But then it is actually a really big change. Basically, if the rules of football were created today, having time punishment rather than the yellow red cards would be a no-brainer I think. What we have just isn't a good system, question if whether it's so broken it needs fixing.
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
But then it is actually a really big change. Basically, if the rules of football were created today, having time punishment rather than the yellow red cards would be a no-brainer I think. What we have just isn't a good system, question if whether it's so broken it needs fixing. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Buried in Jeffrey Carlisle's story on ESPN about FC Dallas focusing on Guillermo Barros Schelotto for their vacant head coaching position is a nugget Seattle Sounders fans should take some interest in: assistant coach Brian Schmetzer is among those who have already interviewed for the position. This shouldn't necessarily come as a surprise, as Schmetzer is among the most qualified assistants in the league. Not only has he been a key component on Sigi Schmid's staff -- handling much of the preparation for upcoming opponents -- but he was also among the USL's most successful coaches before making the move with the Sounders to MLS. It was also confirmed that Schmetzer interviewed for the Montreal Impact job before the 2012 season, a position that ultimately went to Jesse Marsch. Similar to the situation with the Impact -- where Schmetzer knows Sporting Director Nick De Santis -- it appears personal connections may be playing a part in Dallas' interest as well. One of Schmetzer's first assistant coaching jobs was with the Seattle SeaDogs of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, working under current Dallas Technical Director Fernando Clavijo. Source | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
If there is one thing I horribly dislike in football is the unpunished tactical foul. You destroy a good chance of the opposition's team and go out of it almost unpunished (wow a yellow card lol). It would also decrease the amount of dangerous fouls I am sure. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 05 2013 07:06 Liquid`Drone wrote: Watching liverpool-norwich highlights, I have a hard time thinking of any examples ever where anyone scored 4 that beautiful goals, or even 3 goals as beautiful as 1-3-4. and then he also had an assist. The third goal is gonna be contender for PL goal of the season, the finishing is extraordinary. Ive said this before and I will say it again, For all his faults and they are undeniable, you cannot be a football fan and not love Suarez. On December 06 2013 10:42 sharkie wrote: That's the best thing to have ever come out of Platini's mouth. If there is one thing I horribly dislike in football is the unpunished tactical foul. You destroy a good chance of the opposition's team and go out of it almost unpunished (wow a yellow card lol). It would also decrease the amount of dangerous fouls I am sure. Well unless its a drastic time punishment, a player will still take a few minutes of penalty time over a promising move when its still high up the pitch, so its effectiveness will be pretty variable. Would be interesting to see a well thought out practical application though.. Wouldnt say its a no brainer. Regardless professional fouls is a part of the game in a way, somewhat unsavory but its not a sport for fairies is it.. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
First, football is a sport were the clock never stops, measuring the exact length of the penalty could be hard. Second and more importantly it could create the same problem as the "sudden death" golden goal thing that was popular in the late 90/early 00. The idea was that it makes the overtime more exciting but it did the opposite teams were so concerned about loosing on a counter attack that they played super defensive which lead to boring overtimes. If you are in danger to get off the field in every 50/50 ball duel you are way more carful. It would also overly favor ball possession teams like Barca, Spain or Bayern that doesn´t have that much defensive fouls because of their tactical system. Also there would be problems to fix like Goalkeepers(sending them off the field for 10 minutes could be a bit harsh ), penalties that goes longer than the game and the fact that everyone would "die from pain" on every contact because it benefits your team more.Don´t forget yellow cards are not a "punishment". They are originally designed as a warning, to protect the players and to make it clear for everyone where the limits of the referee are in terms of contact. Thats why it is a card in a signal color that everyone can see instead of a talk to the player. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
That´s constant cornerhugging and goalkeepers being slow with their goalkicks. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
From the way they handle proceedings to how long it takes them to implement useful things (Goal Line technology) all just makes me think it must be corrupt due to the way it is going. How on earth Platini and Blatter are still in charge of their respective federations is beyond me, like WAYYY beyond me. | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
The only way to balance it back in this case would be perhaps to give the managers an option to temporarily sub one player and bolster the backlines. But then, aside from further disturbance in the game flow, it would totally favor rich clubs that can afford to have 4 or 5 quality centre-backs on a payroll just to fill up the in-game holes. | ||
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Fjodorov
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
he is against simple changes like goal-line technology, but he proposes drastic changes like time penalties and abolishing the concept of host nations for Euro Cups. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On December 06 2013 21:25 Maenander wrote: I don't understand Platini: he is against simple changes like goal-line technology, but he proposes drastic changes like time penalties and abolishing the concept of host nations for Euro Cups. Yeah, totally agree. Guy is a fucking idiot imo. I use strong words like these for people who really are out of touch with the reality of where football is at. For me there are 2 issues that need addressing across the world game; 1. Goal Line Technology, for me this needs to be in every game for as cheap as possible, or atleast in every stadium at the top leagues. Defiantly in Champions League 2. Diving, for me this should be the biggest effort to stamp it out from FIFA/UEFA. More punishments, a panel from UEFA for champions league games deciding who is getting retrospective punishment etc and bans. FIFA should be pressuring the FAs around the world with it too. That is my only issues with the game. Oh i guess you can say racism, but that seems only a few selective countries where it happens alot | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
On December 06 2013 08:30 Mafe wrote: So I heard Platini doesn't like Blatter, but wants to be his successor, so he tries to make media headlines whenver possible, trying to look "innovative" and present himself as Blatter's opposite. If he wants to stand out, he could to be not completely corrupt. ![]() | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On December 06 2013 17:52 Twisted wrote: Yeah send someone out for 5 minutes, and the team is just going to rely on delay tactics during those 5 minutes. That´s constant cornerhugging and goalkeepers being slow with their goalkicks. Hockey does this kind of thing and it works very well. You see pure defensive play and whatnot and it's still quite exciting. That said, I don't think this is a good idea. There are a number of problems that you guys brought up that are separate issues from this idea, but if you actually just fix those issues, then this idea is useless. We need more punishment for time wasting and more punishment for diving. Fix those two things and a LOT will change within the game; most importantly, it should increase the pace of the game, with less "fouls" to slow down the game and less time-wasting (via slow free kicks and whatnot). Also, more punishment for tactical fouls on a goal-scoring opportunity outside the box. Hockey gives you a penalty shot even if you aren't that close to the opponent's net. I don't necessarily know about giving a PK in soccer (since they are way, way, way easier to make and affect the game more), but there should be more punishment. Yeah, totally agree. Guy is a fucking idiot imo. I use strong words like these for people who really are out of touch with the reality of where football is at. For me there are 2 issues that need addressing across the world game; 1. Goal Line Technology, for me this needs to be in every game for as cheap as possible, or atleast in every stadium at the top leagues. Defiantly in Champions League 2. Diving, for me this should be the biggest effort to stamp it out from FIFA/UEFA. More punishments, a panel from UEFA for champions league games deciding who is getting retrospective punishment etc and bans. FIFA should be pressuring the FAs around the world with it too. That is my only issues with the game. Oh i guess you can say racism, but that seems only a few selective countries where it happens alot Yea, it blows my mind that most of the world is so ok with an organization that is so obviously corrupt and out-of-touch with the sport that they control. | ||
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Azza
China650 Posts
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Ysellian
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), penalties that goes longer than the game and the fact that everyone would "die from pain" on every contact because it benefits your team more.