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Charlie Sheens House51479 Posts
Yeah Messi and Ronaldo stats are annoying because they are both still making numbers.
Comparing Di Stefano to Maradonna in stats is fair because they are not improving these stats every year etc etc.
When Messi and Ronaldo have retired then you compare the stats of each of them, until then you just go season by season or even game by game and argue who is the best. Like i said right now for me Suarez is the best player in the world (or was idk he is strange) but if Messi continues to carry this star studded Argentina side is much as he is doing now and takes them even just to the final he will go into next seasons domestic European program as the best player in the world.
But by Christmas he could be back to miss firing in La Liga and Ronaldo scoring goals at the highest domestic club level in the champions league for fun again. Then you will struggle to name the Ballon D'or again (Unless Messi wins the world cup that is, then well he wins it xD)
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Charlie Sheens House51479 Posts
How is that post remotely biased ;_;
Compared to your "lets post this pic because it shows Messi has good stats" posts :s
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Because it has stats, lol.
You are saying "let them eat their stats". Pretty sure you are the fanboi here, don't you agree?
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Theofanis Gekas for Ballon d'or plz.
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yea Steve, Pande is biased but you are not.
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Messi has better unassisted shooting % because he attempts to take on defenders more than Ronaldo, so he's more likely to have a clear shot once he takes it. The article says as much:
"Ronaldo takes more mid-range shots but misses a lot of them; Messi tries to beat a lot more defenders, loses sometimes, and then makes up for it (and then some) by having better assisting and shooting opportunities as a result. That’s not to say one approach is better than the other, but note that it means that the observed shooting gap between them is at least somewhat exaggerated. "
The assisted shooting percentages are similar, but what if Ronaldo attempts a lot more headers at goal (lower % assisted shots?) than Messi (because he's 1.69)? Then comparing the two similarly makes little sense.
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On July 02 2014 00:45 Mensol wrote:
yea Steve, Pande is biased but you are not.
I'm not the one saying "eat the stats".
If we look at them objectively we see that messi is the best player in the planet.
And pande is ignoring this.
Sooooo yeah...
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Wouldn't feel like a real summer football talk without this coming up again. xD
Next in line is the liga>bpl topic.
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lallana moved to liverpool
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On July 02 2014 00:17 WillyWanker wrote:
I'm still waiting for the answer to my GOAT argument. Has anyone every heard about CR being discussed as the GOAT? Messi might not be the best of all time for some people (there's gonna be even less people contesting this when he win this WC :D), but no one has ever said CR was. No one. I think it's enough to see the difference in level between these 2...
If Messi is discussed as the GOAT and Ronaldo is compared to Messi, then by the transitive law Ronaldo must also be discussed as GOAT.
If that was not enough proof, and you require someone to discuss CR as the GOAT, then I present you proof number two:
Cristiano Ronaldo may be the Greatest of All Time.
I rest my case.
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He's not even the portuguese GOAT :D
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On July 02 2014 01:21 WillyWanker wrote:
He's not even the portuguese GOAT :D
Huge burn and true as well.
How can you say cristiano is better than eusebio with a straight face.
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The top scorer/player from La Liga winner and CL finalist team, moving to a team that won nothing last year?
Who would have seen it coming months ago? Surely not everyone 
What's better is that the FManager signing style by BPL teams is just blah nowadays. Nobody gives a crap really, me included.
Oh and Barça is most likely gonna sign the rat man and sell Alexis. Now this I'm mad about. This board is so retarded I'm gonna root for the other teams until the nubs resign en masse.
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On July 02 2014 01:50 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 01:21 WillyWanker wrote:
He's not even the portuguese GOAT :D Huge burn and true as well. How can you say cristiano is better than eusebio with a straight face.
If Eusébio had left Portugal and proved himself in bigger championships then he'd be in the conversation with Pelé and Maradona. As he didn't, I think CR's career is more impressive.
EDIT: Plus, Messi isn't the Argentinian GOAT.
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Suarez gonna play for Barca in the next season, he will fit like an arse in a bucket.
Suarez, Neymar and Busquest can go diving altogether, im pretty sure he'll enjoy life in Barca.
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Well pande, that's how it is.
There are no arguments against this.
Henry, Ibra, Maldini, Ferguson, Wenger, Pep, Cruyff, rooney and a shitload of other coaches/players have said that he is the best.
But yeah, nothing stops you from thinking cristiano is better, xD.
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On July 02 2014 03:15 Steveling wrote:
Well pande, that's how it is.
There are no arguments against this.
Henry, Ibra, Maldini, Ferguson, Wenger, Pep, Cruyff, rooney and a shitload of other coaches/players have said that he is the best.
But yeah, nothing stops you from thinking cristiano is better, xD.
steve do you even read his comments? he didn't even mention ronaldo... he's saying suarez was the best player this season/year w/e and pretty sure stats are in his favour...
please there are more than 2 players and 2 teams in this world
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On July 02 2014 03:49 anomalopidae wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 03:15 Steveling wrote:
Well pande, that's how it is.
There are no arguments against this.
Henry, Ibra, Maldini, Ferguson, Wenger, Pep, Cruyff, rooney and a shitload of other coaches/players have said that he is the best.
But yeah, nothing stops you from thinking cristiano is better, xD. steve do you even read his comments? he didn't even mention ronaldo... he's saying suarez was the best player this season/year w/e and pretty sure stats are in his favour... please there are more than 2 players and 2 teams in this world
Suarez being the best is plain funny.
And I'm talking overall so far in their careers, not just last year.
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