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On November 21 2013 00:15 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 00:07 -Archangel- wrote:On November 20 2013 23:32 Acrofales wrote:On November 20 2013 22:33 -Archangel- wrote:Croatia, king of playoffs (4/4), has done it again  And we showed best football since last EURO. If we keep this up, anyone in our group will need to be scared. I understand some national pride, but come on. You beat Iceland. Big whoop. Also, last Euro you got knocked out in the group stage... not sure why anybody should be particularly afraid  The numbers do say we got knocked out, but we had in our group Italy and Spain which were two finalists. With Italy we played 1:1 and each team totally dominated for 1 half. With Spain we dominated second half and were soo close to scoring. Spain won 1:0 in the end. If we did score Italy would have not left the group. Also both Spain and Italy destroyed all other opponents after group play. Only team they did not destroy is Croatia. I am a big fan of Croatian national team and I agree with your view of EURO But that was two years ago, you suck since then
And we did for a long while. But last two games we have a new coach and players started playing up to their potential.
Against Island the team looked like it did 2 years ago. Although the score was only 2:0 the gameplay was 5:0 and only their crazy goalkeeper kept it at 2:0 (someone needs to hire this goalkeeper). We had 10 players for almost 2/3 of the game, but totally dominated it.
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On November 21 2013 00:21 Ferrose wrote:
+Croatia will be without Mandzukic for the first game of the group stage after his sending off yesterday.
We have yet to see how many games he will not be allowed to play, it might be more than one.
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On November 21 2013 01:01 shell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 00:07 -Archangel- wrote:On November 20 2013 23:32 Acrofales wrote:On November 20 2013 22:33 -Archangel- wrote:Croatia, king of playoffs (4/4), has done it again And we showed best football since last EURO. If we keep this up, anyone in our group will need to be scared. I understand some national pride, but come on. You beat Iceland. Big whoop. Also, last Euro you got knocked out in the group stage... not sure why anybody should be particularly afraid The numbers do say we got knocked out, but we had in our group Italy and Spain which were two finalists. With Italy we played 1:1 and each team totally dominated for 1 half. With Spain we dominated second half and were soo close to scoring. Spain won 1:0 in the end. If we did score Italy would have not left the group. Also both Spain and Italy destroyed all other opponents after group play. Only team they did not destroy is Croatia. Actually no.. Spain only went to the final after a very tought game against Portugal where they won in the penalties shoot out! but Croatia is indeed strong.
Ok, then Croatia and Portugal are only teams Italy and Spain did not run over.
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Actually paraguay coached by tata martinez almost knocked spain out, they missed so many clear chances.
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Dumbest thing about soccer is how they use number of goals to decide who goes through. But I'm just being bitter because + Show Spoiler +Ukraine didn't make it through cause France scored one more goal than them.
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On November 21 2013 03:16 Just_a_Moth wrote:Dumbest thing about soccer is how they use number of goals to decide who goes through. But I'm just being bitter because + Show Spoiler +Ukraine didn't make it through cause France scored one more goal than them.
I don't mind the two-legged playoff system.
I do hate the away goals rule, though. IMO the tie should always go to extra time+pens if level on aggregate.
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This would bring too much of an advantage for the team playing at home on second game.
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Goal aggregate is fine. The only problem with goal aggregate is how away goals count more than home goals, but even that is justifiable: playing away really is harder, and scoring there is thus also tougher. Justified that that counts as a second tiebreaker if goal aggregate is also the same.
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I think this system rewards better play and overall more atacking play.
Actually i think it's one of the best football rules.
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On November 20 2013 23:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 21:53 DaCruise wrote:
Title contenders in order as I see it:
-Brazil
-Spain
-Italy
-Germany
-Argentina
-The Netherlands
Outsiders:
-Uruguay
-England
-Portugal
-Chile
-Columbia
-Russia
-France
The rest of the teams will need luck of the draw and some really good days to make a deep run. Generally agree with you on contenders, although I'd put Spain lower on that list, given their latest few friendlies. Not so much with the outsiders. I think Belgium and Japan are more likely to make a deep run than Chile or France. I guess if France plays like they did in the second match against Ukraine, then maybe, but other than that match, they look quite out of shape. EDIT: oh, and betting on England to do much is always a losing proposition 
Eehh Japan won't go far. We lack the killer instinct to score goals.
We'd only go far if football was about playing beautifully.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 21 2013 03:52 shell wrote:
I think this system rewards better play and overall more atacking play.
Actually i think it's one of the best football rules.
Exactly, reason Sweden fucked up last night? Because they want to Portugal to get a 0-0 and failed miserably. Was like awful to watch and they proved when they attacked last night they could give Portugal problems. Sweden looked much more attractive at home attacking than they did playing hoof ball to Ibra and trying to defend for their lives.
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On November 21 2013 04:04 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 03:52 shell wrote:
I think this system rewards better play and overall more atacking play.
Actually i think it's one of the best football rules. Exactly, reason Sweden fucked up last night? Because they want to Portugal to get a 0-0 and failed miserably. Was like awful to watch and they proved when they attacked last night they could give Portugal problems. Sweden looked much more attractive at home attacking than they did playing hoof ball to Ibra and trying to defend for their lives.
They clearly didn't go to Portugal to get a 0-0. They NEEDED to score, seeing as how they lost 0-1 in Sweden. Sweden lost because Portugal is simply better. I agree that Sweden didn't play particularly attractive football, but their homegame wasn't all that interesting either.
I fail.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Did you watch the first leg? They didn't even attack after like the first 20minutes they just stopped. Whole second half i think Ibra touched the ball like twice.
No way they didn't go to Portugal to do anything but keep a clean sheet.
At home they clearly started the second half on the front foot and caused problems and made the game great football experience. They played much better football and passed it more than fine, maybe it wasn't Brazil esq football but this is Sweden they played some nice football.
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On November 21 2013 04:31 Pandemona wrote:
Did you watch the first leg? They didn't even attack after like the first 20minutes they just stopped. Whole second half i think Ibra touched the ball like twice.
No way they didn't go to Portugal to do anything but keep a clean sheet.
At home they clearly started the second half on the front foot and caused problems and made the game great football experience. They played much better football and passed it more than fine, maybe it wasn't Brazil esq football but this is Sweden they played some nice football.
If Ibra touched the ball twice, he has a marvellous touch, seeing as he scored two goals. I'm not sure we watched the same match. I didn't see a Sweden that wasn't trying, I saw a Sweden that was incompetent in the face of a rather strong-looking Portugal. Their passes were inaccurate and their midfield was outclassed. Even if they managed to get the ball to Ibra, the Portuguese defense was on it like a hawk, and the other Swedish attackers seemed rather hopeless (Larssen?).
I didn't watch the second half, because I switched to France-Ukraine (fucking frogs, I was cheering for Ukraine!). I did watch Sweden-Portugal when they played in Sweden, but it was a rather boring match.
EDIT: errr... never mind! I mixed up the home and away games. So the game i was calling boring, was the game in Portugal Seems we are in full agreement!
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The second leg (the game yesterday) was in Sweden, yo.
On November 21 2013 04:41 Steveling wrote:
The problem for sweden was lack of experience.
Ibra got two wonderful goals and put them right back into the game and they still had half an hour left but suddenly for some reason, they went berserk.
You just can't go full attack mode against the best counter attacking player on the planet, especially when you only need 1 more goal in 30minutes.
If they slowed down I'm sure they would have done much better.
Yeah, look at the goals again. Sweden's defenders were standing at the halfway line. When Portugal had the ball.
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The problem for sweden was lack of experience.
Ibra got two wonderful goals and put them right back into the game and they still had half an hour left but suddenly for some reason, they went berserk.
You just can't go full attack mode against the best counter attacking player on the planet, especially when you only need 1 more goal in 30minutes.
If they slowed down I'm sure they would have done much better.
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Netherlands13554 Posts
lol no Alaba
you got trash like Agger and Skrtel and no Alaba? That's some funny shit.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 21 2013 04:47 Twisted wrote:lol no Alaba you got trash like Agger and Skrtel and no Alaba? That's some funny shit.
Daily fail brah, daily fail for you >.<
I mean Cisse is like the worst inform striker on the planet, i would honestly play Torres instead of Cisse as well =P
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On November 21 2013 04:42 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 04:38 Ferrose wrote:It's all a ploy to give it to these guys: ![[image loading]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BHGTxjkATTY/UovPCmhjc_I/AAAAAAAAClo/Kfts5VVoJ8k/w506-h283/rom11secondangle.gif) Wait wtf, explain steveling? 0.O How on earth was that even possible :S
Famous greek defense huh? lol
The vertical camera explains it all, the first dude tried to clear it, torosidis was a bit hesitant, then at the last moment decided to jump over the ball only to hit the best ricochet ever.
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