing. But 10s these days don't exist anymore. Or they have to do more than just being a 10. Now you have players better at defending which is much better for a team's balance. However, that doesn't mean the player can't realize this and do the efforts to be a better player; but everyone knows Özil isn't exactly super professional.

No Real fan misses Özil. Now they have Modric + Kroos. That's the same offensive power + still strong defensively.

On December 20 2016 13:58 Dante08 wrote:


No one was saying this last season when he racked up tons of assists. One bad game and he's not meant to play in today's football?? He's not the only player that doesn't track back you know..

On December 20 2016 13:58 Dante08 wrote:


No one was saying this last season when he racked up tons of assists. One bad game and he's not meant to play in today's football?? He's not the only player that doesn't track back you know..

On December 20 2016 18:00 Pandemona wrote:

What no Chelsea fan QQd cesc for his playstyle none of them. They QQd him when they thought he was the rat that helped get Jose fired thats it. When he first joined us in our title winning season he was amazing, following season like everyone else was awful and the manager disappeared. This season he is great but is working his way into the side. Pedro on the other hand struggled to get into the side but no Chelsea fan said anything about his playstyle not suiting to this generation, more of the he doesn't look good enough right now.

I can go onto Chelsea forums right now and there is calls for Cesc to be our captain when Cahill doesn't play! Thats how much respect he has now which is madness when you think the guy was groomed by Wenger. But hey he kisses the badge so

On December 20 2016 23:40 Pandemona wrote:
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On December 20 2016 23:54 Pandemona wrote:
No change, they were a joke last seasosn, now they have changed. If you ever read or listened to Conte his plan has always been to get the team playing again as a group and to show the fans this as well. Which they have done, big article about him turning up to Staff party (first chelsea manager since Ancelotti to do this) where his plan was to make the fans support us again and cut the groups of chelsea players up as they all were in separate "clicks" like high school. That happened last season which spiraled out of control.

No one ever said Cesc was a bad player like they do with Ozil or say he is washed up or at least non Chelsea fans. They just said he was a rat which is nothing to do with his footballing prowess is it. He also has proven this year that he really wants to stay by being a "bit" part player so far and still producing great performances and really trying. Man management from Conte been superb. Attitude from Cesc second to none.

On December 20 2016 16:30 WillyWanker wrote:

At the very top level I mean. He's 'only' playing in Arsenal after all =D
I'm not saying he's bad, just not fit to compete with the very best. He's not consistent enough to afford to not track back. And I do love this kind of player, even if it wasn't apparent in my words. It just doesn't work. Or you have to have people behind you that run for 2, like Pirlo had a few years ago. But even then, in games where you don't have the ball enough, you suffer more by fielding him than benching him.

And for Fabregas... He was great in Arsenal, but since then he's not done anything when it mattered. In Barcelona, he was good the first few months of each season then always disappeared.

On December 21 2016 00:20 Pandemona wrote:
With the rat stuff, they have proven themselves with the manager who made them prove themselves. If you followed the club you would know that, if you read the interview i mentioned you would get clarity on that. Costa kisses the badge every goal, Cesc the same they have earned the respect back. Now im not saying that if they didn't kiss the badge the fans wouldn't be calling them the best players in the world because i know that don't happen. But what these players are doing from being the rats are proving to us as fans they are either sorry and showing they are commitment or they are saying wait i love this club too we are not rats. Either way, last season they all were questioned cuz they went from champions to championship within a 6 week break.

Now social media fans are not the basis, Chelsea fans love mourinho and always will, he help make us the champion filled squad and power house we are today. He is always welcomed back and always will be our greatest manager in history (so far i guess...) No real Chelsea fan would have anything but admiration for the bloke, now that isn't to say they would want him to succeed at Yanited cuz no that isn't the case.

On December 20 2016 10:44 WillyWanker wrote:
About Özil... I feel that this player is just not made to play in nowadays' football. In a slower paced era, he would be amazing. But 10s these days don't exist anymore. Or they have to do more than just being a 10. Now you have players better at defending which is much better for a team's balance. However, that doesn't mean the player can't realize this and do the efforts to be a better player; but everyone knows Özil isn't exactly super professional.

No Real fan misses Özil. Now they have Modric + Kroos. That's the same offensive power + still strong defensively.