EPT2015 UFC/MMA Discussion Thread - Page 64
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JimmiC
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On August 02 2015 16:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: thanks for teh link and heads up. now the security guys surrounding teh Shields team makes more sense...they were afraid of a 2nd brawl. the Eye Gauges by Paul Harris were just too much. Dana looks like a genius for firing this clown. When Hector Lombard says it was a late tap, you know a guy has issues. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On August 04 2015 22:14 JimmiC wrote: really great video, joe seams like such a normal dude. Also his house looks so normal. It really makes me want to see some more fights where the dick gets destroyed. Sadly who would take a fight with him? and why should they? On another not Dana always said that mazagotti was the worst ever, and here is more proof that this wasn't a case of Dana over blowing shit. How that guy gets work in major promotions and main events is beyond me. I random fan could do a better job. Ngyen vs Jultz | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
Ariel is grilling the WSOF Prez about how long the suspension is... and the NSAC is apparently still investigating the fight. Next NSAC hearing is August 13th but its not known if the Paul Harris thing is dealt with at that point. Apparently, its still possible for NSAC to overturn the decision of the fight itself. | ||
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PanN
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
just typing in "Paul" without even getting to the "Harris" part.. causes this to be the first link to come up. http://mmajunkie.com/2015/05/rousimar-palhares-open-letter-to-jake-shields-talk-now-because-youre-running-out-of-time any how, here is a write-up on the title strip and suspension http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/8/4/9095949/wsof-strips-rousimar-palhares-of-title-suspends-him-indefinitely | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/13402162/cris-cyborg-justino-willing-fight-ronda-rousey-135-pounds-december i love how Cyborg's camp blabs about it and then 1 of the management guys then says "i don't negotiate in the media". They are yapping to the media to pressure and corner the UFC and get a better deal for Cyborg. Whether you like Rousey or not , she deserves at least 5X as much money as Cyborg and probably more. Just check out the buy rate on teh Carano v. Cyborg fight to see what kind of draw Cyborg is. Cyborg struggles to put together a coherent english sentence while Rousey says all the right things to sell tickets. That recent bullshit about lengthening the fight with Corriea was nicely done by Rousey. Also, her recent comments about Tate always bringing something new to a fight were pretty much aimed at selling tickets. Cyborg can't do any of that kind of promotion. Rousey is no english stage actor , but she definitely gets the job done when it comes to promoting a fight. | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
As for the Rousey-Cyborg deal, I just wish Cyborg would shut the fuck up about Rousey dodging. Nobody is dodging, they all say that if you get to 135 and have at least one fight at that weight than you will get a title shot. I swear Cyborg spews shit out of her mouth every day about how scared Ronda is, it's getting old. Forgot to link this, whoops. www.bloodyelbow.com | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
If the UFC gets suckered into making a deal with Cyborg for a Dallas Stadium show in December it would not surprise me 1 bit for Cyborg to show up and weigh in at 140. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ldqMF3e.jpg) Rogan weighs in with this instagram comment https://instagram.com/p/6Id_YypyNh/ | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
its Mcgregor v. Aldo on December 12th in Las Vegas. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/dana-white--aldo-mcgregor-set-for-dec--12-at-mgm-grand-in-las-vegas-004231499.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw | ||
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GrapeApe
1053 Posts
On August 10 2015 10:22 Enki wrote: No fighter made more than 10k last night. That is pretty depressing. I get that they aren't cream of the crop as far as the UFC goes, but still. That is really meager considering all the months of training leading up to the fight. Just reaffirms my belief that this Reebok deal is fucking dogshit. As for the Rousey-Cyborg deal, I just wish Cyborg would shut the fuck up about Rousey dodging. Nobody is dodging, they all say that if you get to 135 and have at least one fight at that weight than you will get a title shot. I swear Cyborg spews shit out of her mouth every day about how scared Ronda is, it's getting old. Forgot to link this, whoops. www.bloodyelbow.com What is your definition of dodging? Because telling 1 person you'll fight them at 140 and then telling another person you won't fight them at 140 kind of sounds like dodging to me :\ Also, it probably really sucks for Cyborg to constantly listen to Rousey claim she can beat up guys like Mayweather, but can't move up 5 pounds to fight a catchweight. The titles don't matter, this is a legacy fight and it will be criminal to the history of WMMA if it doesn't happen. What happened to Super Fight Dana White? On August 11 2015 11:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote: so much for Cyborg v. Rousey in a Dallas Stadium. its Mcgregor v. Aldo on December 12th in Las Vegas. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/dana-white--aldo-mcgregor-set-for-dec--12-at-mgm-grand-in-las-vegas-004231499.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw Ugh, so far away. If this fight gets called off again I will cry. On August 10 2015 12:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Carano is a big 145-er. She had great difficulty making 145. And Cyborg overpowered her and was much stronger than her. I have no clue how Cyborg makes 135. If the UFC gets suckered into making a deal with Cyborg for a Dallas Stadium show in December it would not surprise me 1 bit for Cyborg to show up and weigh in at 140. Yeah, I agree. And if she does manage to get to 135...what sort of shape will that leave her in? Her last fight was 144.6 I do believe. But yeah, I know her nutritionist is confident she can make 135 no problem, so maybe he's a wizard or something. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23244 Posts
Just made me laugh a little. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
On August 11 2015 18:18 ninazerg wrote: Carano has fought at 135 before and catchweight at 138, so it's not inconceivable that she could still do it. But watch her fight with Kaitlyn Young. She's so obviously out of shape and spent most of her time in EliteXC struggling to make weight and having difficultly with stamina during her later fights. I dunno, I just think her other obligations that she made took up too much of her time and she didn't train properly. i met Carano in person in a grocery store line up. i'm over 6 feet tall.. and let me tell you .. they are very careful how they film her. she is a big, big girl... and 1 of the most beautiful women i've ever met in person. oh , and UFC 190 had more PPV buys than 189 UFC 190 : 900,000 UFC 189 : 825,000 http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/ The heavyweight title PPV only drew 300,000 buys. | ||
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GrapeApe
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GreenHorizons
United States23244 Posts
On August 12 2015 00:36 GrapeApe wrote: PPV numbers for UFC fights just make me depressed. I'd like to see them try a big fight with a lower price point (like $19.99) and see how that impacted the numbers (buys and Gross$) | ||
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GrapeApe
1053 Posts
On August 12 2015 08:11 GreenHorizons wrote: I'd like to see them try a big fight with a lower price point (like $19.99) and see how that impacted the numbers (buys and Gross$) I can't claim to be at all knowledgeable about this kind of stuff, but didn't Killashaw/Barao 2 peak at like 3.8 million viewers on fox? That is comparable to an NHL game, regular season MLB game, and a NASCAR race (i think). Obviously we're not talking top of the American sports ladder, but your numbers are putting you into the discussion of major sports (and set you up for catching them, considering something like nascar viewership has been falling every year). So, I guess I am curious: If your PPVs are doing less than a million buys, in a lot of cases less than 500k, and your lower weight class title fight draws 3.8 million...why the fuck are you still doing PPVs vs trying to restructure? Dana White runs off at the mouth about (everything) how he wants the UFC to become a legitimate sport, but PPV will never build and sustain a legitimate sport, imo. This hybrid combo will never build and sustain a legitimate sport. I would definitely like to see a major card with a significantly reduced price tag, or a couple consistent AWESOME tv cards with major fights to see what sort of back-to-back UFC weekends would do on TV. Hopefully they get a better TV deal this next time around and are able to really push fight cards. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On August 10 2015 12:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Carano is a big 145-er. She had great difficulty making 145. And Cyborg overpowered her and was much stronger than her. I have no clue how Cyborg makes 135. If the UFC gets suckered into making a deal with Cyborg for a Dallas Stadium show in December it would not surprise me 1 bit for Cyborg to show up and weigh in at 140. Rogan weighs in with this instagram comment https://instagram.com/p/6Id_YypyNh/ Gina is a 135er when it comes to size and strength imo. The extra 10 pounds are her rather curvaceous womanly bits. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
Are you kidding me? He was the bloody champion with 19 fights in the UFC and he's only ever been tested once before fight night. The one time he got tested, he got busted. I don't even know whats real anymore. This is a disgrace. | ||
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