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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 08 2016 04:29 GMT
#361
On June 08 2016 10:24 Enki wrote:
Apparently Kimbo was in dire need of a heart transplant before he died www.bloodyelbow.com

Brings up a lot of questions though because heart issues take awhile to manifest. Wonder how they missed all this in the pre-fight medicals. Also wondering if this contributed to him getting fatigued so quickly when he started fighting for promotions. Not making excuses for this performances in his later years but it was always bad......curious if the warning signs were already there. Then again I am speculating because I am not a doctor after all.

the fight was in texas
he was also busted for steroids
© Current year.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 05:08:01
June 08 2016 05:06 GMT
#362
Helwani stuck a wrench in the UFC promotional machinery. He should focus on doing 95% of the quality reporting he usually does and avoid the gossip reveal crap. That stuff only compromises 5% of all the stories he does. He knows the difference between asking Rockhold tough in depth post fight questions about his title loss and the kind of gossip stuff he revealed leading up to UFC 199 about Lesnar.

He needs to let the UFC promotional machinery do its thing and get its full bang for its buck. Although this might mean sitting on the odd "shock reveal" it is his best long term move.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 08 2016 05:19 GMT
#363
gossip?
hes batting 1000
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
June 08 2016 05:22 GMT
#364
he is not uncovering the Penn State child molestation scandal he is doing an early reveal of a scheduled promo.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
June 08 2016 11:18 GMT
#365
On June 08 2016 10:24 Enki wrote:
Apparently Kimbo was in dire need of a heart transplant before he died www.bloodyelbow.com

Brings up a lot of questions though because heart issues take awhile to manifest. Wonder how they missed all this in the pre-fight medicals. Also wondering if this contributed to him getting fatigued so quickly when he started fighting for promotions. Not making excuses for this performances in his later years but it was always bad......curious if the warning signs were already there. Then again I am speculating because I am not a doctor after all.


You cannot know for sure what was his issue without access to his medical record, it's possible for example that he had an acute cardiac event that detroyed a major part of his heart (it could be a thrombotic event, an infection...), to the extent that the only solution was a heart transplant.
Speculating without information is useless.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 04:26:21
June 09 2016 04:20 GMT
#366
more reasons to dislike rousey in this 2 hour meandering maudlin monologue by everyone's favourite Montreal Expos fan.


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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 05:57:17
June 09 2016 05:55 GMT
#367
not like that was going to turn anyone against rousey that didn't already dislike her. Sharing a 2 hour long video without a summary is pretty useless

tldw: rousey mad at helwani for asking travis about the dating situation even though travis/rousey both ok'ed the question to be asked in an interview. That was the reason for him not getting interviews with her in Melbourne
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 09 2016 12:39 GMT
#368
On June 08 2016 10:24 Enki wrote:
Apparently Kimbo was in dire need of a heart transplant before he died www.bloodyelbow.com

Brings up a lot of questions though because heart issues take awhile to manifest. Wonder how they missed all this in the pre-fight medicals. Also wondering if this contributed to him getting fatigued so quickly when he started fighting for promotions. Not making excuses for this performances in his later years but it was always bad......curious if the warning signs were already there. Then again I am speculating because I am not a doctor after all.

Makes that Dada5000 vs Kimbo fight even more irresponsible in hindsight.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-09 17:27:10
June 09 2016 14:05 GMT
#369
On June 09 2016 14:55 CorsairHero wrote:Sharing a 2 hour long video without a summary is pretty useless

the summary was provided above the video. However, i'll expand on my summary in order to assuage your complaint even though its off topic.
+ Show Spoiler +

"meandering" : we go from why Ariel's 2nd son is named "walter" to why he is a proud canadian to how syracuse university is the greatest ever.
"monologue" : 2 hours of an Ariel Helwani manifesto.
"maudlin" : Ariel crying on camera for several minutes because he might no longer be able to cover MMA and then minutes later he affirms he is not "going away". Ariel upset because he could not do post fight interviews and analysis for UFC 199.

no idea what that stuff has to do with MMA on a show called the "MMA Hour" though. This was like the "Sammy Maudlin Show" except it was real.



On June 09 2016 14:55 CorsairHero wrote:
tldw: rousey mad at helwani for asking travis about the dating situation even though travis/rousey both ok'ed the question to be asked in an interview. That was the reason for him not getting interviews with her in Melbourne

as i stated: another reason to not like rousey. no wonder Ariel looked like the cat that swallowed the canary in his post fight interview with Ms. Holm's team at UFC 193.

USADA testing rules waived to get Lesnar into UFC 200. Hunt says Lesnar is "juiced to the gills".
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/6/9/11894188/mark-hunt-on-brock-lesnar-i-think-hes-juiced-to-the-gills-ufc-200
kudos to Hunt for taking the fight.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
June 16 2016 14:27 GMT
#370
UFC for sale. $4 billion for 100% ownership.

http://www.f4wonline.com/june-20-2016-wrestling-observer-newsletter-ufc-199nxt-takeover-reviews-ufc-ownership-bidding-ending

Meltzer reports on stuff like this and doesn't get banned for life. Meltzer also reports on PPV buy rates another thing the UFC does not reveal.
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tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
June 16 2016 15:16 GMT
#371
4 billion? rofl

propz to dana white, he's gonna make a hell lot of money
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2016 16:20 GMT
#372
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 16 2016 17:27 GMT
#373
On June 17 2016 01:20 JimmiC wrote:
Doesn't even sound like that much really like the entire UFC is worth basically the cowboys + Man united.


Actually Dallas alone are 4B$ but thats some crazy amount of money to be asking for , do we know they revenue and net income ? i dont think they worth that much but you never know.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14144 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 19:58:33
June 16 2016 18:45 GMT
#374
On June 17 2016 02:27 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:20 JimmiC wrote:
Doesn't even sound like that much really like the entire UFC is worth basically the cowboys + Man united.


Actually Dallas alone are 4B$ but thats some crazy amount of money to be asking for , do we know they revenue and net income ? i dont think they worth that much but you never know.

And I don't think that Man united is that far behind Dallas either. Especially with a decent year in champions league and the new TV deals for premier league teams.

You'd think that they'd keep dana white on to manage the company even after they buy his stocks out with it.

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/16258572/bidding-buy-ufc-drawing-closer-conclusion

The two bid groups, WME-IMG in conjunction with Dalian Wanda Group, and China Media Capital, had similar bids in the $4.1 billion range, sources said.

Sources said that both bidding groups are still trying to completely finance the buyout, which would be for the entire company. Which company ultimately wins out might depend on the details of that financing. Sources say WME co-chair Ari Emanuel has been asking well-heeled investors to chip in $25 million to $50 million.

One of those investors that said yes, according to sources, was the Kraft Group, which owns the New England Patriots and the New England Revolution. A Kraft Group spokesman declined comment.

The WME-IMG bid with Dalian also is said to include Tencent Holdings, one of the 10 largest internet companies in the world. State-backed investment firm China Media Capital has been bankrolling many projects, including a five-year broadcast-rights deal with China's top-tier soccer league worth $1.3 billion.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
June 17 2016 01:07 GMT
#375
On June 17 2016 02:27 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:20 JimmiC wrote:
Doesn't even sound like that much really like the entire UFC is worth basically the cowboys + Man united.


Actually Dallas alone are 4B$ but thats some crazy amount of money to be asking for , do we know they revenue and net income ? i dont think they worth that much but you never know.


i don't think the Cowboys are worth as much as Man United and neither team is close to being worth $4 Billion.
i think the Dallas Cowboys are worth about as much as the New York Yankees.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 01:33:05
June 17 2016 01:30 GMT
#376
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 02:22:45
June 17 2016 02:13 GMT
#377
On June 17 2016 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
You clearly read the out dated article that I did with Cowboys and yankee's at 1.85 billion and Man u at 2.3 billion. I do like how you try to write it like you some how just know this and didn't look it up.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45ikdf/2-real-madrid-2/

However Bluzi is more current with his info.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/13654728/forbes-list-ranks-dallas-cowboys-sports-most-valuable-franchise-4-billion


it was discussed on Mccown's PrimeTime Sports recently. that is why i'm fuzzy on details. and they disputed the value of the Cowboys for some reason. ur paranoia is good for a laugh though. the forbes list is a list of guesses.

On June 17 2016 10:30 JimmiC wrote:
You clearly read the out dated article that I did

its great how you can claim you know what i'm reading, watching, and hearing. you're my #1 fan.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 02:31:03
June 17 2016 02:29 GMT
#378
There was a question about UFC's revenue.

This is from Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

"Here’s a few notes on UFC finances and these aren’t estimates but actual numbers. In 2014, UFC grossed $449,008,000 and posted a $73,957,000 profit. That was the year everything went wrong with injuries and such. In 2015, the year Ronda Rousey and Conor McGregor got hot, they grossed $608,629,000 and posted a $157,806,000 profit. As compared with WWE, they grossed slightly less but posted more than six times the profit. It should be noted that doesn’t include interest payments on their loans, which were $22,797,000 in 2014 and $21,767,000 in 2015."

http://www.f4wonline.com/
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 02:52:55
June 17 2016 02:48 GMT
#379
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17596 Posts
June 17 2016 03:37 GMT
#380
trying to guess the values of other sports teams doesn't really tell us much.

this is why i posted Meltzer's revenue and profit #s of the UFC in 2014 and 2015.
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