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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13029 Posts
May 14 2014 13:34 GMT
#2221
And he's still not getting off that shot
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2014 14:26 GMT
#2222
On May 14 2014 22:17 Ace wrote:
ok you're being silly now. Chris Paul couldn't pass it to Blake - guess why? Blake was setting an illegal screen. He moved his man about 10 feet before Paul even got to the paint and held him. You should really, really watch that last play in it's entirety.

This. A foul on Blake was the only appropriate call. That might have been a penalty if he was a left tackle.
Freeeeeeedom
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 14 2014 14:45 GMT
#2223
And if Paul made the game winning shot OKC should have raised hell about it. That was such a blatant screen the whistle should have blown and ended the game. Those refs are absolutely the worst.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#2224
Ha.



Even the NFL calls that.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 15:44:25
May 14 2014 15:40 GMT
#2225
Why go on about the refs so much? CP3 didn't even want to talk about it in the interview and said, rightly, it was all on him. Even not getting that last shot off.

He should've easily won that game without the refs being able to do a thing. Besides, there are a ton of uncalled touches where a screenshot will show a foul. In real time it looked less obvious than a lot of other no-calls. Lowry and Curry (Ginobili last year) all probably deserved foul calls just as much Paul did. If you put yourself in a position where you need that call to go your way, then it's already on you, can't expect the refs to get it right even close to 100% of the time.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#2226
Because they sucked all game, derp? The refs were screwing both teams all night with bs calls. DJ and Ibaka both got in foul trouble on non-existent fouls.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
May 14 2014 16:36 GMT
#2227
All this controversy is the reason that refs usually swallow the whistle in the last 10 seconds.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
May 14 2014 18:44 GMT
#2228
On May 15 2014 01:36 Zorkmid wrote:
All this controversy is the reason that refs usually swallow the whistle in the last 10 seconds.

Erm, the refs have a very difficult job and generally do pretty decently at it. But the end of the game was just abysmal even without slow motion aides (Barnes on Jackson, Blake's fullback screen, Jackson on Paul), but the out of bounds call in particular is just indefensible because they looked at it in slow motion and somehow got it wrong. Not calling rule violations doesn't provide cover for poor officiating.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 14 2014 19:48 GMT
#2229
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy/
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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
May 14 2014 20:09 GMT
#2230
Cautiously optimistic Mr. Pistionsfan? Joe D to SVG feels like a nice improvement.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 14 2014 20:44 GMT
#2231


in related news... Heard Dumars wanted to re-sign him actually. I like this move, the 3 big men thing didn't work out, Drummond is a better prospect, and you're not going to get shit for J-Smoove right now.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 14 2014 21:01 GMT
#2232
On May 15 2014 00:40 Scarecrow wrote:
Why go on about the refs so much? CP3 didn't even want to talk about it in the interview and said, rightly, it was all on him. Even not getting that last shot off.

He should've easily won that game without the refs being able to do a thing. Besides, there are a ton of uncalled touches where a screenshot will show a foul. In real time it looked less obvious than a lot of other no-calls. Lowry and Curry (Ginobili last year) all probably deserved foul calls just as much Paul did. If you put yourself in a position where you need that call to go your way, then it's already on you, can't expect the refs to get it right even close to 100% of the time.


I feel that the bolded part is a really dumb way of thinking about these things. Teams just don't put themselves in these positions. There's another talented team opposing them that is trying to put them in that position as well. Saying that one team should be able to avoid that position does a complete disservice to their opponent.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 21:51:11
May 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#2233
It's somewhat useless to argue about individual calls. I do hate the idea, though, that officials swallow the whistle in the last play. The Ray Allen no-call on Ginobili is apropos in both cases and we spent almost no time here dwelling on it. No point, really. The Clippers played awfully in the last 4 minutes, but the refs were awful the whole game through.

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I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 22:49:57
May 14 2014 22:38 GMT
#2234
On May 14 2014 07:56 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 05:19 Cloud9157 wrote:
LeBron is definitely a top 5 player ever to me, but Jordan will more than likely be the best ever for a while. LeBron is far more powerful and just plain bigger than Jordan was, but Jordan always found ways to make something out of nothing, and was probably at least a little bit more finesse than LeBron is. LeBron just says, "gtfo of my way or risk me running into you and probably knocking you over/to the side".

The two aren't far off though.

It's not a case for basketball skill but the culture and hype around Jordan was different, like he was such a huge thing in pop culture and (although I was really young then) seemed to be unbeatable or whatever, like there was just something different about Jordan and his legacy that I think is untouchable. Like there might be players who come along who will be better than him on the court, but no one will touch the legacy of Michael Jordan.

The social significance of Jordan is nearly untouchable I agree. Even taking this out completely and just comparing all-time-greats' seasons by numbers and results, Jordan still has a case for greatest-ever though.

Add to this how athletic he was (still holds highest vertical jump record for rookie), along with his mindset, skill, and determination.. and he also has an argument to be able to be great/dominate in today's game.

In an off-court sense, the best thing I've heard about LBJ is his desire to attach himself to bigger causes . Like the Travyn Martin case, and now with this Sterling thing. He seems to understand and act in a way that he gets that the platform he is in is to be used for something bigger (unlike a Tiger Woods, for example). This could come to serve him well down the line in his career/legacy dependent on situation (like a Muhammad Ali).
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
May 14 2014 22:46 GMT
#2235
On May 15 2014 05:44 DystopiaX wrote:
https://twitter.com/MySportsLegion/status/466609087979859968

in related news... Heard Dumars wanted to re-sign him actually. I like this move, the 3 big men thing didn't work out, Drummond is a better prospect, and you're not going to get shit for J-Smoove right now.

That seems a bit extreme. Monroe is offensively good and defensively bad, and has room to improve. I think ti's reasonable to not give him a max deal, but restricted free agency is totally stacked in the Piston's favor and it would be silly for them not to leverage that.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13029 Posts
May 14 2014 22:58 GMT
#2236
Monroe is David Lee. Some dumb team will overpay him, he'll put up like 18/10 and his team will go nowhere. He's dead weight.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 23:09:24
May 14 2014 23:09 GMT
#2237
Why does this Miami - Nets game have some many empty seats in the middle of the playoffs?...
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2014 23:11 GMT
#2238
Would you go?
Freeeeeeedom
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 14 2014 23:26 GMT
#2239
On May 15 2014 08:09 Roggay wrote:
Why does this Miami - Nets game have some many empty seats in the middle of the playoffs?...


Miami fans are awful and show up mid 2nd quarter.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 14 2014 23:36 GMT
#2240
On May 15 2014 07:46 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2014 05:44 DystopiaX wrote:
https://twitter.com/MySportsLegion/status/466609087979859968

in related news... Heard Dumars wanted to re-sign him actually. I like this move, the 3 big men thing didn't work out, Drummond is a better prospect, and you're not going to get shit for J-Smoove right now.

That seems a bit extreme. Monroe is offensively good and defensively bad, and has room to improve. I think ti's reasonable to not give him a max deal, but restricted free agency is totally stacked in the Piston's favor and it would be silly for them not to leverage that.

Yeah I don't think Monroe is a bad player but rumor is that he's asking for close to the max and if not 10+ million per year and there's just no reason for the Pistons to match that with the roster that they have.
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