EPTOn July 23 2015 13:26 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Video of the incident please? Can't seem to find any.
Video of the incident please? Can't seem to find any.
http://streamable.com/dpo4
different angle
http://streamable.com/usqv
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
http://streamable.com/dpo4 different angle http://streamable.com/usqv | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On July 23 2015 13:26 Stratos_speAr wrote: Video of the incident please? Can't seem to find any. 1st penalty call 2nd penalty call | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
Do you have a gif of the, in my opinion, wrongful red? | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On July 23 2015 13:38 TheNewEra wrote: Do you have a gif of the, in my opinion, wrongful red? Nope, I cannot find any. After game Guardado said that he considered missing the penalty. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On July 23 2015 13:38 TheNewEra wrote: Do you have a gif of the, in my opinion, wrongful red? http://streamable.com/1g5d | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Nice work out though thats the only positive to draw from that :') | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4025 Posts
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
The two worst teams of Copa America (11 and 12) are finalists of the Golden Cup. And Mexico can only reach the final after two matches in a row with obvious referee help. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On July 23 2015 18:16 aseq wrote: First penalty was a clear hand ball in the box, second was a foul when the player was about to shoot, and the red is a punching motion when the player wasn't going to make the ball. Great ref. All three decisions have more or less merit, just the coincidence that they all went in Mexico's favor and with such awesome timing, after that quarter-final call, make it interesting. Panama team seems to have reached a conclusion though: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKkzwV7VEAIM4LB.jpg) On July 23 2015 16:41 Pandemona wrote: Well, Red Bulls sure put Chelsea to the roasting beat us 4-2 thanks to some woeful defending and finishing from Chelsea hahaha. Nice work out though thats the only positive to draw from that :') A true gift, I might have to re-edit some stuff :D + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6mlGmnN.png) | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On July 23 2015 18:42 haitike wrote: Golden Cup is a joke. The two worst teams of Copa America (11 and 12) are finalists of the Golden Cup. And Mexico can only reach the final after two matches in a row with obvious referee help. why is it a joke ? its like a starcraft tourney just for foreigners :p | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On July 23 2015 18:16 aseq wrote: First penalty was a clear hand ball in the box, second was a foul when the player was about to shoot, and the red is a punching motion when the player wasn't going to make the ball. Great ref. Yeah, I agree with you and the ref on all calls | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On July 23 2015 18:16 aseq wrote: First penalty was a clear hand ball in the box, second was a foul when the player was about to shoot, and the red is a punching motion when the player wasn't going to make the ball. Great ref. Obviously you CAN justify the red card. Though usually a hand to the face in the battle for the ball will get you a yellow (if the ref doesn't call it violent conduct). Personally in 20 years of watching football I can't remember one time when such a situation was awarded a red even though this exact situation happens nearly every game. The first penalty is only justified if it was an intentional handball. In my opinion stumbling onto the ball because you get shoved is not intentional. The referee should have called a foul there in favour of Panama. The second penalty was the correct decision, though it happened of an offside play. Won't give the ref shit for this though. That was only easy to see if you had a replay :D As someone who was cheering for Mexico (some of my relatives are mexican) this was just sad to see. You know the ref fucked up when even Mexican TV called it Panama 1 - Referee 1 after the first penalty. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AXr5dw9.jpg) Record Mexico: "Sorry, Panamá" | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4025 Posts
On July 23 2015 21:38 TheNewEra wrote: Obviously you CAN justify the red card. Though usually a hand to the face in the battle for the ball will get you a yellow (if the ref doesn't call it violent conduct). Personally in 20 years of watching football I can't remember one time when such a situation was awarded a red even though this exact situation happens nearly every game. The first penalty is only justified if it was an intentional handball. In my opinion stumbling onto the ball because you get shoved is not intentional. The referee should have called a foul there in favour of Panama. The second penalty was the correct decision, though it happened of an offside play. Won't give the ref shit for this though. That was only easy to see if you had a replay :D As someone who was cheering for Mexico (some of my relatives are mexican) this was just sad to see. You know the ref fucked up when even Mexican TV called it Panama 1 - Referee 1 after the first penalty. Haha, of course those punishes, especially added together, are way too strong. I'd be in favour of 1 yellow and 1 penalty. But I think making a case for corruption is a tad premature, none of the calls individually was outrageous. Those kind of decisions happen every week. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On July 23 2015 22:16 aseq wrote: Haha, of course those punishes, especially added together, are way too strong. I'd be in favour of 1 yellow and 1 penalty. But I think making a case for corruption is a tad premature, none of the calls individually was outrageous. Those kind of decisions happen every week. That appears to be the tenor of a few articles I've read about it. Panama being very unlucky here but just inconsistent refereeing in general for this tournament. Maybe someone who has been watching a lot can weigh in on that. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 23 2015 21:38 TheNewEra wrote: Obviously you CAN justify the red card. Though usually a hand to the face in the battle for the ball will get you a yellow (if the ref doesn't call it violent conduct). Personally in 20 years of watching football I can't remember one time when such a situation was awarded a red even though this exact situation happens nearly every game. The first penalty is only justified if it was an intentional handball. In my opinion stumbling onto the ball because you get shoved is not intentional. The referee should have called a foul there in favour of Panama. The second penalty was the correct decision, though it happened of an offside play. Won't give the ref shit for this though. That was only easy to see if you had a replay :D As someone who was cheering for Mexico (some of my relatives are mexican) this was just sad to see. You know the ref fucked up when even Mexican TV called it Panama 1 - Referee 1 after the first penalty. he never had balance after trying to clear the ball and tried to go back to the ball, he never got pushed cause he was going to fall regardless. pretty sure the goalie had the mexican player beat on the ball if the defender had not fallen on it. red was a bit much looking at that ONE play. i didnt see the game so unless the player had been warned before or something, it might have made sense. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
On July 23 2015 22:16 aseq wrote: Haha, of course those punishes, especially added together, are way too strong. I'd be in favour of 1 yellow and 1 penalty. But I think making a case for corruption is a tad premature, none of the calls individually was outrageous. Those kind of decisions happen every week. Bear in mind that Mexico got an incredibly controversial penalty in the quarter final as well in like the last minute of extra time. The decisions are adding up, and their timings are curious. Not saying there is match-fixing, but it is mighty suspicious. (With the personal disclaimer that I haven't watched the tournament) | ||
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On July 23 2015 20:07 Boucot wrote: So last year we beat Jamaica 8-0 and now they're in the final of the Gold Cup ? Seems like the level is pretty high. France 8-0 Jamaica Jamaica 2-1 USA USA 2-1 Germany France would beat Germany by 10 goals if they played now imo. the facts are there | ||
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