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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
Likely pots 1 Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, Switzerland, Uruguay*. 2 Holland, Italy, England, Portugal, Greece, Bosnia, Croatia, Russia. 3 France, Chile, Ecuador, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Ghana. 4 Japan, Australia, Iran, S Korea, Costa Rica, United States, Mexico, Honduras. Hoping for a: Spain - Italy - France - Japan And a: Switzerland - Portugal - Algeria - Costa Rica  | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On November 20 2013 19:44 Steveling wrote: Lmao, ibra said that now that he's out it's not worth watching the world cup, xD. he sure loves to watch himself | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
btw: I thought the Messi chants by the Swedish crowd were very out of place with someone like Zlatan on the pitch. Feels like an insult to Zlatan lol. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
On November 20 2013 19:58 warding wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10461145/World-Cup-2014-Group-of-Death-scenario-faces-England-in-draw-after-finalists-are-decided.html Likely pots 1 Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, Switzerland, Uruguay*. 2 Holland, Italy, England, Portugal, Greece, Bosnia, Croatia, Russia. 3 France, Chile, Ecuador, Nigeria, Cameroon, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Ghana. 4 Japan, Australia, Iran, S Korea, Costa Rica, United States, Mexico, Honduras. Hoping for a: Spain - Italy - France - Japan And a: Switzerland - Portugal - Algeria - Costa Rica There is a procedure to make sure there isn't 3 european teams in one group. Meanwhile, so many reunion from 2010 possible this WC. Uruguay-Mexico-France Argentina-Nigeria-SK-Greece England-USA-Algeria Germany-Ghana-Australia Netherland-Japan-Cameroon Brazil-Ivory Coast- Portugal Spain-Honduras-Chile or Switzerland-Honduras-Chile | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
(apologies if the dark humor offends anyone). EDIT: Sorry misread the post. World Cup 2010. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On November 20 2013 18:41 WillyWanker wrote: Good to have this kind of people on TL x) All of these guys are born in France (maybe 1 or 2 exceptions? I'm not even sure)... What about Diego Costa, are you also b$tching about him because he's playing for Spain? Pepe? T. Motta? ... So Argentina is a semi-italian team playing in the South-America's playoffs? To be clear, Diego Costa hasn't played a single game for Spain, he still can play for Brazil and even if he will choose Spain, he'll become a single exception, and by the way, I'm telling about what modern team france looks alike, Lloris and Giroud seems like they're two exceptions in yesterdays roster :D It might sounds racist a bit, but all those words about semi-african team is truth, have fun with it. Yes, I'm frustrated, yes, from euphoria to a total ruins, yes Ukraine played much worse that it was in Friday, yes we lost 5-th playoff deciders in a row and that all sucks as hell. I wish you could make it through the group stage in Brazil (cause seems like last world cup was a horror for france), and face some high-class opponents like Spain, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal, Brazil of Argentina in which players also taking a part in world-top leagues (all the Ukrainian team consists of players who plays in Ukraine). And yes, I'm gonna miss Ukraine and Sweden over there, but i would say France deserved and Cr7 deserved it also, he also deserved golden ball. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18770 Posts
This could be a WC with tons of upsets | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On November 20 2013 19:14 Akka wrote: Picture from yesterday's game at the Stade de France : ![[image loading]](http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8233/xeag.jpg) Overall a good game from France, everyone played well and showed passion. The second yellow was totally right, the Ukrainian player kicked Ribery with his second leg after missing him with the first one. Take a closer look at replay, Khacheridy didn't touched Ribery, Frank just jumped over, that's all, but the referee position wasn't perfect so from behind it looks realy terrible, that even I thought there was yellow card, am no defending our player, he took very stupid first card and tryed to solve a mistake from another defender, btw we lost two key players in first game (potentially we had 10 players to be disqualifired before game in Paris). Pic looks great, well done for belieaving in a positive result. But as for me, the upcoming WC looks much less interesting  | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:26 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: I'm telling about what modern team france looks alike, Lloris and Giroud seems like they're two exceptions in yesterdays roster :D It might sounds racist a bit, but all those words about semi-african team is truth, have fun with it. Doesn't just sound racist, it is. France is a multicultural country with a large population of people of African descent. Doesn't mean they're not French. So the Brazil team is Semi-African as well? | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:37 AxionSteel wrote: Doesn't just sound racist, it is. France is a multicultural country with a large population of people of African descent. So the Brazil team is Semi-African as well? I'm fine with it, and thanks for geography lessons, but there is no point in ur question, in fact Brazilian population cames from mixing of Portugal population with ethnic aborigens, generaly even Dani Alvesh with Marcelo looks more "europish" than Mamadu Sakho for example, isn't that obvious? | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:44 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: I'm fine with it, and thanks for geography lessons, but there is no point in ur question, in fact Brazilian population cames from mixing of Portugal population with ethnic aborigens, generaly even Dani Alvesh with Marcelo looks more "europish" than Mamadu Sakho for example, isn't that obvious? Not even going to bother responding to that  FYI, A significant population of Brazillians are of African Descent. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:32 sharkie wrote: Is it just me or is every pot actually stacked? This could be a WC with tons of upsets Definitely stacked. I think 4 teams in pot1 have a legitimate chance of falling in the group stages if they are matched up against some of the stronger teams in pot 2, 3 and 4. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:48 AxionSteel wrote: Not even going to bother responding to that FYI, A significant population of Brazillians are of African Descent. Indeed, that's why portuguese is a national language there? | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On November 20 2013 17:35 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Too bad Sweden didn't made it, but Cr7 is more that a half of Purtugal team, he deserves Golden Ball at least That's not really fair to say, IMO. http://imgur.com/a/Dtgyn Each one of those assists is world class. Ronaldo's superior supporting class is what won the game for Portugal. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Do they feel that france/england/germany/usa is the big bad overlord of their african countries and they are only representing les bleus for money or do they feel french and they would die for the french flag in let's say a war? You gotta remember that no one is forcing anyone to play for the national team, it's their choice. | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Indeed, that's why portuguese is a national language there? Just drop it dude. They're called National teams, not Ethnical teams. Modern nations are not defined based on ethnicity. Countries like Portugal or France are simply more multi-ethnic than northern or eastern European countries. Does it confuse you that the US has black players in their roster too? | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:52 Ferrose wrote: That's not really fair to say, IMO. http://imgur.com/a/Dtgyn Each one of those assists is world class. Ronaldo's superior supporting class is what won the game for Portugal. Yeah, if Sweden had Moutinho things could have looked differently. Still Ronaldo's first touch on the second goal and third goal is brilliant. Just gives himself so much more time. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:54 Steveling wrote: This is a delicate subject that each player can answer for himself. Do they feel that france/england/germany/usa is the big bad overlord of their african countries and they are only representing les bleus for money or do they feel french and they would die for the french flag in let's say a war? You gotta remember that no one is forcing anyone to play for the national team, it's their choice. Would be a fine thing to say if they were all from African countries and moved over to France later in their life to join a football club then eventually played for France or something. I thought I read earlier that all of these players were born in France and have lived there their whole life, gone to school there, grown up there, played through the junior systems etc. I do not see how they are not French just because they have black skin, but I guess I dunno what i'm talking about. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On November 20 2013 20:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Indeed, that's why portuguese is a national language there? You can't be that silly, surely..... --- oops, double post. Meant to edit my post and instead quoted it. I guess I'm silly as well  | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On November 20 2013 21:00 warding wrote: Just drop it dude. They're called National teams, not Ethnical teams. Modern nations are not defined based on ethnicity. Countries like Portugal or France are simply more multi-ethnic than northern or eastern European countries. Does it confuse you that the US has black players in their roster too? Okay okay, I stopped, but now I'm wondering how ppl rly cares about this question, istead of ignoring it, started to "dialogue". | ||
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