EPTIf Lebron opts out, it seems more likely that he looks at another team than stay though. Before the finals I would have considered the chances of him leaving almost zero, but now the chances might be slim, but it isn't exactly crazy to think he would jump teams to a stronger contender. The Rockets and Bulls are both looking to make moves to add a max player this summer, and either one would give Lebron a better supporting cast than the current Heat roster. Harden, Howard and Lebron, or Rose, Lebron, and Noah with a younger supporting cast in either case might start to look a lot more promising than trying to carry the load by himself, and there are already articles in Chicago and Houston discussing the possibilities when a few weeks ago they seemed like impossibilities. Lebron left his home town Cavs, so what kind of loyalty does he have to the Heat when some fans are comparing them to the Cavs 2.0?
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
If Lebron opts out, it seems more likely that he looks at another team than stay though. Before the finals I would have considered the chances of him leaving almost zero, but now the chances might be slim, but it isn't exactly crazy to think he would jump teams to a stronger contender. The Rockets and Bulls are both looking to make moves to add a max player this summer, and either one would give Lebron a better supporting cast than the current Heat roster. Harden, Howard and Lebron, or Rose, Lebron, and Noah with a younger supporting cast in either case might start to look a lot more promising than trying to carry the load by himself, and there are already articles in Chicago and Houston discussing the possibilities when a few weeks ago they seemed like impossibilities. Lebron left his home town Cavs, so what kind of loyalty does he have to the Heat when some fans are comparing them to the Cavs 2.0? | ||
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zulu_nation8
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Jerubaal
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
You share the ball so the team benefits and wins more instead of padding your stats Would putting a penalty on a team if they cut a player's salary or get him at a salary much lower than another team work though? | ||
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Jerubaal
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
if pat riley can convince wade that playing a ginobili role for the heat makes sense, then the pay cut is going to scale with that. it's not like wade is still playing 40 minutes a game and also getting a pay cut. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 18 2014 11:03 Vindicare605 wrote: My problem is more with the attitude from fans. "If he really wants to win he'd take less money." It just perpetuates a problem. That attitude doesn't solve the parity problem that supposedly was the one of the basis for the lockout in the first place, yet it means the athletes are now making less money than they are worth. In other words, nothing changes except that the owners are allowed to spend less. As you said. It's not the only way for a team to win a championship, the Spurs just proved that. I just wish more fans would stop repeating the idea. I'd argue that dwayne is overpaid for what he's worth right now and kawhi is underpaid. Swap kawhi and dwayne wade and the series would be a lot closer, that's for sure. | ||
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seiferoth10
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Itsmedudeman
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
The Heat were mostly underpaid until this Finals. Battier and Allen could certainly have gotten several million more per year somewhere else. Just like Ginobili, though, the numbers made sense for Bosh and Wade until this Finals. Ironically, Allen and Battier started playing more like their salary. One great lesson from this is, though, that you need to be very smart about your whole roster. SA is cutting corners on their whole roster. Apart from the big 3, Splitter and Belinelli, almost everyone else is a castoff from another team or a rookie. On the Heat side, you have the big 3 again, Haslem, Chalmers and Jones and everyone else is on some sort of exception or minimum salary. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On June 18 2014 15:19 Jerubaal wrote: Ginobili really only deserved more than what he got this year. No way, end of last year he would've been lucky to get any team paying him what the Spurs did. They could've got away with a lot less in that market but decided to look after him instead. Of course it paid massive dividends but after the 2013 finals he was looking terribly washed up. On June 18 2014 14:45 Itsmedudeman wrote: Well, still, it's not fair to say the spurs proved anything when they're underpaying some of their players and the heat are overpaying. You can't be serious... The Spurs supporting cast is full of low draft picks and rejects who are paid roughly what the market was for them. The bobcats didn't even want Diaw... Spurs backups just tend to look underpaid because of the system, the minutes and the quality shots they get. The Heat took way more paycuts than the Spurs anyway. Lebron (insane value), Allen, Birdman etc. | ||
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oneofthem
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On June 19 2014 04:42 XaI)CyRiC wrote: FYI, I'm going to let someone else put together the offseason thread, at which point I'll lock this one. I'm thinking that something that lays out important dates like this post on the NBA reddit might be nice. http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/28e1w7/nba_offseason_reference_guide/ The what if website sunk like a hour of my day and was only interrupted by an important email. I am like about to go back into it. This years Lakers were barely beating the 1973 Capitol Bullets... | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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SwARmZzz
Canada193 Posts
So he got a stress fracture on a foot bone from playing/practicing/working out at the NCAA level...? What would happen to this guy at the NBA level...? I'm OUT!! And I hope for Cleveland's sake, they are too... Take Parker or Wiggins, or trade down... | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 18 2014 17:47 Ace wrote: You have to also take into account minutes played leading up the Finals. Miami's Big 3 is +10,000 minutes vs SA Big 3 since 2010 iirc. While Wade was garbage this Finals the real kicker is the supporting cast just dropping a deuce. Chalmers was fucking horrible. James Jones can't play D and isn't worth "court spacing". Ray Allen and Battier finally fell off too. Realize it took SEVEN years and a lot of terrible defeats for SA to make it back to the mountain top. Lebron is only 29 and at the end of next season will surpass Jordan's Bulls career in total minutes played. There is a lot of rebuilding that needs to go on for this team but it isn't just "Wade/Bosh aren't worth it". Just like the 2011 playoffs the role players are a pretty big deal when teams this good get destroyed. That's a crazy stat. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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