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Champions League & Europa League 2014-15 Thread - Page 164
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
PSG > Barcelona Atletico Madrid > Real Madrid Bayern > Porto Juventus > Monaco EL Predictions: Zenit > Sevilla Dnipro > Brügge Kiew > Fiorentina Wolfsburg > Napoli | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
On March 20 2015 22:38 Ferrose wrote: Now I feel even more depressed. Arsenal could totally beat Juventus... same with bvb vs monaco... afterwards sadly we dont see barca vs chelsea, its much better than psg. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 20 2015 23:02 Dingodile wrote: same with bvb vs monaco... afterwards sadly we dont see barca vs chelsea, its much better than psg. Why would it be much better when they sucked at 11v10 during 90min? And psg last 4 games vs Barca were pretty good. (+ they're actually trying to play football when they play a big club) Or are you only caring about Mourinho-fueled drama and not football? | ||
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
On March 20 2015 22:51 Stratos_speAr wrote: CL Predictions: PSG > Barcelona Atletico Madrid > Real Madrid Bayern > Porto Juventus > Monaco Holy wishful thinking batman  I think Monaco takes Juve actually. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
a little nostalgia never hurt anyone. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
There is a difference between trying to play football vs Barcelona and trying to beat them. You want to go and "play football" vs Barcelona carry on all it does is mean you will lose 4-2 5-3 kind of score. You play counter attack with a sured up defense capitalizing on set pieces and you will have more than a good time vs Barcelona. So maybe he is a Chelsea fan posting that as he knows we would probably beat Barca and maybe he dislikes them, but we will never know so ....not this season anyway.PSG games vs Barca were only good in group stage because didn't mean as much. Proven so when Barca still finished top. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 20 2015 23:27 Pandemona wrote: Chelsea are one of the only teams in Europe who are able to dismantle Barca and their style. Call it ugly or whatever you want, they can still do it and proven so on multiple occasions. There is a difference between trying to play football vs Barcelona and trying to beat them. You want to go and "play football" vs Barcelona carry on all it does is mean you will lose 4-2 5-3 kind of score. You play counter attack with a sured up defense capitalizing on set pieces and you will have more than a good time vs Barcelona. So maybe he is a Chelsea fan posting that as he knows we would probably beat Barca and maybe he dislikes them, but we will never know so ....not this season anyway.PSG games vs Barca were only good in group stage because didn't mean as much. Proven so when Barca still finished top. 1-1 2-2 in quarter in 2013. (they lost on away goals). And it's ridiculous to say that Chlesea are the onle team able to dismantle Barca when the only team who dismantled Barca was a Bayern playing some excellent football overall, including really good possession football in 2013. this is dismantling: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/22254778 http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2013/matches/round=2000350/match=2009610/postmatch/report/ On March 20 2015 23:21 jxx wrote: Holy wishful thinking batman I think Monaco takes Juve actually. AM records over RM is insane since they got this crucial win in the cup. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
We will see what happens, but im going to "assume" PSG go to Nou camp and get dismantled again and if they win at home it wont be without conceding thus making the task even harder. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 20 2015 23:36 Pandemona wrote: That was same year of the PSG game which was playing Barca with 1 hand tied behind its back as they are a team based around 1 player. If that player isn't playing or is injured whilst playing it is not against Barcelona. We will see what happens, but im going to "assume" PSG go to Nou camp and get dismantled again and if they win at home it wont be without conceding thus making the task even harder. I personnaly think PSG is gonna get bullied really hard, especially with Verrati suspended in the home leg, this kid is exactly the kind of player you want versus Barca. But Chelsea wouldn't do a lot better since your counter attack play is just "let's pray hazard pulls off a miracle" in 2015, which is kind of a shame since your first part of the season was exceptionnal both in terms of results and display on the pitch. Bayern is the only side on the level of Barcelona atm, the good thing is that quarters are in 1 month so who knows what can happen. And funnily enough you dodge the Chelsea only team able to dismantle Barca part :D | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 20 2015 23:39 sAsImre wrote: I personnaly think PSG is gonna get bullied really hard, especially with Verrati suspended in the home leg, this kid is exactly the kind of player you want versus Barca. But Chelsea wouldn't do a lot better since your counter attack play is just "let's pray hazard pulls off a miracle" in 2015, which is kind of a shame since your first part of the season was exceptionnal both in terms of results and display on the pitch. Bayern is the only side on the level of Barcelona atm, the good thing is that quarters are in 1 month so who knows what can happen. And funnily enough you dodge the Chelsea only team able to dismantle Barca part :D No because we are, we stop them playing their game vs us and we beat them. Our record vs Barcelona is pretty oustanding in history; 15Games Played 5Wins(Chelsea) 5(Draws) 5Wins(Barca) 20Goals(Chelsea) 25Goals(Barca) That spams all the champions league games including out 2000/2001 series, for a defensive team scoring 20 goals in 15 games vs Barca not bad  | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 21 2015 00:22 Pandemona wrote: No because we are, we stop them playing their game vs us and we beat them. Our record vs Barcelona is pretty oustanding in history; 15Games Played 5Wins(Chelsea) 5(Draws) 5Wins(Barca) 20Goals(Chelsea) 25Goals(Barca) That spams all the champions league games including out 2000/2001 series, for a defensive team scoring 20 goals in 15 games vs Barca not bad 1w 2d 5l for Barca vs Bayern since 1995/6, 9goals for, 15 goals against (only europe games of course, http://www.worldfootball.net/teams/fc-barcelona/bayern-muenchen/11/) But yeah Chelsea only side to dismantle Barca, funny how you're being shortsighted by your fanboyism for the blues. I wonder which team has the best record against Barcelona tho outside of Madrid in Spain. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18572 Posts
On March 20 2015 23:33 sAsImre wrote: 1-1 2-2 in quarter in 2013. (they lost on away goals). And it's ridiculous to say that Chlesea are the onle team able to dismantle Barca when the only team who dismantled Barca was a Bayern playing some excellent football overall, including really good possession football in 2013. this is dismantling: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/22254778 http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2013/matches/round=2000350/match=2009610/postmatch/report/ AM records over RM is insane since they got this crucial win in the cup. Bayern beat Barca by letting them having possession. If you want to beat Barca, never try to beat them in their own game - won't work. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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graan
Germany589 Posts
On March 21 2015 01:24 Skynx wrote: Bayern are out, I got a feeling. You should place a decent bet, odds are on your side. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On March 21 2015 01:21 sharkie wrote: Bayern beat Barca by letting them having possession. If you want to beat Barca, never try to beat them in their own game - won't work. I disagree. Bayern is playing their strongest possession game ever, even stronger than last season or the treble season. (even though their play in 2013 was slightly stronger overall since they were stronger defensively.) meanwhile, barcelona's style has slightly shifted away from the extremely possession-based guardiola style. At the moment, I couldn't really predict what would happen in a barca vs bayern matchup. But keep in mind that there is nonetheless a lot of guardiola spirit in barca. If there is one coach on the planet who should know the weaknesses of this system in and out, its Pep. Yes, not the same barca as in 2011 anymore, but I still think this would mean a huge tactical advantage for bayern if they should face barca this season. Btw that semfinal series in 2013 shouldnt be emphasized too heavily. The strongest bayern team in history was facing barca at their weakest moment in half a decade. Oh, and messi was eating too much pizza back then XD" | ||
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sharkie
Austria18572 Posts
On March 21 2015 02:33 Black Gun wrote: I disagree. Bayern is playing their strongest possession game ever, even stronger than last season or the treble season. (even though their play in 2013 was slightly stronger overall since they were stronger defensively.) meanwhile, barcelona's style has slightly shifted away from the extremely possession-based guardiola style. At the moment, I couldn't really predict what would happen in a barca vs bayern matchup. But keep in mind that there is nonetheless a lot of guardiola spirit in barca. If there is one coach on the planet who should know the weaknesses of this system in and out, its Pep. Yes, not the same barca as in 2011 anymore, but I still think this would mean a huge tactical advantage for bayern if they should face barca this season. Btw that semfinal series in 2013 shouldnt be emphasized too heavily. The strongest bayern team in history was facing barca at their weakest moment in half a decade. Oh, and messi was eating too much pizza back then XD" Funny thing though is that Real beat Bayern the exact same way one year after by employing Bayern's tactics 100%. So I don't think Pep really knows the weaknesses of his system. | ||
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