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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18014 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 16:29:13
March 17 2019 12:39 GMT
#2121
Amazing KO in the main event last night. The speech by Jorge Masvidal after the fight was really good.

Pretty Cool Interview.

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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
March 18 2019 07:26 GMT
#2122
The opening flying dick kick made me laugh so much, then with the early knockdown i thought that it was going to be an easy fight for Till, he looked so much bigger than masvidal. But then Masvidal showed how game and technical he was, but i still thought he couldn't hurt Till and that he would eventually get countered (there was no way this fight was going to a decision the way they fought).
Of course it ended up with masivdal knocking Till into another dimension, that was brutal.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
March 18 2019 12:33 GMT
#2123
Till is probably too drained for this division but if he gets knocked out by a small welterweight like Masvidal, he's going to get destroyed at middleweight.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 18 2019 12:40 GMT
#2124
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18014 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 19:57:43
March 19 2019 19:53 GMT
#2125
You must subscribe to ESPN+ to have the ability to order a UFC PPV inside the USA. it is a 7 year deal between the UFC and ESPN+. Outside USA PPV purchasing remains the same. ESPN gave the UFC a giant pile of cash.

Before this deal the price used to be $65 USD. The UFC PPV price will now be $60 USD. ESPN+ is $5 USD. So the price remains the same. The broadcast will be streamed and not TV broadcast so consumers with weak internet connections might face issues.

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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 20 2019 01:55 GMT
#2126
On March 20 2019 04:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
You must subscribe to ESPN+ to have the ability to order a UFC PPV inside the USA. it is a 7 year deal between the UFC and ESPN+. Outside USA PPV purchasing remains the same. ESPN gave the UFC a giant pile of cash.

Before this deal the price used to be $65 USD. The UFC PPV price will now be $60 USD. ESPN+ is $5 USD. So the price remains the same. The broadcast will be streamed and not TV broadcast so consumers with weak internet connections might face issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEFTBtZ0S18


I think for enthusiasts it won't be a big deal, now you get ESPN+ for free essentially, you can buy the yearly pass for $80 which comes with one PPV, so essentially $20 for one year of ESPN+.

I would think that it's going to be an issue for a lot of people though. Having only one provider for PPV, some people are used to doing it one way and the hassle of subscribing to a service will turn a lot of people off.

I guess UFC's logic was that ESPN will give them a high percentage cut of the PPV, and for ESPN its good, because it gets all legally streaming UFC fans to ESPN. To me it seems like a step away from PPV and a step towards subscription model. I mean if the UFC is getting $300mil a year from ESPN, and per year, they sell what, 4-5mil PPV's, at say an average 60% share (since traditionally it was 50/50, and more on their website, etc.) That's like $180mil~, so PPV is making less and less sense for them too.

We will see what it means for growth though, in theory they do have a large sports audience to tap in to at ESPN, but idk, I've always felt like UFC targeted a bit of a different audience than the typical NHL/NBA crap, so I do think it's going to hamper their growth with those people, which is a bummer, as I dislike watching all big league team sports, and his they're structured. Just seems like the typical sell out move, imo.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18014 Posts
March 20 2019 18:32 GMT
#2127
TJ Dillashaw surrendered the 135 lb belt. He was probably about to get stripped. He is fined and suspended by NYSAC.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/3/20/18274029/tj-dillashaw-adverse-usada-findings-ufc-brooklyn-relinquishes-ufc-title
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 20 2019 19:06 GMT
#2128
Garbrant called it too
https://streamable.com/p6ejc

Losing the chance for the 125 belt in 30 seconds in the cage and losing the 135 belt without getting in the cage lmao
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 21 2019 04:24 GMT
#2129
Interesting on how it'll play out. Now the question is what they'll do for Bantamweight. Moraes is a given, but vs who. Cejudo, Aljamain, or Munhoz are the options.

As far as I'm concerned, Moraes has a 17 fight win streak. Imo do Benavides vs Formiga for title eliminator, in mean time have Cejudo go for the belt. Too many good guys at 135 that should battle for position.

I'm good with Petr Yan, Aljamain, Munhoz, and Lineker getting a title shot with one convincing win. Match 2 of them up with the old guard (Rivera, Assuncao, and Cruz), and two of the four against each other, and let chaos theory do it's thing.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 26 2019 12:39 GMT
#2130
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
March 26 2019 14:35 GMT
#2131
On March 26 2019 21:39 JimmiC wrote:
Connor announced his "retirement" hes so inactive I really wouldnt care. He also got dummied by the eagle and mayweather so the mystical mac persona is mostly gone. I would watch him fight diaz again so diaz could win 2 out tgree. Otherwise im sick of all the drama none of the fights and the wannabes like covington.


Agreed.
Conor's bullshit detracted from the sport, it didn't add anything useful at all.
RIP Meatloaf <3
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-26 15:13:11
March 26 2019 15:10 GMT
#2132
On March 26 2019 23:35 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2019 21:39 JimmiC wrote:
Connor announced his "retirement" hes so inactive I really wouldnt care. He also got dummied by the eagle and mayweather so the mystical mac persona is mostly gone. I would watch him fight diaz again so diaz could win 2 out tgree. Otherwise im sick of all the drama none of the fights and the wannabes like covington.


Agreed.
Conor's bullshit detracted from the sport, it didn't add anything useful at all.


Yup, don't care for him either. If he fights 3x per year, and takes a fight and Max and somebody else in the top 5, wins, and fights Khabib shortly after, I'll care.

At this point I'm more likely to buy a PPV to watch Ben, Maycee, Stylebender, Costa, Moraes, and all the up and comers.

Also, his whiskey is shit, you're better off buying something from a plastic bottle for $15.

A person like Jon Jones is much better for MMA, even with the controversy, because he cares about legacy and breaking records, and fans care for that stuff.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 26 2019 18:11 GMT
#2133
his management won't even confirm it
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 26 2019 19:01 GMT
#2134
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18014 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-26 20:06:07
March 26 2019 20:05 GMT
#2135
McG in more trouble with the law... allegedly.
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/26365820/report-mcgregor-sexual-assault-inquiry
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 27 2019 16:49 GMT
#2136
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 18:32:18
March 27 2019 18:28 GMT
#2137
On March 28 2019 01:49 JimmiC wrote:
According to Chael Sonnen (so take it with a grain of salt) Jon Jones vs Stipe at HW is in the works. This is a fight I would watch for sure. And sets up the winner vs DC as another must watch fight. I guess time will tell but I would very much be in favor.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mma/sonnen-says-there-is-a-fight-in-the-works-between-jones-and-miocic/ar-BBViJzv


Yup, fight to make for sure.

Fights like Smith and Santos won't do much for Jones and his legacy, must be hard to wake up for training if you know that a dominant decision is almost a loss rather than a win. Jones taking two fights at HW is a good idea, let LHW develop a little bit.

I think Reyes, Santos, Walker, or Corey all need 2 wins to make a convincing match up against Jones. Maybe Santos with one more solid KO win can make a claim, but idk.

Jones being a - 800 favorite isn't super super exciting. I'm glad he's staying busy though.

As much as I don't like Cuckhold, I think that's a fight that fans would be into as well. Should be a pretty good match up too, since he's good technically, just a weaker chin, but that could be the dehydration, and Jones isn't the hardest hitter.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 27 2019 19:50 GMT
#2138
dc jones better happen fast cause dc is getting old
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
March 27 2019 22:05 GMT
#2139
I doubt DC vs Jones 3 is going to happen. Too many missed dates and fights that dc lost IRL but won on paper.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 22:13:11
March 27 2019 22:12 GMT
#2140
On March 28 2019 07:05 Sermokala wrote:
I doubt DC vs Jones 3 is going to happen. Too many missed dates and fights that dc lost IRL but won on paper.


Meh, I don't think he has much too lose, and a lot to gain legacy wise. Jon is down for it, fans are down for it. Imo bigger chance DC fights Jones than Brock.

Brock is 41, without steroids, not a chance he walks into the UFC imo. There's nobody left for DC to fight outside of Jon vs Stipe winner if that ends up happening. It's that, or he retires.

I'd take that last 5+ million fight if I were him and ride off into the sunset. At HW I'd give him a 40% chance of beating Jones too.
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