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On March 27 2014 01:31 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:13 Malaz wrote:
Although the number of teams differed in the past (there were seasons with 16 and 20 teams), Bundesliga usually had 18 teams. So there's certainly a historical aspect to it.
And don't forget, that there's a winter break in Germany. We usually have more snow in the winter than England or Spain/Italy. Nowadays every stadium in the first and second Bundesliga has undersoil heating, so a winter break wouldn't be a necessity anymore.
Personally I prefer a league with only 18 clubs. Together with the German cup, EL/CL and EC/WC there are already a shitton of games every season. Adding even more games would lessen the qualitiy in my opinion.
Just look at teams like Arsenal that really struggle because they don't have infinite amount of money to spend like Chelsea or City and therefor lack the amount of depth in their squad to deal with the sheer quantity of games.
Or look at Messi. In my opinion part of the reason why he was quite a disappointment at the last WC was that he was totally gased after a long long season and all the games he had to play. Yeah but then you could add into that look at the Atletico Madrids and Evertons of the La Liga / Premiership respectively. Smaller squads yet packing a pretty big punch in their leagues. Also i guess you could add Liverpool to that? I mean without Suarez or Sturridge they pretty average  But i guess if it isn't broke in Germany why would you change it XD Just would be cool to see all the top leagues with the same amount of games to play every year. I know Germany has more snow than Spain and La Liga, but Italy in some areas get a lot too? France in certain areas too i don't know im pretty noob at Geography Winter break still happens in each league just means you have to push games in, like now La Liga is going pretty heavy on games to catch up. Premiership is ahead in games played with 31 games played with others catching up in midweek now. Serie A sat on 29 games with midweek games going on this week i believe and La Liga is playing its 30th games this midweek too. So i guess Germany has a pretty big advantage in freshness in most competitions with playing 27 games after midweek fixtures and only having to play 34 xD Oh well all fun xD
liverpool spent more money than arsenal did, didnt they?
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On March 26 2014 18:39 Twisted wrote:
Problem with Arsenal is just depth in the squad. That's why they struggle in the latter part of the season every time. When you have no money to throw around (or not having one of your strikers suddenly becomes the best premier league player), you'll eventually lose out because of injuries and no capable players to replace them with. And Özil had started out great, but fell off after a few months as well. And in a tactically inept league, eventually the money wins all the time.
Honestly, I think it only comes down to Ramsey's injury. If it was Özil, you would put Rosicky in his place and somehow carry on; if it was Giroud or Cazorla, you play Podolski at either spot and you're reasonably okay too. But a guy who can run 15 kilometers in a match, getting in the middle of pretty much every action is irreplaceable. It's as if Suarez, Yaya or Hazard were out of play for couple of months - shit couldn't possibly get worse than that.
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Arsenal are not poor lol. Arsene had 90 million available to spend this year, they spent 50 on Özil and had seemingly enough for Suarez. Unfortunately Liverpool (fortunately for Liverpool) chose to ignore the bid and Arsenal never exercised the release clause for some reason (not sure of the details here). Arsenal with Özil and Suarez would have laughed themselves to the league title.
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On March 26 2014 18:39 Twisted wrote:
Problem with Arsenal is just depth in the squad. That's why they struggle in the latter part of the season every time. When you have no money to throw around (or not having one of your strikers suddenly becomes the best premier league player), you'll eventually lose out because of injuries and no capable players to replace them with. And Özil had started out great, but fell off after a few months as well. And in a tactically inept league, eventually the money wins all the time.
It's true that Arsenal's squad isn't as deep as some others, but any team would struggle if they lost four of their best players at he same time.
Do you think Chelsea would be okay if they lost Hazard, Terry, Oscar, and Lampard? Or Man City if they lost Aguero, Silva, Yaya Toure, and Kompany?
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Yeah you're right, those players are irreplacable, but those bigger teams do have a tendency to rotate more leading to less injuries. Or at least, they have more capability to rotate.
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Or these clubs have better medical personnel lol
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On March 27 2014 02:20 Ysellian wrote:
Arsenal are not poor lol. Arsene had 90 million available to spend this year, they spent 50 on Özil and had seemingly enough for Suarez. Unfortunately Liverpool (fortunately for Liverpool) chose to ignore the bid and Arsenal never exercised the release clause for some reason (not sure of the details here). Arsenal with Özil and Suarez would have laughed themselves to the league title.
AFAIK what happened was Arsenal activated the release clause with a 40 million +1 pounds bid and Liverpool lied about the content of the contract in the hope that Arsenal wouldn't pursue the matter further. Had Arsenal taken them to court Suarez would be an Arsenal player right now. On the other hand I don't know why they were never punished for blatantly breaking the law...
A front 6 of Suarez, Walcott, Cazorla, Ozil, Ramsey, and Flamini would have been delicious.
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On March 27 2014 02:55 ZeroChrome wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 02:20 Ysellian wrote:
Arsenal are not poor lol. Arsene had 90 million available to spend this year, they spent 50 on Özil and had seemingly enough for Suarez. Unfortunately Liverpool (fortunately for Liverpool) chose to ignore the bid and Arsenal never exercised the release clause for some reason (not sure of the details here). Arsenal with Özil and Suarez would have laughed themselves to the league title. AFAIK what happened was Arsenal activated the release clause with a 40 million +1 pounds bid and Liverpool lied about the content of the contract in the hope that Arsenal wouldn't pursue the matter further. Had Arsenal taken them to court Suarez would be an Arsenal player right now. On the other hand I don't know why they were never punished for blatantly breaking the law... A front 6 of Suarez, Walcott, Cazorla, Ozil, Ramsey, and Flamini would have been delicious.
0_0 wow. I guess this is where Wenger's friendly persona doesn't come in handy, to think Arsenal were so close to getting Suarez.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
LOL
StealthBlue what a link, those two are hilarious haha <3
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On March 27 2014 01:31 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 01:13 Malaz wrote:
Although the number of teams differed in the past (there were seasons with 16 and 20 teams), Bundesliga usually had 18 teams. So there's certainly a historical aspect to it.
And don't forget, that there's a winter break in Germany. We usually have more snow in the winter than England or Spain/Italy. Nowadays every stadium in the first and second Bundesliga has undersoil heating, so a winter break wouldn't be a necessity anymore.
Personally I prefer a league with only 18 clubs. Together with the German cup, EL/CL and EC/WC there are already a shitton of games every season. Adding even more games would lessen the qualitiy in my opinion.
Just look at teams like Arsenal that really struggle because they don't have infinite amount of money to spend like Chelsea or City and therefor lack the amount of depth in their squad to deal with the sheer quantity of games.
Or look at Messi. In my opinion part of the reason why he was quite a disappointment at the last WC was that he was totally gased after a long long season and all the games he had to play. Yeah but then you could add into that look at the Atletico Madrids and Evertons of the La Liga / Premiership respectively. Smaller squads yet packing a pretty big punch in their leagues. Also i guess you could add Liverpool to that? I mean without Suarez or Sturridge they pretty average But i guess if it isn't broke in Germany why would you change it XD Just would be cool to see all the top leagues with the same amount of games to play every year. I know Germany has more snow than Spain and La Liga, but Italy in some areas get a lot too? France in certain areas too i don't know im pretty noob at Geography Winter break still happens in each league just means you have to push games in, like now La Liga is going pretty heavy on games to catch up. Premiership is ahead in games played with 31 games played with others catching up in midweek now. Serie A sat on 29 games with midweek games going on this week i believe and La Liga is playing its 30th games this midweek too. So i guess Germany has a pretty big advantage in freshness in most competitions with playing 27 games after midweek fixtures and only having to play 34 xD Oh well all fun xD
The weather is not really that big of an argument.
The main reason is to protect the german second league from a drain of attractive clubs. Right now it is the highest "second" league in terms of average stadium viewers with
German "2. Bundesliga" 17.506
for perspective:
Championship 16.423
Süper Lig 12.899
(Russian) Premier Liga 11.885
Also sport in germany is relative "socialised" which means that winter sports like skiing or Handball are lobbying a lot to keep the football schedule out of the way. And it is to line it up with the lower leagues that dont have the equipment to play in december / january.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Fair enough all good reasons to me xD
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On March 27 2014 03:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough all good reasons to me xD
Can you stop using the xD all the time, god I hate that smiley.
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On March 27 2014 03:57 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 03:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough all good reasons to me xD Can you stop using the xD all the time, god I hate that smiley.
xD
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Sportsnet supposed to be showing liverpool vs sunderland on the main channels, is instead showing pre-season baseball in a stadium smaller than the mickey mouse stadium in my small town. 
Fuck the toronto blue jays honestly so much coverage in our media and nobody cares... give us the football!
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haha "If Arsenal were an energy company" xD
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Wow Liverpool really annoy me ;_;
Carragher also pissing me off.
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On March 27 2014 03:57 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2014 03:53 Pandemona wrote:
Fair enough all good reasons to me xD Can you stop using the xD all the time, god I hate that smiley.
Oh see you shouldnt have said that
xD
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Netherlands13554 Posts
Oh man I always used to hate it when the Hispanic Starcraft community always went like YAYAYAYAYA xDDDD
Drove me nuts haha.
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