On September 19 2013 05:46 smr wrote:
Happy we atleast tried until the end.

That Napoli team is amazing to watch. Didn't give us any room (should have started Auba maybe), everybody seems to have an amazing eye for throughs and crosses, that left side with zuniga and insigne played world class.
And I liked that they rarely tried standard corners, ours have been shit for years and these seemed to work wonders.

Meh, I agree with Klopp. Napoli looked beatable but Dortmund had a bad game.

Klopp wasn't impressed with himself or his team tonight, and rightly so.

wingpawn

Poland1342 Posts

September 18 2013 21:39 GMT

#527

I'm surprised Klopp went ape shit over that first goal. Seemed like generally chilled out character.

If there was anything to rage about, it was Dortmund's defense. They failed to play traditional pressing game on Napoli's half and lacked agression on the flanks too. But I'm not sure if there's anyone who could stop Callejon and Insigne tonight.

smr

Germany4808 Posts

September 18 2013 21:46 GMT

#528

Klopp is absolutely chilled until the tiniest thing happens he disagrees with ; )
Apart from Reus free-kicks our biggest problem in my opinion was that Mkhitaryan disappeared after 10 minutes.

On September 19 2013 06:29 Maenander wrote:
Meh, I agree with Klopp. Napoli looked beatable but Dortmund had a bad game.

They looked beatable I agree but alot of that came from the last 15 minutes where they stopped pressuring that far into Dortmunds half. Before that we got nothing out of the game apart from 2 or 3 runs by Aubameyang. If they keep that pressure up for a full 90 minutes every team, no matter how much better they are, will have problems playing that team at home.

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

September 18 2013 21:50 GMT

#529

On September 19 2013 06:39 wingpawn wrote:
I'm surprised Klopp went ape shit over that first goal. Seemed like generally chilled out character.

If there was anything to rage about, it was Dortmund's defense. They failed to play traditional pressing game on Napoli's half and lacked agression on the flanks too. But I'm not sure if there's anyone who could stop Callejon and Insigne tonight.

To be honest I would have been upset as well. First the 4th official delays Subotic' return from the side of the field, when Klopp wanted him back as fast as possible, then Napoli plays a fast corner to take advantage of the fact that Subotic is still out of position.

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

September 18 2013 21:52 GMT

#530

On September 19 2013 06:46 smr wrote:
They looked beatable I agree but alot of that came from the last 15 minutes where they stopped pressuring that far into Dortmunds half. Before that we got nothing out of the game apart from 2 or 3 runs by Aubameyang. If they keep that pressure up for a full 90 minutes every team, no matter how much better they are, will have problems playing that team at home.

Dortmund played with 10 men for like 60 minutes (including Subotic's injury time) and Napoli still looked more tired in the end. And Dortmund misplaced a lot of passes even when the pressure wasn't that high.

sharkie

Austria18385 Posts

September 18 2013 21:53 GMT

#531

On September 19 2013 06:46 smr wrote:
Klopp is absolutely chilled until the tiniest thing happens he disagrees with ; )
Apart from Reus free-kicks our biggest problem in my opinion was that Mkhitaryan disappeared after 10 minutes.

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its very easy to pressure a team of only 10 players...

smr

Germany4808 Posts

September 18 2013 21:59 GMT

#532

Yes I know that but even in the first half we couldn't find too much space. I totally agree that 11vs11 the game might have ended ugly for Napoli when they got tired but you can't take everything away from them. Their tactical approach was superior if you ask me. Nothing more nothing less.
The game was decided by emotions, maybe even by that single decision to keep Subotic out longer than necessary (in that split second when the tv showed him I couldn't see blood anymore) with everything on Dortmunds side just going the worst way possible.

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

September 19 2013 19:53 GMT

#533

Valencia - Swansea 0 - 3 Go EPL! XD

Ethi

Germany275 Posts

September 19 2013 20:40 GMT

#534

Slapstick in Freiburg. Unbelieveable.

Dingodile

4133 Posts

September 19 2013 20:59 GMT

#535

I am very sure Klopp didnt make this angry face (to the 4th referee) if subotic came earlier into the field. After treatment Subotic had waited around ~60sec until the referee allowed him to play.

Maenander

Germany4926 Posts

September 20 2013 07:22 GMT

#536

On September 20 2013 04:53 Ysellian wrote:
Valencia - Swansea 0 - 3 Go EPL! XD

Swansea is a prime example of the EPL sucking the talent out of La Liga.

Sometimes I have the horror vision of the EPL turning the other European leagues into Eredivisies, bereft of all top players, thanks to insane advantages in global marketing

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

September 20 2013 08:04 GMT

#537

On September 20 2013 16:22 Maenander wrote:

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Swansea is a prime example of the EPL sucking the talent out of La Liga.

Sometimes I have the horror vision of the EPL turning the other European leagues into Eredivisies, bereft of all top players, thanks to insane advantages in global marketing

Eredivisies, lol

Anyway lets not forget that until recently the sub-top/mid table teams in Spain were outperforming their English counter-parts in Europe. It's only because the top two teams suck all the money out of the league that we can see results like these today. The German league is fine (which is also sucking talent out of the Netherlands btw

) and Italy have that co-ownership stuff which seems to help the smaller teams get good players.

haitike

Spain2711 Posts

September 20 2013 09:32 GMT

#538

Well, you should consider that Valencia is in a hard crisis right now, they are sucking in La liga too with 3 looses of 4 matches, in 16th position. Last year they were starting to go down with Athletico and Real Sociedad surpassing them in La Liga and Malaga in champions.

The position as third strong team of Spain was stolen by Athletico de Madrid, that won this week his first Champion League match without problems. They have won Spanish Cup and SuperCup this year to Real Madrid, and two Europe League recently (and they were 2nd in La liga above Real Madrid last year until the week 27/38). Furthermore, Simeone is awesome xD