Yeah i don't see how he did any of that on purpose. He just running trying to weave in and out gets a shoulder barge or runs into defender whatever and then knocks him off ball lol

MagickMan

Australia498 Posts

November 09 2013 17:52 GMT

#7466

He leans into the bump, he puts his body in a position to go down as soon as there is conduct....

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

November 09 2013 17:57 GMT

#7467

He "leans into it" by playing the ball away from the defender. I don't think you've ever played football at a fast pace if you think that this is a dive. Tell me, when you play the ball to the right with the inside of your left foot while running, what direction will your body drift in?

evilfatsh1t

Australia8941 Posts

November 09 2013 18:09 GMT

#7468

that was a dive. the exact kind of dive ashley young likes to make. run into the box at some speed and look for a body to collide into

MagickMan

Australia498 Posts

November 09 2013 18:12 GMT

#7469

Get your Chelsea blinkers off, he's already going down. He is going down regardless of the contact.

Also, Hughton next to go is probably a safe bet now.

ZapRoffo

United States5544 Posts

November 09 2013 18:13 GMT

#7470

On November 10 2013 02:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
He "leans into it" by playing the ball away from the defender. I don't think you've ever played football at a fast pace if you think that this is a dive. Tell me, when you play the ball to the right with the inside of your left foot while running, what direction will your body drift in?

Clearly at the last second Ramires chooses to go for the body and not the ball (he could have made the final movement a touch on the ball), he initiates the contact then falls over pretty easily. In that game situation, it's shady at best.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

November 09 2013 18:19 GMT

#7471

"Clearly"... no. He appears to be "going down" because of the touch with his left foot. Your body drifts outward, the slightest touch is enough to send you to the ground. It's not a foul but it's not a dive either. It's just something that happens in the movement. Accusing someone of diving who had his eyes on the ball the entire time while there's a simple physical explanation is plain dumb

evilfatsh1t

Australia8941 Posts

November 09 2013 18:21 GMT

#7472

when there are 2 bodies literally right next to you, it doesnt matter where youre looking, you will notice them. ramires knew 2 defenders were closing in on him so he decides to run into a defender and fall

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

November 09 2013 18:23 GMT

#7473

Look at the last step Ramires makes. That's all it takes to explain this. He takes a leap forward to get a touch with the inside of his foot and in that moment is completely off balance. He couldn't even run into anyone if he wanted to, he has no control over his body in that split second. His right foot follows along to keep him in balance and there's no step after this because he collides with the defender.

ZeroChrome

Canada1001 Posts

November 09 2013 18:31 GMT

#7474

Ramires drags his right foot behind him as he takes that last step. It was a dive.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

November 09 2013 18:33 GMT

#7475

What. It's running movement. If he doesn't do that he falls over because he's off balance.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8941 Posts

November 09 2013 18:33 GMT

#7476

he made a touch with his left foot to move the ball towards goal, but his body keeps going left into the defender.

ZeroChrome

Canada1001 Posts

November 09 2013 18:34 GMT

#7477

On November 10 2013 03:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What. It's running movement. If he doesn't do that he falls over because he's off balance.

Dragging your toe along the ground isnt a running movement.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

November 09 2013 18:34 GMT

#7478

On November 10 2013 03:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
he made a touch with his left foot to move the ball towards goal, but his body keeps going left into the defender.

I explained it above. It's physics. His body drifts outward because of the touch he takes. This is going to happen every single time you make a touch with the inside of your foot while running.

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

November 09 2013 18:36 GMT

#7479

On November 10 2013 03:34 ZeroChrome wrote:

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Dragging your toe along the ground isnt a running movement.

Except he doesn't do that on purpose. His left foot goes inward because of the touch he takes, his body drifts outward and the right foot drags along awkwardly because his left foot is further inside than during a normal running step. Please make a running step like that and tell me what your right foot did.