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PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
October 28 2013 20:56 GMT
#7001
Crazy to think we had Thuram / Sagnol / Candela / Lizarazu and Abidal in such a short period of time
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 21:01:26
October 28 2013 21:01 GMT
#7002
On October 29 2013 05:43 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 05:42 Ysellian wrote:
Uhm guys, I said last decade. Apart from Abidal, who never achieved the consistency of Ashley Cole, none of those guy's heights were during 2003~2013.


Well Maldini kinda sorta falls in there. But there has been a bit of a dirth in terms of fullbacks in general the last decade, everyone has something glaring that lets them fall short, so in that respect there isnt much competation for Ashley Cole.

Well Maldini slightly, but I'm not sure if I would rate him better than Ashley Cole during that stage of his career. It's true that Ashley Cole hasn't had the same competition as Maldini has had with Lizarazu and Roberto Carlos, but Ashley Cole is still a remarkable player.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
October 28 2013 21:04 GMT
#7003
Lizarazu was really really good to the last day of his career and won everything you can win as a football player.

I am surprised that there is no one making a try on David Alaba. 22, CL winner, makes all the important games with Bayern... and is one of the best left CB in Europe.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 28 2013 21:13 GMT
#7004
Alaba has a long and glorious road ahead of him but he's not there just yet. I believe he's got the potential to be one of the absolute best of all time though.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18723 Posts
October 28 2013 21:21 GMT
#7005
On October 29 2013 06:04 USvBleakill wrote:
Lizarazu was really really good to the last day of his career and won everything you can win as a football player.

I am surprised that there is no one making a try on David Alaba. 22, CL winner, makes all the important games with Bayern... and is one of the best left CB in Europe.


Alaba doesn't want to play as left back, so its hard to count him in!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
October 28 2013 21:44 GMT
#7006
lahm best left back whenever he played left back
other than that ashley cole best left back of the last decade. carlos better before, though.

arguably the only english player to be top 3 worldwide in his position at any point of the past decade also, maaybe gerrard or rooney during some peak coinciding with other players not peaking.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 28 2013 22:06 GMT
#7007
Yeah id agree with that xD
Of our generation anyway. Think Banks was best keeper in the world of his generation bar none xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 28 2013 23:18 GMT
#7008
Scholes, though he played out of position for England, and maybe Ferdinand ten years ago, hard to remember though.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 05:32:22
October 29 2013 05:31 GMT
#7009
Club Atlas being sold according to some bloggers/sources. 124 million in debt.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 06:25:50
October 29 2013 06:24 GMT
#7010
FIFA Ballon d'Or 23-Man Shortlist Announced:

Gareth Bale (Wales), Edinson Cavani (Uruguay), Radamel Falcao (Colombia), Eden Hazard (Belgium), Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Robert Lewandowski (Poland), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Thomas Müller (Germany), Manuel Neuer (Germany), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Franck Ribéry (France), Arjen Robben (Netherlands), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany), Luis Suárez (Uruguay), Thiago Silva (Brazil), Yaya Touré (Côte d’Ivoire), Robin Van Persie (Netherlands), Xavi (Spain)

FIFA World Coach of the Year Shortlist:

Carlo Ancelotti (Italy/Paris Saint-Germain FC/Real Madrid CF), Rafael Benítez (Spain/Chelsea FC/SSC Napoli), Antonio Conte (Italy/Juventus), Vicente Del Bosque (Spain/Spain national team), Sir Alex Ferguson (Scotland/Manchester United FC former coach), Jupp Heynckes (Germany/FC Bayern München former coach), Jürgen Klopp (Germany/Borussia Dortmund), José Mourinho (Portugal/Real Madrid CF/Chelsea FC), Luiz Felipe Scolari (Brazil/Brazil national team), Arsène Wenger (France/Arsenal FC)

Final three-man shortlists to be announced early December

Winners to be revealed 13 January 2014
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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
October 29 2013 07:38 GMT
#7011
On October 29 2013 15:24 Ferrose wrote:
FIFA Ballon d'Or 23-Man Shortlist Announced:

Gareth Bale (Wales), Edinson Cavani (Uruguay), Radamel Falcao (Colombia), Eden Hazard (Belgium), Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Philipp Lahm (Germany), Robert Lewandowski (Poland), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Thomas Müller (Germany), Manuel Neuer (Germany), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Franck Ribéry (France), Arjen Robben (Netherlands), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany), Luis Suárez (Uruguay), Thiago Silva (Brazil), Yaya Touré (Côte d’Ivoire), Robin Van Persie (Netherlands), Xavi (Spain)

FIFA World Coach of the Year Shortlist:

Carlo Ancelotti (Italy/Paris Saint-Germain FC/Real Madrid CF), Rafael Benítez (Spain/Chelsea FC/SSC Napoli), Antonio Conte (Italy/Juventus), Vicente Del Bosque (Spain/Spain national team), Sir Alex Ferguson (Scotland/Manchester United FC former coach), Jupp Heynckes (Germany/FC Bayern München former coach), Jürgen Klopp (Germany/Borussia Dortmund), José Mourinho (Portugal/Real Madrid CF/Chelsea FC), Luiz Felipe Scolari (Brazil/Brazil national team), Arsène Wenger (France/Arsenal FC)

Final three-man shortlists to be announced early December

Winners to be revealed 13 January 2014



Again questionable selection. Who does this list?

At the players i am missing Javi Martinez badly. That guy is such a beast and played a huge role in Bayerns CL run. Especially vs. Barca, he destroyed the midfield in this 2 games.
Also Sergio Busquetes, Mats Hummels and Marco Reus could be on the list too.

This list is just too "offense" orientated. On the highest level the game is dominated in the defensive/zentral midfield or in counter attack situations. I am counting only 4 Zentral Midfielders (Pirlo, Schweinsteiger, Toure, Xavi).


On the coaches, is selecting Antonie Conte not "wrong"? I mean this guy was suspended for fixing games, thats not a really good ideal.
Also what is Del Bosque doing on the list? 2013 was no big national tournament. The only "real" games he had was the qualification and qualifying with Spain isn´t that hard, even i could do that.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 08:31:38
October 29 2013 08:29 GMT
#7012
I don't have any respect for Ribery as a person, so if he can be on the list I think Conte can too.

I agree the list is very offense oriented, maybe some of the "non-greatest" strikers could be dropped?

Who do you guys think will make the shortlist?
I think Messi, Ronaldo and Ribery. Hoping for Ibrahimovic in top three though, since he can definitely be one of the most spectacular players to play the sport.

Edit: Missed a couple of words
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 08:34:54
October 29 2013 08:34 GMT
#7013
Coach shortlist is kinda funny xD
I'd guess that is the easier one to call.

Jupp Heynckes or Sir Alex Ferguson will win the award with the other coming 2nd

Then the player award will be Ronaldo/Messi/Ribery in any order you can think of as FIFA are unpredictable.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 08:46:24
October 29 2013 08:44 GMT
#7014
Just one Dortmund player, I am disappointed. At least Reus should have made the cut (14goals 11 assists Bundesliga, 4/4 Champions League + CL final).

On October 29 2013 17:34 Pandemona wrote:
Jupp Heynckes or Sir Alex Ferguson will win the award with the other coming 2nd

Then the player award will be Ronaldo/Messi/Ribery in any order you can think of as FIFA are unpredictable.


^ This, but I would say it will be Heynckes because of the triple and Bundesliga record.
But does it djent?
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
October 29 2013 08:46 GMT
#7015
My head says Phillipp Lahm, he is insanely consistant in club and national team, a leader, makes almost no mistakes and had a great season without injuries. Also he plays fantastic this season, look at the mancity game, he plays a position he never played in his entire career until this season and is world class instantly.

Realistically it will come down to Ribery/Messi/Ronaldo with a chance of 40% Ribery 40% Messi and 20% Ronaldo. Maybe Ribery is the favorite because electing Messi 5 times is kinda boring.

On the coaches it just has to be Jupp Heynckes, dominated his league, 7-0ed barca and set multiple records.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 29 2013 08:47 GMT
#7016
Heh "only" 5 guys different than my list xD Big surprises for me are Hazard and Pirlo getting in, while Götze, Busquets or Hummels are out. Also no second goalie, damn.
Revolutionist fan
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18723 Posts
October 29 2013 08:50 GMT
#7017
Neuer nominated, Weidenfeller not...

It's all about stardom..
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 29 2013 08:54 GMT
#7018
Yeah i know Jupp Heynckes got records, but don't forget Sir Alex just like him has retired after a very long stint as being a top world class manager. You don't know whether FIFA might just feel he will win this time because of that. They both have retired, with Fergie being at the same club winning in England for fun all that time. You can't predict FIFA to discard that, so i think it will be close between Jupp Heynckes and Sir Alex
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
October 29 2013 08:56 GMT
#7019
My top 3 :

1- Lahm
2- Messi
3- Schweinsteiger

I could also put Müller or Ribery, but I think Lahm is the best player of this year. Messi just because of his regularity in awesomeness but he just won la Liga and wasn't there for the big games.

Coach, definitely Klopp. Close second Heynckes and 3rd Benitez for his performance in Chelsea even though he was hated by the fans and his start with Napoli.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18723 Posts
October 29 2013 08:58 GMT
#7020
On October 29 2013 17:56 WillyWanker wrote:
My top 3 :

1- Lahm
2- Messi
3- Schweinsteiger

I could also put Müller or Ribery, but I think Lahm is the best player of this year. Messi just because of his regularity in awesomeness but he just won la Liga and wasn't there for the big games.

Coach, definitely Klopp. Close second Heynckes and 3rd Benitez for his performance in Chelsea even though he was hated by the fans and his start with Napoli.


How can you put Messi above Ribery in this year without bias? Ribery has decided tons of games just like Messi did.
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